Available and suck, still sucks. What if Sherrod was always available to suck, would you all list that as a positive attribute of his and why he should keep the job at RT?
Well, there is an insane amount of porn on the internet.quote:So much cyber masturbating.
Obvious Fedya is obvious
From a Grantland Bill Barnwell article:
"If Peppers plays well and Clay Matthews stays healthy healthier, Green Bay could be a really scary football team. It would have a dominant pass rush combined with the deepest, most talented secondary east of Seattle, especially after using its first-round pick on Alabama safety Ha Ha Clinton-Dix."
Where was that pass rush? Our defense was scary -- awful scary.
..our pass rush was good WHEN we got them in passing downs. Since we couldn't stop the run they were in favorable down / distance situations all night...in addition they were playing with the lead for the majority of the game
With this hapless defense and offensive line and the inept people coaching them I cant see them winning more than six games this season,all against all their weaker opponents on the schedule.maybe its time they really look into their future and start signing free agents because home grown just aint working at all in improving the team.this season is lost because Seattle showed them and the fans just how terrible they are.this message was approved by doubters unlimited of Packerland inc.
I counted four periods. FOUR!!!!
Major props.
What does Cutlers monthly menstrual cycle have to do with any of this???
I know man, seems like all I've been talking about lately is tampon coated hip-boots & periods.
I think I'm going through the change.
fwiw, I saw a lot of crappy football being played this weekend
I sometimes question whether the "stockholder owned" Packer ownership model
has something to do with GM/coaching accountability. Once again, as others have posted,
fans can't really know whats going on behind the scenes, but I wonder how involved M
Murphy is when he see's TT fail to address defensive problems yr after yr, or when the head coach stubbornly hangs on to assistants that can,t coach. Would Jerruh or Dan Snyder
have been less patient
Jones and Snyder are the model we should follow? If that were the case Favre would still be the QB.
If the fans had real control over the team, McCarthy and Thompson would have lasted two games each, and there'd be some serious salary cap violations going on.
WWDSD
Would Jerruh or Dan Snyder
have been less patient
trickle down fandom. with that post i think fan reaction to last week's game has finally bottomed out.
Don't underestimate the power of stupid in this forum.
Wanna bet? We've got six more days of stupidity coming here. By Sunday, all of the players will have been cut except for Rodgers who will have been traded. The entire front office will have been replaced and the coaching staff will be seen picking up litter on the side of the highway.
It's all about accountability.
I'd like to have Cowher as the next HC. If not him, then maybe Dan Quinn or Lovie Smith with Brett Favre and Bill Bellichek as my coordinators.
Man I saw some bad football yesterday. Anything can happen this year. Anything.
Like making adjustments and substitutions? Not the GB way- Leroy Butler.
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
Hungry5:
Jones and Snyder are the model we should follow? If that were the case Favre would still be the QB.
To be fair, the post you are responding to isolates management procedure to the length leash given for the specific case of the Packer's defensive issues, not having anything whatsoever to do with what anyone would have done with Favre.
Originally Posted by Boris:
Man I saw some bad football yesterday. Anything can happen this year. Anything.
Jesus ****
Originally Posted by JJSD:
Wanna bet? We've got six more days of stupidity coming here. By Sunday, all of the players will have been cut except for Rodgers who will have been traded. The entire front office will have been replaced and the coaching staff will be seen picking up litter on the side of the highway.
It's all about accountability.
Yeah, and all this is only about 2 weeks from when we thought the other 31 teams were fighting each other for the players the Packers would cut from their incredibly deep and awesome roster.
The castoff player activity happens nearly every year, but not the coaching staff raiding.
Originally Posted by El-Ka-Bong:
This is my life philosophy.
Defense stats under McCarthy, per NFL.com:
2013 - 25th yards, 24th points
2012 - 11th yards, 11th points
2011 - 32nd yards, 19th points
2010 - 5th yards, 2nd points
2009 - 2nd yards, 7th points
2008 - 20th yards, 22nd points
2007 - 11th yards, 7th points
2006 - 12th points, 26th points
I think it's primarily the coaching.
TT hasn't done them any favors -- that's for sure. He hasn't invested a top pick at ILB since Hawk, hasn't traded up for someone like Mosley or Shazier, hasn't signed a free agent outside of Chillar, and gave away bad contracts to resign our own.
But ultimately it's on the coaching staff to develop and find a tenable solution there after three years...not just keep banging your head against the wall. A few things stand out with the coaching:
1) As many have noted, they haven't coached anyone up. Look at the Seattle MLBs...they aren't high draft choices but they've developed into big time players.
2) Not only haven't they developed anyone, they have actually blocked guys that could be productive. Everyone correctly says Bishop was a true MLB who could play prior to getting hurt. But the Packer coaching staff kept him as a back-up to the point where he was beyond frustrated and wanted out. He only played because of an injury to Barnett and they had no choice but to play him.
3) We see examples of other teams able to leverage the strengths of their defenses and overcome areas of weakness. Look at what the 49ers did yesterday. This is a defense decimated by injury and suspension. They were down 5 preferred starters yesterday - Dorsey at the NT, A. Smith at OLB, Bowman at ILB, and their two starting corners, who are raw enough to begin with. Yet they still completely shut down one of the most talented offenses in the league. When was the last time GB did that? The only teams they shut down are teams with awful QBs. Good QBs eat this team alive - they've done it for years.
Yards is a useless stat. Your D could give up 500 yards per game and it wouldn't matter if they were only giving up 10 points per game. On the flip side your D could only be allowing 200 yards per game, but if they're allowing 30 points per game then you're probably going to lose a lot. Points per game is all that matters and his average is a 14th overall ranking in ppg...that's with essentially 2 rebuilding years ('06 and '08). Wins are the other good statistic for judging coaches and right now he's still 3rd among active coaches in winning % and 7th overall among active coaches in number of wins.
The conclusion I have come to as far as Capers is that I don't necessarily think he's the right coach for McCarthy and Thompson's team philosophy. That's not a 360 in my views of Capers. I think Dom Capers is a DC you can win a SB with, because it has happened, but I don't know that his scheme and the players Thompson/McCarthy like to bring in necessarily match up. I think either Thompson needs to give Capers the players he needs rather than giving him versatile players/projects that need to be molded to succeed in the scheme. What I mean by that is I think rather than giving him an athletic player like Brad Jones and saying "he's an athlete, he has a good attitude and aptitude, make him an OLB or ILB or whatever" (which I kind of think is how it goes) they should give him Karlos Dansby (just an example) and say "here is a true ILB, plug him in and play him". I think Thompson works with Capers, but ultimately he's thinking broader than just defense and beyond this season. Case in point: Carl Bradford. Bradford showed versatility in college and looks like he could contribute on STs but lacks a true position and probably wasn't going to contribute immediately no matter what. Capers may have preferred a guy like Chris Borland maybe because of his background and the fact that he could step in immediately, but ultimately Thompson thinks Bradford and his versatility in the 4th is a better deal than Borland and his skillset in the 3rd. So either Thompson needs to get on board with Capers or they need to find someone who is more in tune, philosophically speaking, with Thompson to run the D. The reason I think they aren't in tune is because they seem to not be on the same page since 2010...the core performers moved on and weren't really replaced with guys you would typically see in a Capers D. Again though, I'm not bashing Dom Capers. I think we can win another SB with him, but I think (JMO also) there is a battle of stubbornness between the two old farts Thompson and Capers and I don't think either will change to fit the other one.
Originally Posted by Rockin' Robin:
hasn't traded up for someone like Mosley or Shazier
Takes two to tango. So we just don't know.
Stupid Face is loyal to a fault and he is stubborn with regards to starting unproven rookies.
Originally Posted by Rockin' Robin:
3) We see examples of other teams able to leverage the strengths of their defenses and overcome areas of weakness. Look at what the 49ers did yesterday. This is a defense decimated by injury and suspension. They were down 5 preferred starters yesterday - Dorsey at the NT, A. Smith at OLB, Bowman at ILB, and their two starting corners, who are raw enough to begin with. Yet they still completely shut down one of the most talented offenses in the league.
Did you watch this game? Or are you just going off what Skip & Stephen A. tell you to think?
4 turnovers by the cowboys. 3 INT's.
The outcome of this game had much more to do with the ineptness of the Cowboy QB more so than what the Niners "shut down"
Yeah I'm thinking the Packers D would have had a fun day against that Cowboys O. There's no Marshawn Lynch, Percy Harvin, or a QB as efficient as Senneca Wilson. The Seattle Badgers are a complete football team, the Dallas Cowgirls are not. I will be interested to see how Seattle carves up this depleted 49er D, but sadly we will have to wait until the end of November.
Yes I watched the game...that's why I made a reference to it.
Who created those turnovers? I saw a back-up linebacker make a great strip of DeMarco Murray on the 2nd play of the game. When was the last time any of our starting ILBs linebackers made a play like that?
I saw back-up cornerbacks all over strong WRs all game. The only big play Dallas had was a 57 yard hail mary where Cox mistimed his jump.
Sure Romo was bad. But the 49er Defense got pressure on him, forced turnovers, and covered his WRs. You think our ILBs would have held Witten to two meaningless catches? We couldn't even cover Zach Miller the other night without holding him.
Looked to me like Romo lost a lot of power on his throws since last year. He's never had the best arm but he was struggling to get it downfield yesterday.
Looked to me like he was just throwing into double and even tripple coverage in a pathetic attempt of forcing the ball to Dez.
that, too BrainDed
back to the Packers
@RobDemovskyOn missed tackles: * Just 1 team had more MTs than the
#Packers did in Week 1. * Of the 14 games played, 12 were won by team with fewer MTs