Colin Kaerpernick II

Maybe it's just me but I could give two shits about an average QB workout.  It's like hyping the workouts of some DTs they just brought in. 

Call me kooky....

I was actually thinking about the Packers using Kaepernick the same way the Saints use Taysom Hill

I assume he still fancies himself a starter....if he even wants to play. 

I think this entire process is a joke. There are many former NFL players out of work.  When is Nick Perry's organized tryout?

Boris posted:

Call me kooky....

I was actually thinking about the Packers using Kaepernick the same way the Saints use Taysom Hill

If he is in football shape and if he wants to play in any capacity I'd give it a whirl.

Cant have too many weapons.

It’s a good thought, but unless he’s going to be an elite player right off the bat with the ball in his hands you’re taking the ball out of the hands of Rodgers, Jones, and Adams. Hill does a lot more than trick plays, so unless CK can return kicks, block, AND run the wildcat I don’t think we will get the same use out of him. If he can return kicks successfully than maybe you get some Josh Cribbs-esque use out of him, otherwise he’s a waste of a roster spot in GB.

There’s a place for him in the NFL on a roster. At the rate Pittsburgh is going through QBs they might need him. Seeing him with Bruce Arians might be fun. They’re going to need a QB.

Things that make you go hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

My workout is next week.  Tune in.

I watch @Henry workout....nobody gives a shit

Lotsa juxtaposition-ing going on.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story...moved-now-open-media

Christ almighty -- Just let the guy workout & show what he has, if anything, left

Grave Digger posted:

It’s a good thought, but unless he’s going to be an elite player right off the bat with the ball in his hands you’re taking the ball out of the hands of Rodgers, Jones, and Adams. Hill does a lot more than trick plays, so unless CK can return kicks, block, AND run the wildcat I don’t think we will get the same use out of him. If he can return kicks successfully than maybe you get some Josh Cribbs-esque use out of him, otherwise he’s a waste of a roster spot in GB.

There’s a place for him in the NFL on a roster. At the rate Pittsburgh is going through QBs they might need him. Seeing him with Bruce Arians might be fun. They’re going to need a QB.

I don't think anyone will bring him in and use him like Taysom Hill. 

He's probably best suited for a role where a really good team's backup is not ready to step in. Let's say Rodgers got dinged up enough to where he can't play for 2-3 games, but is going to ready to come back for the playoffs. Does Kaepernik give you a better chance to win a game in that scenario than Tim Boyle? If he shows that he hasn't declined physically in the workout I think the answer is probably yes. If you are a team like NO and have Bridgewater as a backup you aren't going to be interested. 

Of course, Brett Hundley sucked in 9 starts (and most of the game where Rodgers got hurt in 2017) and in those games the Packers went 3-7. There is no question in my mind that Kaepernik would have given them a better chance to win that year and get them into the playoffs until Rodgers could return. 

If this was all for show I doubt 25 teams would have showed up. 

I didn't realize he was 32 now. Those athletic skills are soon going to be on the decline. 

Colin Cowherd probably would have been an upgrade over Hundley in 2017.

So a couple years younger than Taysom Hill?

Colin was on a mission?

Henry posted:

So a couple years younger than Taysom Hill?

I thought Hill was a couple years from qualifying for SS benefits. 

He’s in my over 55 BYU alumni softball league.

Blair Kiel posted:

He’s in my over 55 BYU alumni softball league.

He could King and Court it

Workout over -- LOL

https://www.tmz.com/2019/11/16...er-dispute-with-nfl/

I guess SOME scouts (Why were the Chiefs there?? Uh-huh...More than just QB) were there but this "workout" was NOT NFL "sponsored"??

Good lord.....guess they can't just give the guy a shot without everyone trying to get the "upper hand" 

After today’s workout in Atlanta, an NFL executive at Colin Kaepernick’s throwing session said his arm talent is “elite” and is the same as when he came out of college. He said that Kaepernick threw the ball well.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) November 16, 2019

Not understanding all the commotion about this.  He was a below par QB his last couple of years in league and was replaced as the starter.  I still remember Clay Matthews sacking him and taunting "you ain't Russell Wilson bro."  Add the fact he's been out of the league a couple of years, and probably lost some spring in his legs, I can't see him being effective. 

What a clown show.

Blair Kiel posted:

He’s in my over 55 BYU alumni softball league.

I know a softball player who is over 70 years old.  He is just getting started.  

I watched some senior softball recently at the Huntsman World Senior Games which is a big deal here in St.George UT. 

in the 65-74 age group, those boys were still jacking the ball pretty damn well. The tip-off on aging is the wheels—they just don’t work so well.

In the 75-85 group, you really could see the loss of upper body strength happen. I still give those dudes credit, they were out there trying.

Stephen A Smith with a hot take on this event. Google it.

RochNyFan posted:

Not understanding all the commotion about this.  He was a below par QB his last couple of years in league and was replaced as the starter.  I still remember Clay Matthews sacking him and taunting "you ain't Russell Wilson bro."  Add the fact he's been out of the league a couple of years, and probably lost some spring in his legs, I can't see him being effective. 

Tell that to Matt Moore.

I watched some of his "workout" on Facebook (of all things) yesterday.
Totally impressed by the 10's of people there. 

I didn't see anything particularly special. He could nail 10-15 yard passes, but not so much on deep balls.

My take is he might be on par with the Ryan Fitzpatricks of the league, but nowhere near the better QBs, not to mention the 'elite' ones.

It was a workout for a backup. 

Meh, it sounded like the Lawyers and the Media over hyped this event. Even Nike was involved. He might could still play but I don’t much care.

Timmy! posted:

Totally impressed by the 10's of people there. 

He'll be with Belichick next year.

So he is who we thought he was?

“Good showing.  Thought he looked like he did when he was last on the field.”

Yeah....no

TouchdownWhitewaterJesus posted:

“Good showing.  Thought he looked like he did when he was last on the field.”

Yeah....no

Did you read the first post on this thread?

Edit: 😉

Blair Kiel posted:

I watched some senior softball recently at the Huntsman World Senior Games which is a big deal here in St.George UT. 

in the 65-74 age group, those boys were still jacking the ball pretty damn well. The tip-off on aging is the wheels—they just don’t work so well.

In the 75-85 group, you really could see the loss of upper body strength happen. I still give those dudes credit, they were out there trying.

The Joseph Smith to Brigham Young pass  connection is scintillating!

Boris posted:

Workout over -- LOL

https://www.tmz.com/2019/11/16...er-dispute-with-nfl/

I guess SOME scouts (Why were the Chiefs there?? Uh-huh...More than just QB) were there but this "workout" was NOT NFL "sponsored"??

Good lord.....guess they can't just give the guy a shot without everyone trying to get the "upper hand" 

After today’s workout in Atlanta, an NFL executive at Colin Kaepernick’s throwing session said his arm talent is “elite” and is the same as when he came out of college. He said that Kaepernick threw the ball well.

— Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) November 16, 2019

Reid is an innovator. I’m sure he wanted to see what CK had left and if there’s an opportunity to use his skill. Just like GB though, I’m not sure there’s a package he runs that makes it worth taking the ball away from Mahomes. If CK has Lamar Jackson/Mike Vick speed then that’s different, but he had mid-4.5 speed when he came out 8 years ago, doubt that level of speed is still there. 

Bridge water was smart, he took a backup role, showed he still has it, might get a starting spot next year.

kapernick should do the same.  Take any job offered, do the job well, prove himself and hope for better the next year.

from what I understand he was offered a back-up role and turned it down a year or two ago.

Taking a “pay your dues” job also shows your commitment to the game/team.

the other worry about Kap is he might be a prima Donna - showing up every week prepared in case the starter gets hurt, working with the young recivers/dB on routes and coverage would go a long way in the eyes of coaches and changing  the leagues perception that it’s “all about him”.

Stephen A. nailed it. Kaep doesn’t want a job, he just wants to make noise. 

Fuck that guy. 

Okay, he made noise.  Move on. 

Stephen A. makes noise just by saying "hello".  The guy cannot utter a sentence without yelling it.

The Lions or Bears could use him today.

PackLandVA posted:

Stephen A. makes noise just by saying "hello".  The guy cannot utter a sentence without yelling it.

But you gotta admit....his vocabulary is a thesaurus. I think he's fun.

Find Caliendo doing Stephen A. It's excellent 👍

Stephen A. is loud... but I like that dude.  Smart guy.

His kid must have been sleeping or something when he made that video. He was almost whispering. 

CK would look good in purple. 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rz-yulRIsw

Boris posted:

PackLandVA posted:

Stephen A. makes noise just by saying "hello".  The guy cannot utter a sentence without yelling it.

But you gotta admit....his vocabulary is a thesaurus.

So if his vocabulary is only made up of words that mean other words, does he have no vocabulary at all?

-DR. BOB

Now that the "workout" is over....let's open up the discussion a little bit.

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2019/11/max-kellerman-espn-colin-kaepernick-stephen-a-smith-response-first-take

Some good stuff from both Stephen A & Max. Google the Stephen A stuff. It's powerful. 

Kaep should have been a Packer in 2017, when Rodgers went out in week 6.  He may no be good enough to be a starter but you can't tell me he wasn't an upgrade from Brett Hundley.  

Andrew Brandt was on top of this and put it pretty well, saying the timing of all this made it clear it was a sham.  Media access, receivers, filming, and liability waivers should have been hammered out weeks in advance.  The fact it wasn't just shows that the NFL didn't think this through whatsoever. 

Also read that the president of the Georgia bar association said that no competent lawyer ever would have let Kaep sign the NFL's waiver.  This just makes the NFL look like idiots.  Maybe they did this to try and get some heat off Al Riveron?