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Originally Posted by PackLandVA:

Today's game doesn't really change my opinion of anything. How they respond next week might.

The other teams get to see the game tape and see a primer on how to slow down the GB passing game.  But unless they have a front seven as stout as Buffalo, it's probably a moot point.

Timmy!  In terms of the passing game, I'd rank the lack of success  due to, in order:  Rodgers played poorly, Redeiving Corp played poorly, Bufflao DBs played well and were able to be physical without any holding/PI calls (no excuse, though)

Originally Posted by PackLandVA:

Today's game doesn't really change my opinion of anything. How they respond next week might.

WEre not an elite "team"

 

we have the best QB in the game.

When hes on and the rest of the team can hold things together were tough to beat.

 

We have a good running back, 2 good receivers and a few above average backs on D.

good kickers, awful ST.

 

So elite isnt the word.

Were very good, fun to watch. When you have a QB like we do, you can win championships.

Im just concerned we dont have enough of a supporting cast to win games if the passing game isnt clicking.

Seattle can beat you on offense and/or defense.

 

Seahawks are gonna be tough to beat, especially the way this teams played on the road

@Seattle, @ Detroit, @New Orleans, @ Buffalo - ugly

 

 The offense is really missing a competent tight end.

The defense is missing an inside prescence.

Maybe with a healthy Finley and Raji in there, this team is very very good

 

 

 

Originally Posted by WolfPack:
 

Seattle can beat you on offense and/or defense.

 

 

Uh, Seattle's scored over 20 points one time in the last five games.  They've busted over 30 two times this season.    Their offense isn't going to beat anybody, they need their defense to keep the other team down so that 14-20 points gets it done.

Originally Posted by SanDiegoPackFan:

Just watching, it seemed like the refs allowed the Bills' DB's to hold and push.  I didn't see a lot of "illegal contact" calls against them.

 

We better get accustomed to that, gonna see it vs Detroit and Sea.

All this talk about Seattle.....pffffffft.

First things first.....beat Tampa then beat the Lions.

You'll see we will be the #2 seed. Worry about ourselves rather than what might or might not happen vs. A potential matchup with Seattle.
Originally Posted by slowmo:
Originally Posted by WolfPack:
 

Seattle can beat you on offense and/or defense.

 

 

Uh, Seattle's scored over 20 points one time in the last five games.  They've busted over 30 two times this season.    Their offense isn't going to beat anybody.....

ok, fair enough. Seattle can beat us on offense  

 

elite -adj- a group that is superior to the rest in terms of ability or qualities.

 

If we are hosting the trophy  in February, the Packers collectively are an elite team

 

If there is an elite tier of teams, then yes we are one of a select few that includes Seattle,New England,Denver and you could make an argument for another team or two

 

of course its going to fluctuate week to week, you are generally viewed as being as good as your last game

Packers need to demonstrate they can get better offensive production against the quality defenses before I can consider them elite. Look at what they did against Detroit, Seattle and Buffalo and that's not elite.

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