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This is what Mike McCarthy just said at his season-ending press conference.

Michael Cohen ‏@Michael_Cohen13 14m14 minutes ago
McCarthy: "Dom Caper is an outstanding football coach. That doesn't change."

Is it time for all Packer fans to get behind the longest-serving defensive coordinator and stop criticizing him?

I mean, imagine how poorly the D would have performed this season if Dom was not so very outstanding.

In Dom we must trust.

 

 

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The Heckler posted:

Well there are two thoughts on Dom #1 he stinks as a coach and #2 he was given a short end of things because of all the injuries.  MM must believe in #2

Well, MM made it pretty clear that Sam Shields is likely not coming back, so assuming MM believes Dom was just shorthanded due to injury, that means MM must believe that TT needs to get Dom another CB of Shields' caliber, right?

Could be that McCarthy doesn't see another coordinator out there that he thinks is an upgrade or that he could work with. The rumor going around is that Wade Phillips was dividing the lockerroom Buddy Ryan style, perhaps McCarthy wants a DC he knows is capable and will maintain the culture. Capable for Capers is arguable right now, but McCarthy seems to think he's the best coordinator available. Hard to argue with a highly successful coach.  

The Heckler posted:

Well there are two thoughts on Dom #1 he stinks as a coach and #2 he was given a short end of things because of all the injuries.  MM must believe in #2

Why can't it be both?

I'm not going to 'read' too much into that statement for now.
I don't consider it a ' vote of confidence' or that his departure is imminent.

If he's still employed by the end of next week, however....

Dr.-Ka-Bong posted:

Dom won't divide a locker room, that is for sure

to divide a locker room, he would have to talk to players once in awhile

You and I must have the same inside sources. My guy told me Dom's headset isn't even turned on, the players are just out their calling their own defense. When we see him talking he's on the headset he's ordering pizza. 

The Heckler posted:

Well there are two thoughts on Dom #1 he stinks as a coach and #2 he was given a short end of things because of all the injuries.  MM must believe in #2

Or #3, development?

1st or 2nd year players who saw significant defensive snaps this year: Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez, Damarious Randall, Quitnon Rollins, LaDarius Gunter.

My crystal ball says Thompson maybe goes after a top flight CB in FA or the draft, but I'm more inclined to believe he goes after front 7 players in the 1st and 2nd rounds.

Hungry5 posted:

Or #3, development?

1st or 2nd year players who saw significant defensive snaps this year: Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez, Damarious Randall, Quitnon Rollins, LaDarius Gunter.

Or possibly more significant, in the post season: Kentrell Brice, Marwin Evans, and Josh Hawkins.

I can't remember when it happened, but there is a link out there about Dom realizing that there is power in talking to his players.  Woodson bitched about refusal to make adjustments.  Dom told Kevin Greene he didn't have a place for him on his staff.  There is a "fire Dom Capers" thread for nearly every year he's been here after the superbowl.  He has failed over and over again.  

Grave Digger posted:

How about we trade for Eric Berry, that would probably make Dom look like a genus again.

A trade? Are those allowed in the NFL?

Wouldn't matter anyway as Berry is a free agent and we know free agents never work out. 

DH13 posted:
Hungry5 posted:

Or #3, development?

1st or 2nd year players who saw significant defensive snaps this year: Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez, Damarious Randall, Quitnon Rollins, LaDarius Gunter.

Or possibly more significant, in the post season: Kentrell Brice, Marwin Evans, and Josh Hawkins.

Evans didn't log a single snap in the playoffs. Hawkins played 18% of the total postseason snaps on defense. Brice played 37% of the defensive snaps. It would have been more if he's not injured early in Atlanta. But it's not like these three logged significant snaps in the playoffs. 

And Dom Capers sucks.

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Dr.-Ka-Bong posted:

I can't remember when it happened, but there is a link out there about Dom realizing that there is power in talking to his players.  Woodson bitched about refusal to make adjustments.  Dom told Kevin Greene he didn't have a place for him on his staff.  There is a "fire Dom Capers" thread for nearly every year he's been here after the superbowl.  He has failed over and over again.  

Except Kevin Greene left on his own and obviously wasn't too sore at Dom as Big D was his presenter at his HOF induction. Woodson bitching about adjustments isn't the same as not communicating. You have valid complaints with Dom, these here are not among them.

ChilliJon posted:
DH13 posted:
Hungry5 posted:

Or #3, development?

1st or 2nd year players who saw significant defensive snaps this year: Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez, Damarious Randall, Quitnon Rollins, LaDarius Gunter.

Or possibly more significant, in the post season: Kentrell Brice, Marwin Evans, and Josh Hawkins.

Evans didn't log a single snap in the playoffs. Hawkins played 18% of the total postseason snaps on defense. Brice played 37% of the defensive snaps. It would have been more if he's not injured early in Atlanta. But it's not like these three logged significant snaps in the playoffs. 

And Dom Capers sucks.

Evans must have quietly snuck on the field against Atlanta when he very clearly dropped an INT.

Grave Digger posted:
ChilliJon posted

Evans didn't log a single snap in the playoffs. Hawkins played 18% of the total postseason snaps on defense. Brice played 37% of the defensive snaps. It would have been more if he's not injured early in Atlanta. But it's not like these three logged significant snaps in the playoffs. 

And Dom Capers sucks.

Evans must have quietly snuck on the field against Atlanta when he very clearly dropped an INT.

Sorry. Hawkins didn't log a snap. Evans played 18% of the defensive snaps in the playoffs. 

Grave Digger posted:
ChilliJon posted:
DH13 posted:
Hungry5 posted:

Or #3, development?

1st or 2nd year players who saw significant defensive snaps this year: Kenny Clark, Dean Lowry, Jake Ryan, Blake Martinez, Damarious Randall, Quitnon Rollins, LaDarius Gunter.

Or possibly more significant, in the post season: Kentrell Brice, Marwin Evans, and Josh Hawkins.

Evans didn't log a single snap in the playoffs. Hawkins played 18% of the total postseason snaps on defense. Brice played 37% of the defensive snaps. It would have been more if he's not injured early in Atlanta. But it's not like these three logged significant snaps in the playoffs. 

And Dom Capers sucks.

Evans must have quietly snuck on the field against Atlanta when he very clearly dropped an INT.

I think he dropped one vs. the Cowboys.

Maybe he is. Some GMs are better at finding some positions than other. John Schneider can't find a quality OL to save his soul. Same for Ozzie Newsome. Kevin Colbert also struggled with that for a long time.

I am resigned to the fact that every season will come down to how well AR plays, and remains healthy, and the defense being what it is. And maybe we can get into a year when the offense does not misfire in post season, as they did in the 2011 and 2016 seasons, and we win shootouts all the way to winning the SB. That's about the only shot at it, unless TT spends on defense in FA this off season.  Yeah, right.

Too early to drawn any conclusions about Dom's status. MM saying all the proper things at this stage. I doubt that all the conversation's have happened yet. Even so I'm not sure MM has the stones to cut Capers loose. More likely would create a new position and promote him, Defensive Czar or Master of Defensive Wizardry. This only if TT puts a gun to his head.

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