"Dom Capers **FIRED** was an OUTSTANDING Football Coach"

See - I thought I was missing the obvious somewhere.  Oh well - "hang 50" on opposing team would be great - especially since the best an AR lead offense has been able to do for a season average is 35 per game - in 2011 I believe.  Some pick 6s from the defense would be helpful. 

Henry posted:

All which are legitimate interpretations.  The "hang 50" defense is the offense hanging 50+ points on the opposing team.  

You're so dramatic. 

They don't call me The Hyperbolist and/or Psycho Gravy for nothing.

I'm uncomfortable listening to a bunch of white dudes talking about hangings. Can we amend the name to something more suitable like NASCAR 50.

Henry posted:

They don't call me {snip}Psycho Gravy for nothing.

PSYCHO GROUPIE COCAINE CRAZY!!

Goalline posted:

I'm uncomfortable listening to a bunch of white dudes talking about hangings. Can we amend the name to something more suitable like NASCAR 50.

Slip 'Em 50?

Of all of Capers assistant coaches I think that Moss is the weakest. I miss the fire that Greene brought. I think that MM made a mistake making Moss head of something or another. I would like a fresh face in the LB coaching room.

Goalline posted:

I'm uncomfortable listening to a bunch of white dudes talking about hangings. Can we amend the name to something more suitable like NASCAR 50.

I'll talk about being hung instead. 

This reminds me of the 1968 Western Classic "Hang 'Em High" in which Jed Cooper is rescued from a unjust attempted lynching. 

Hangmen also die. link

Henry posted:

Goalline posted:

I'm uncomfortable listening to a bunch of white dudes talking about hangings. Can we amend the name to something more suitable like NASCAR 50.

Slip 'Em 50?

Now, that's wrong. I've reported this the NAACP. Expect some protests.

Fedya posted:

Goalline posted:

I'm uncomfortable listening to a bunch of white dudes talking about hangings. Can we amend the name to something more suitable like NASCAR 50.

I'll talk about being hung instead. 

DUDE!

ChilliJon posted:

This reminds me of the 1968 Western Classic "Hang 'Em High" in which Jed Cooper is rescued from a unjust attempted lynching. 

Too soon.

Rev. Jesse Jackson is here

He can see things....crystal clear

Mad you will get...

The Reverend will help you but not yet

Goalline posted:

Henry posted:

Goalline posted:

I'm uncomfortable listening to a bunch of white dudes talking about hangings. Can we amend the name to something more suitable like NASCAR 50.

Slip 'Em 50?

Now, that's wrong. I've reported this the NAACP. Expect some protests.

Make sure they are all Sisters.

Minus Burnett, Capers had every preferred starter playing today. And yet again, blown coverage after blown coverage, guys looking at each other (including Pro Bowler HHCD) pointing wondering what just happened. Shi* tackling again and again.

Facing a competent offense, Capers just fails over and over. Yes, some years it's injuries. But plenty of others, his defenses are healthy enough and he fails. And fails.

6 1st round picks on his defense.

2 2nd rounders as well.

Same as it ever was...

Give this D to BB and GB wins over and over again. I've never seen a coach do less with more than Dom does year after year, especially this year. He has the players, but gets little out of them. 

packerboi posted:

Minus Burnett, Capers had every preferred starter playing today. And yet again, blown coverage after blown coverage, guys looking at each other (including Pro Bowler HHCD) pointing wondering what just happened. Shi* tackling again and again.

Facing a competent offense, Capers just fails over and over. Yes, some years it's injuries. But plenty of others, his defenses are healthy enough and he fails. And fails.

6 1st round picks on his defense.

2 2nd rounders as well.

Same as it ever was...

I saw 4 D backs standing within 4 feet of a NO receiver as he caught the ball and turned and ran for about 5 yards--Dom's D is all about talk, I dont believe he teaches or motivates the D in the slightest.

Six things are true:

1 - Everybody agrees Dom should go

2 - MM will never do it unless he is forced to by TT

3 - TT won't force MM

4 - Dom will remain in GB as long as MM does

5 - MM will remain in GB as long as AR does due to winning percentage

6 - We will never know how many rings AR would have at the end of his career if the defense was nothing more than just respectable.  

Dom Capers sucks. 

Mike Zimmer.

Bob Sutton.

Leslie Fraiser

Pete Carroll

And on and on. Really hard to believe fresh blood and a house cleaning on D wouldn't significantly improve things. As another poster said, with Rodgers you have an instant 10 win team. Just imagine a real DC to go with your HOF QB.

Is there anyway, the Packers can have Dom spend his off week in the brumda triangle. Just asking?

MM has always shown excessive deference to Dom and it's a real blind spot of his.

Dom Capers is not just an OUTSTANDING coach, but he is also the LONGEST SERVING defensive coordinator in the NFL.

I get the feeling Dom is in Green Bay for as long as he wants and certainly as long as Mike McCarthy is the head coach.

SteveLuke posted:

Dom Capers is not just an OUTSTANDING coach, but he is also the LONGEST SERVING defensive coordinator in the NFL.

I get the feeling Dom is in Green Bay for as long as he wants and certainly as long as Mike McCarthy is the head coach.

 

And the moment arod retires, McCarthy and Capers are gone if not before then

MM may very well end up getting fired if he doesn't address Dom.  It's the classic loyalty to a fault scenario and I'm amazed he doesn't recognize it.  

They can package it as a "retirement" as give him some hush money and bull**** "special consultant to the team" title and it's all good.  

If they can Dom now, they'll promote from within. (interim?)
What's needed is fresh blood from outside the organization.

Tschmack posted:

MM may very well end up getting fired if he doesn't address Dom.  It's the classic loyalty to a fault scenario and I'm amazed he doesn't recognize it.  

They can package it as a "retirement" as give him some hush money and bull**** "special consultant to the team" title and it's all good.  

 

Agree, and would be long over due 

Dave Aranda???  

bvan posted:

What's needed is fresh blood from outside the organization.

Tschmack posted:

MM may very well end up getting fired if he doesn't address Dom.  It's the classic loyalty to a fault scenario and I'm amazed he doesn't recognize it.   

Well it wasn't until after the special teams gaffes were so instrumental in the Pack losing the NFC Championship game in Seattle that McCarthy finally fired his buddy Shawn Slocum.

And Slocum's special teams units were worse than Dom's defenses, so I think McCarthy's penchant for loyalty is not due to the fact that he does not recognize it but rather because he celebrates it.

Long live Dom and his enabler Mike McCarthy.

packerboi posted:

bvan posted:

What's needed is fresh blood from outside the organization.

Perfect!! Is he still in football shape?

I've felt for a quite awhile, if it took canning McCarthy to get rid of Capers so be it-----now it's to the point that if it takes canning Thompson and McCarthy to get rid of Capers so be it...

I mean, if it takes moving the team to Des Moines to get rid of Capers....

Don't give Iowacheese ideas.

Why does 3rd and long, a situation most D's strive for seem like 3rd and inches?  

This defense doesn't do anything well. They can't generate any pressure; not with four, five or six rushers. DBs cannot knock WRs off of their timing on short routes.  They get burned deep.They can't stop the run. They're just hopeless. It's coaching when a unit cannot do anything well. There are guys out there with talent (enough to at least look half-way competent), it's just being wasted by idiots with a rigid belief in their "system".

There's no excuse for giving up 500 yards of offense to a dome team on a wet, soggy grass field. It's just pitiful. Total incompetence.

Comper's defenses since winning the Super Bowl (based on ypg-nflstats.com):

2011-  32nd ranked
2012- 11th
2013- 25th
2014- 15th
2015- 15th
2016- 22nd

Average over those six years: 20th

Comper's postseason rankings since the SB year:

2011- 8th ranked defense (out of 12 teams)
2012- 11th
2013- 7th
2014- 7th
2015- 10th
2016- 12th (dead last)

He had two really good defenses (2009, 2010) but he's been downright mediocre to awful since....yet he's the longest tenured DC in the league.

His predecessor, Bob Sanders, was fired after three seasons. From 2006-2008 Bob's defenses ranked 12th, 11th and 20th.  I'm not arguing that the Packers should have kept Sanders, he clearly needed to go, but Comper's has been much worse since 2011.

The only upshot to Rodgers getting hurt is that we most likely won't have to watch another Comper's playoff implosion, and it'll make it easier for MM to send Compers into retirement when the season is over....not that MM will pull the trigger. 

I like MM and I think he's a really good coach, but like others have said, if he doesn't jettison Compers by next season, he should go too. 

Capers career as a DC has followed a similar pattern where ever he has coached, the teams initially show great improvement from before he took over, but begin to falter after 2-3 years, & never regain top 10 status again.