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worst case in ANY 27 year old!!!!!! Yup...this will diminish the young ones playing football.....JMHO.
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Never change Goldie...never change...
REALLY.?? so how do I find these topics when I post stuff so late???
Well...it was all of 3 topics down from your topic post.
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Ok, ok, I hate this set up.....I don't know where to look for previous topics, or for my previous posts. Sorry.....just hard for me to find topics I should see and not repeat. So sorry.
That could be a huge case. Really hard to prove any particular action is the direct result of it. And wasn't he a banger before he ever got into the nfl?
Difficult to prove the NFL did it and not college ball, or even high school. It seems that the effect is cumulative. So how do you separate them?
Unless they find a way to better protect players, CTE will be the end of football.
I am the biggest football fan on earth and I honestly believe that we are starting to see the end of football and it will probably happen maybe in our lifetimes. And honestly I am kind of amazed that a movement hasn't gained more strength to ban it.
One area that I think is actually hurting players is basically having no contact in practice. Anyone who has played the game at any level knows that there is a certain amount of hitting that you need to do for technique especially with tackling and how you use your head. I know that is NOT a popular way of thinking but just a thought.
One of the root problems with the sport is no matter how "safe" you teach blocking and tackling, people are going to hit their head. Hard. Maybe not as much but the real core of the game is contact and aggression and even if your head isn't contacted you can get it jostled around hard enough, over and over, to cause some level of cte. This doesn't happen to everyone, maybe not even the majority of players. But cte will not go away unless you remove contact almost entirely. Or somebody invents a magic helmet.
Football as we know it will go away. To those stuck on the 70's it already has. Depends if what it has to evolve into to survive is still appealing enough to its fans to keep throwing eyes and $ at it.
My son dove in high school and college. Qualified for nationals. Got a concussion once when his head hit the water at a bad angle. Check out the stats for college athlete concussions. Surprising numbers in soccer, basketball and even girls volleyball.
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There's no doubt that CTE can affect lives in a negative way, but I am 99.99999% sure that Aaron Hernandez would have been a psychopath even if he had no concussions. This was a guy who was going downhill long before he entered the NFL. His reaction to how he handled life after his father passed away was 10 million times more important to affecting his future than football and CTE ever was.
What's next, is O.J. Simpson going to come out with a book and say that "the real killer" probably had CTE when that unidentified suspect killed his ex-wife and Ron Goldman?
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Pretty cool theory and design.
And peanuts compared to legal costs currently and in the future.
Recently had a chance to take a look at a signed Aaron Rodgers game worn helmet and was shocked just how little padding and protection it offered to the melon.
The damn thing seemed pretty heavy as well - probably 5 pounds.
The new helmet is a pretty cool idea, but I think someone was wearing one in the first game of the year and still got a concussion. But if it can help prevent many of them, I'm all for it. I think college may be a step ahead with their targeting rule, although it's unevenly applied. But I think in the long run the rule will help guys lower their aim and that will make it's way to the NFL.
And I thought it would be pure greed that would bring the NFL down. Like putting 8 teams in LA and hope to sell out every game. Shows what I know .........
Not acknowledging nor taking steps to address cte in a $$ way may be considered a form of greed.
YATittle posted:My son dove in high school and college. Qualified for nationals. Got a concussion once when his head hit the water at a bad angle. Check out the stats for college athlete concussions. Surprising numbers in soccer, basketball and even girls volleyball.
It's not only the big hits. It's the dozens and dozens of subconcussive hits.
In the latest study, 3 of 14 players who stopped playing after high school had CTE. If someone created a new sport that no one had ever played before and wanted to get it approved with that kind of data on risk (20% chance of a serious problem within a couple of decades) any sane administrator would stop any discussion about starting this sport immediately. For perspective, that's higher than the risk of developing lung cancer from smoking (although there are many other health problems associated with smoking).
If you look at any of this objectively, you say that all high schools should stop their football programs. You wouldn't have a high school boxing team, why should you have a football team? If kids want to play football, it should be on a club team, not in their public high school. The problem is that Friday night football games are the biggest events in many small towns in America. College football games are the biggest events many people attend while going to college. We all grew up watching NFL games every Sunday with our families. I never played organized football (cross country for me in the fall), but man it was fun playing it on the sandlot during recess as a kid.
I'm a biomedical researcher. I feel very guilty about the fact that I still love watching the Packers and waiting for the games is one of the biggest non-family things I look forward to outside of work. I just cringe at the fact that we'll likely be watching some of our favorite players suffering from neurological problems that were almost certainly due to the fact they played football.
Uh oh. Study finds concussions not causing CTE
Repeated non-concussive hits may be culprit.
Same thing mentioned in the movie Concussion.
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There has been speculation to that effect for a while but this is reportedly a very thorough study.
The Heckler posted:with tackling and how you use your head.
I understand what you were saying, but you don't use your head in proper tackling. Head up, see what you hit and hit what you see. Ear hole on the ribs.
How about helmets that are padded on the outside and inside? There must be a good reason this isn't happening yet.
I wonder what the league and individual teams pay for insurance...it must be huge.
I like the idea of no tackling before age 14. I'm not necessarily sure it will do tons of good, but at least there's no damage done during some of those developmental years.
El-Ka-Bong posted:How about helmets that are padded on the outside and inside? There must be a good reason this isn't happening yet.
Yes. They say it's because fans want to hear the crack of helmets colliding. I believe it has been shown that padding inside and out better protects the brain, but there is no sound with outside padding. So... it's all about money.
DH13 posted:Uh oh. Study finds concussions not causing CTE
Repeated non-concussive hits may be culprit.
And yet they ignore heredity. My mother in law had CTE symptoms before she was 60. She passed away due to cancer at the age of 64 and by then she had trouble with knowing which day of the week it was - or remembering what she did earlier that day. My wife said one of her parents (I don't remember which - imagine that) had it bad at an early age. Of her 4 sons (my brothers-in-laws), the two older are well on their way and can't remember things from day to day - in fact they are both retired before 60 with a medical disability designation so they can get social security. And the younger two are now showing signs according to their wives. Only the second oldest son played football in HS. He turned down an offer to play football at Northwestern in the big 10. My wife (who is significantly passed 60) and her sister (who is not) are doing ok so far.
I'm not sure the study intended to cast that broad of a net. It looks like they just wanted to study impact related causes. It seems common at this point that not everyone develops cte no matter how many times they hit their head. It's more about probability. How likely is a person to develope cte if they are playing football and what exactly about the sport is causing it. Most thought it was concussions, now it's looking like repeated non-concussive hits are enough. Not everyone who smokes gets cancer but there are enough statistics that provide a high enough probability to make it a high risk activity.
Wondering when they put padding on the outside of the helmet
When they can make it make the same sound as an unpadded helmet. Mark Kelso of the Bills wore an outer-padded helmet because he had two severe concussions and was told to give up the game. It looked kind of goofy, but it protected himself and other players. You think that today they could have better technology to make it look better and still protect.
Mark Kelso, a safety for the Bills from 1986 to 1993, wore an outer-padded helmet as a starter in four Super Bowls and finished with 30 career NFL interceptions. Many highly drafted, highly paid safeties wish they could say they had a career as good as Kelso did. Steve Wallace, an offensive tackle for the 49ers from 1986 to 1997, wore an outer-padded helmet and made the Pro Bowl. Many highly drafted, highly paid tackles wish they could say they played as well as Wallace did. You can wear an outer-padded helmet and be a very effective football player -- while doing less harm.
Kelso went to outer padding because he'd sustained two severe concussions and been advised to give up football. "The Bills' trainer knew an inventor who had been tinkering with padding," Kelso told me last week. "With padding, I played an additional five seasons, almost 100 more games, and sustained only one concussion, which wasn't a helmet-to-helmet hit -- someone kneed my head. Absolutely the padding made it safer for me and safer for the players I was hitting. You can't use an outer-padded helmet as a weapon. Pound a padded helmet against your own knee; it doesn't hurt. Do that with a standard polycarbonate shell helmet, and you'll howl in pain. If both players were wearing this in a helmet-to-helmet hit, it wouldn't be anywhere near as bad." Linky
I'm going to work on an intra-cranial airbag system. Maybe some kind of injectable that can sense velocity change and instantaneously provide protection. One day it'll be all the rage to keep you from raging.
Refine your idea, BP.
I'd suggest using water instead of air for impact absorption.
Make the 'bag' easily replaceable. The burst threshold can be below concussion limits.
Keep me in mind for a royalty, please!
Antifreeze, not water. Football is cold in the winter.
