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Down 10 going into the 4th. Will take a big effort to get this win. 

Spurs are 15 for 28 from 3. 

Middleton 1 for 7 from 3 is really the difference between a close game and a 10 point deficit. 

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Bud waves the white flag with 4 minutes left. 

Spurs are 17 for 32 from 3. 

It's a road loss in January, not a big deal in and of itself. The concern is the Spurs coaching staff had a back to back with the Bucks and came up with a plan that really controlled the Bucks on both ends. 

The Bucks have 6 losses. In those losses, Giannis is 3 for 31 from 3 (9.6%). 

He's 56 for 150 in the other games (37%)

Spurs are 19 for 35 from 3 tonight. The 6 loses are the following 3 point shooting from the opponent. 

Spurs 19 for 35

Sixers 21 for 44

Mavs 16 for 41

Jazz 15 for 36

Celtics 17 for 41

Heat 16 for 44

So, in our losses, opponents are 104 for 241 from downtown. That’s over 43%. 

Two ways of looking at that. Other teams have to shoot lights out from 3-pt range to have a realistic chance to consistently beat the Bucks, or, we really need to improve our perimeter defense.

The real question isn't whether the Bucks are going to eventually lose some games because they give up a lot of 3s. It's going to happen that teams will get hot in a single game (Spurs and Sixers). The question will be whether someone goes Fred Van Vliet on them in the playoffs again over a multi-game span and they lose 4 of 7. 

The Bucks get offense from defense- and when the other team is hitting and they are not, it seems to snowball. That’s the part that needs to change, and that’s the threat. Budenholzer did not make adjustments in this game- he admitted afterward- and this has to be the concern going forward. 

This is my biggest issue with Middleton, who’s getting hammered once again in the Twitterworld: he is not a smart offensive player. He’s a catch and shoot guy with some post up game, but he thinks that because he’s the “anointed” #2 he can take a rebound, dribble down the floor, and take the first fucking look he sees. A VAST majority of the time it’s a miss, and the ball is quickly off in transition. We’ve seen this from Bledsoe as well- incidentally a lot less this year- and the results are similar. I am all for pace, but pace doesn’t mean jacking up the first look, and Middleton has to lead the team in times where he has shot the ball without a single pass. 

This offense is at its best penetrating and rotating. More movement creates better looks. Want to see how to run offense? Watch what the Spurs did for a few stretches in this game. Wide open look after wide open look. 

I listened to the game.  Back to back games against a well coached team like the Spurs are a recipe for disaster.  The Bucks need to work on their half court sets and continue to be able to alter their game plan if need be.  All that being said, we are very spoiled and this just was not our night.  The year is a grind...Celts lost to the Wizards and Philly hung on to not lose their fifth in a row.  We will be fine.  I am going to see the next two games, @Golden State and @ Sacramento. 

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On paper, Middleton is playing at an all-star level. He's shooting 48%/29/90 and has career highs if you look at per 36 minute levels in points and rebounds and has a career high in advanced metrics (PER). I think part of the problem is that when Giannis sits and the offense goes through him, when he misses or has a turnover it always seems to end up as an open 3 or layup on the other end. 

If he does the same thing with Giannis on the floor that doesn't happen as often on the other end because Giannis is on the floor in transition defense. 

If you look at almost every single one of their losses there are two obvious themes that come to mind 

1) their opponent shot the lights out from 3 point range 

2) their opponent featured a very good head coach 

Bucks will be fine 

Tschmack posted:

If you look at almost every single one of their losses there are two obvious themes that come to mind 

1) their opponent shot the lights out from 3 point range 

2) their opponent featured a very good head coach 

Bucks will be fine 

That's why Brad Stevens and Spoelstra are of more concern than Brett Brown. 

MichiganPacker2 posted:

That's why Brad Stevens and Spoelstra are of more concern than Brett Brown.

On this note the only coach in the West that is a threat is Doc. But I don’t think the Clippers have the personnel to pull it off- and everyone will learn first hand that Leonard actually can’t shut down Giannis one on one- and they don’t have the interior horses that Toronto had. Their best defenders are wing defenders, and that’s not going to cut it. 

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