Will Davis be to 2015, as Lynch was to 2010?
No, but as a half-season rental for a half bag of deflated Brady balls, he could help.
Will Davis be to 2015, as Lynch was to 2010?
No, but as a half-season rental for a half bag of deflated Brady balls, he could help.
So if SF gets to swap their 7th for Denver's 6th next year, a difference of less than 10 picks, and then gets a 6th in 2017, would they have been better off just keeping him and getting a 6th or 7th compensatory pick next season?
Will Davis be to 2015, as Lynch was to 2010?
Gosh, we can only hope so!
This reminds me of 2010 when Thompson passed up a chance to get Marshawn Lynch. I think the Packers could have won the Superbowl if he would have made that move.
Yeah.. No way they would have won it with him. If I recall correctly, it would have cost us a 3rd in 2011 as Seattle gave up a 4th. Ya know who we drafter with that 3rd?
Alex ****ing Green.
The we won anyway argument is ludicrous.
So it's ludicrous to say that winning Superbowl means Thompson made the right decision in 2010, but sane and logical to say the draft pick they give up will turn into the next Alex Green. Got it.
I agree with a lot of stuff you post and you have some great insights, but you seem to enjoy trying to pick fights instead of have a discussion.
Sweeping generalizations comparing two different eras of football chaps my ass.
Considering both our O and our D, because of their complexity, rely on players earning the trust of the staff and AR to get on the field, it seems pretty clear why you don't see TT bring guys in mid-season for a chance to play meaningful roles. How much of the playbook and how much of AR's trust do we think Davis would earn to actually be of any value this season? IF he still possesses any skills of value.
My guess is that Peyton will trust him......this Sunday
It didn't take Howard Green long to learn the playbook in 2010.
I'm guessing Davis would earn 12's trust the minute he did something no other tight end on the roster can do - catch a pass more than 5 yards past the line of scrimmage.
The one thing VD would have done here is command at least the 2nd tier DB on an opposing defense which likely would have led to less doubling of Cobb. And then that also would have meant Adams get's the 3rd CB covering him and JJ get's the 4th.
So even if VD didn't catch a lot of passes, he'd be a much better decoy/threat than Rodgers or Quarless would have been.
Because VD already knows the Packers playbook. I see.
TE>>>DT
VD is a mensa.
Originally Posted by heyward:
It didn't take Howard Green long to learn the playbook in 2010.
I see this as a bit of a different situation in learning the playbook (NT options limited).
As for others comments about gaining trust in the staff, I agree to an extent, but again looking at 2010 they were pulling guys from all over to patch that D together, and it played very well. I wonder if Capers was forced to simplify things with so many new faces?
Are we really fighting about Vernon Davis??? The same VD who cried tears of joy when GB passed him over in the draft?
Next, let's fight about the benefits of trading for an in prime, Reggie White. Should we do it?
Because VD already knows the Packers playbook. I see.
TE>>>DT
The playbook isn't quantum physics. Pretty sure a 10-year vet could figure it out by the playoffs. Also pretty sure that this board would be pro-Davis if Ted traded for him.
Because football players are smart?
"There's a lot going on with Matthew Stafford now ... he was benched earlier in the year which, for a franchise quarterback, never happens," Rapaport said. "I'm also told that Joe Lombardi, the former offensive coordinator, was frustrated that he couldn't put enough on Stafford's plate, did not think he was able to handle it, was not taking as much control of the offense as the coaching staff wanted.
"In fact, new offensive coordinator Jim Bob Cooter actually had to simplify things for Stafford. All of which, in part, leads to the conclusion that Stafford's days in Detroit are very much numbered."
Is telling Stafford linebackers are allowed to blitz in the NFL adding to his plate?
Looks like Matt is doing OK
I've been saying for years that if you took away Megatron, Stafford would have ben benched years ago. He was never that good but he had Megatron bail him out repeatedly. And now that Megatron is just a "good" WR, all the flaws in Stafford's game are being exposed.
But I'm not too worried about Stafford, he looks like he's doing ok for himself.
How could anybody named Jim Bob Cooter make things complicated?
Well trying to understand what he's saying between a total of two teeth could be a start.
Then again the playbook too.
The Lions thread is a couple doors over. Please use it. Thanks
I had to re-open & re-close this thread, because of this....
EDIT: Check that....I'll close it later. It's the off-season. Enjoy!
This team would be 16-0 already this season if they had Vernon Davis