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@mrtundra posted:

You can't shut the Boston fan up! I hope he's done calling games!

Is he really a Celtics fan?  I have to be honest, I’ve felt over the years that he actually really likes the Bucks from his days as a Bucks assistant coach in the 1970s.

@Goalline posted:

Boston talking head whining about the refs? They got double the free throws😳

Not just the talking heads, the Celtics head coach complaining about it in his presser. I guess they wanted triple the FTs?

Some of those highlight plays show Giannis going up for shots at the rim with guys pulling his elbow with no call.

The Bucks were called 27 fouls, the Celtics 21. 34 FTs to 17?

And the Celtics want more ?

They are trying to work the officials so that Giannis picks up about 4 charges on Monday.

@fightphoe93 posted:

Is he really a Celtics fan?  I have to be honest, I’ve felt over the years that he actually really likes the Bucks from his days as a Bucks assistant coach in the 1970s.

A lot of the talking heads just don't like Giannis' style.

That’s not even the half of it.  During timeouts Marcus Smart and Grant Williams were constantly whining to the refs.   Not to mention the other Williams laying on the court for like 5 minutes multiple times to simply buy time for his guys to rest.  

I know the Boston HC has a solid reputation but he’s quickly becoming almost as annoying as some of his players.  You shot 34 FTs on the road.  What more do you want?

@Tschmack posted:

That’s not even the half of it.  During timeouts Marcus Smart and Grant Williams were constantly whining to the refs.   Not to mention the other Williams laying on the court for like 5 minutes multiple times to simply buy time for his guys to rest.  

I know the Boston HC has a solid reputation but he’s quickly becoming almost as annoying as some of his players.  You shot 34 FTs on the road.  What more do you want?

They want Giannis to be limited by foul trouble. If Giannis fouled out and no one else had more than 2 fouls they'd be more than fine.

This is the thing about the Bucks.

Look up and down their roster.  Giannis and Holiday might be the best defensive players at the he respective positions in the league.  Lopez is an elite rebounder and rim protector.  Wes Matthews domInated Jason Tatum today. Carter and Hill are very good on ball defenders.  Obviously Middleton is decent when healthy.  Yet Boston is the so called best D in the league?

Smart is a poser.  He’s a fake ass gangster with his flopping and antics and constant whining.  If I’m Holiday I’m insulted that putz won DPOY.  The Williams are almost as bad.  And the head coach?  He sounds like a JV coach the way he runs his mouth and complains.   Hey coach - this isn’t even a game today if Boston doesn’t get 30+ FT attempts.

The bottom line is Giannis isn’t the AAU darling biatch and people hate that Milwaukee wins.  Fuck Boston.  Get past their nonsense and it’s another manufactured “winner” in Miami.  Then beat their asses as well.  Then get the chip once again.

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Anybody in the Boston side crying about the officials, if I'm the officials, I REALLY give them something to cry about in game 4 and put Milwaukee at the line triple what Boston gets.

@fightphoe93 posted:

Is he really a Celtics fan?  I have to be honest, I’ve felt over the years that he actually really likes the Bucks from his days as a Bucks assistant coach in the 1970s.

I doubt it, but it seems, to me, that he is always praising Boston. He also out talks the game announcer and I find that annoying.

I mean, it wasn’t quite the Kings and Lakers in 2001 but Boston went to the line 17 times over about a 15 minute span late in the game.  Milwaukee’s last free throws were like 4 minutes left in the 3Q.

So any Boston player, fan, coach, media hack that suggests the Celtics got hosed by the refs is a moron.  Like Bud said after the game - it’s very hard to win games when another team shoots twice the amount of free throws.  You’d expect to maybe see that as a road team but at home?  Rarely if ever.

@Tschmack posted:


I know I’ve said this a million times, but it’s tough to beat a team like Milwaukee 4 out of 7.   Sure, they might have a bad game or two, but several?   Not very likely.  Now that Milwaukee took game 1 the Celtics have to win 4 out of 6. 

From the other thread....

Now, Is Boston going to win 3 out of 4? We're going to find out starting Monday

I think what we are seeing is the evolution of Giannis.  

Over the course of a series, he just seems to “figure things out” as Bud says and now that his game is a bit more refined it’s just harder to beat this team.

Furthermore, it helps that the Bucks are an elite defensive team that can get stops in crunch time.  

In the end, the Bucks are 2-1 without having a decent shooting game yet.  If I had to bet, game 4 or 5 the shots will fall and that might be the end of Boston.

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@H5 posted:

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But the Celtics were “incensed”, and their whiny little bitch of a head coach “stormed out of the arena” after losing.

17 free throws the last 17 minutes of the game, to 0 for Milwaukee. Shut the fuck up.

God, how I would love for Giannis to go for 50/15/10/2/2 and put Boston in a 3-1 hole.

When Milwaukee beats these poser crybabies, I’m going to enjoy the hell out of pimping their entitled fans on Twitter.

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You don’t know the half of it

Udoka was also pissed guys like Grant Williams stopped to complain to the refs and Bucks got out in transition and capitalized.  

I was at the game.  Bucks are in their head.  Marcus Smart didn’t even bother to go to the huddle at timeouts it was to approach the ref and state his weak ass case.

If the Bucks win game 4 they will win game 5 as Boston just doesn’t know any better.  

@tsr86free posted:

Bill Simmons and Skip Bayless say Boston should’ve won. F them.

They can both be annoying, but I respect Bill Simmons. Bill Simmons is a homer Boston fan. He's made no pretense that he's anything but that, and he started going to Celtics' games with his father when he was in elementary school. He can cite statistics from decades ago and clearly loves watching sports. He's like one of us on this board that somehow ended up making a lot of money from what all of us do as a hobby. He lives and dies with the Celtics, Red Sox, and Patriots.

Skip Bayless has almost no redeeming qualities. He's made a career by being an asshole. He's loud, obnoxious, and often has no idea what he's talking about.

Great article on the officiating in the The Athletic (subscription needed). I highly recommend subscribing - it's worth the small amount they charge. I've put in 3 short excerpts from an interview they had with Jon Horst.

https://theathletic.com/330035...t-game3-officiating/

  • In the first three quarters, Antetokounmpo took 12 shots in the paint and attempted 12 free throws. In the fourth quarter, Antetokounmpo took eight shots in the paint but did not attempt a free throw.
  • Holiday became the first player since 1993 to take 30 shots in a playoff game and not attempt a single free throw. Holiday took 14 of his 30 shots in the paint.
  • Both Derrick White (eight) and Jaylen Brown (11) recorded single-game playoff career highs in free-throw attempts. White took six shots total, and only two of those shots came in the paint.

From what I could see, Derrick White would initiate contact and if the shot didn’t fall he was at the line.  On at least two of those fouls (Pat C) there was zero contact .

I think Boston’s strategy is to drive to the hoop and hope they get Milwaukee in foul trouble like they did in game 3.  The problem is, I think game 3 was an anomaly.   I don’t see Pat C, Portis, and Allen shooting 4-15 from 3.   I also don’t think Horford will get you 22/16 again.  He’s playing almost 40 minutes a game and unlike game 3 he doesn’t have 3 full days of rest to recover.  During the regular season he was only playing 29 minutes per game.

I like Milwaukee’s chances for game 4 assuming they don’t have a repeat of game 3 with the refs.  That 17-0 FT run basically kept Boston in the game.  

@Tschmack posted:

From what I could see, Derrick White would initiate contact and if the shot didn’t fall he was at the line.  On at least two of those fouls (Pat C) there was zero contact .

I think Boston’s strategy is to drive to the hoop and hope they get Milwaukee in foul trouble like they did in game 3.  The problem is, I think game 3 was an anomaly.   I don’t see Pat C, Portis, and Allen shooting 4-15 from 3.   I also don’t think Horford will get you 22/16 again.  He’s playing almost 40 minutes a game and unlike game 3 he doesn’t have 3 full days of rest to recover.  During the regular season he was only playing 29 minutes per game.

I like Milwaukee’s chances for game 4 assuming they don’t have a repeat of game 3 with the refs.  That 17-0 FT run basically kept Boston in the game.  

Their main strategy is to try to get Giannis in foul trouble. So far, the officials have been pretty good about not giving Marcus Smart calls for his Academy Award-winning flops. Horford has a reputation like PJ Tucker and Wes Matthews that allows him some leeway to play physical. Horford's go-to move this series is to stick his forearm into Giannis' chest when he's going up for a shot.

The guy that just doesn't get enough respect is Holiday. 30 shots, 14 in the paint, no FT attempts?

By the way, while Giannis has struggled from the floor in this series (for him), the fact that he just put up 42-12-8 in a playoff win and the standard response from most people was that it was kind of expected speaks volumes to where he is as a all-time great. He's now had 6 career playoff games of 40 points or better and he's averaged almost 13 rebounds, 6 assists, and 3 blocks in those 6 games.

I think some of the Bucks 3 point shooters may get hot tonight. They may need it to counteract what I guess might be a 40 point night from Tatum with about 18 FT attempts.

I think what gets easily lost in this series is how good defensively the Bucks are.  Yes, Boston is very good, but there’s a reason Tatum has struggled.  You have an elite defender in Holiday or Matthews defending him and that’s no small task if you are Tatum.  Those guys just do not give him any space to operate.   Holiday is strong as a bull and Tatum just can’t deal with it.

Jaylen Brown has been better but I think the Bucks figured that if he’s got to switch and defend Giannis that’s a lost cause.  Brown was gassed at the end of game 3 and that’ll happen if he’s got to try to slow down Giannis.  I think you will see Giannis continue to get more favorable matchups that way.

Now that Hill is back I expect him to get some more minutes with Allen perhaps getting less because Hill’s a better defensive player.  

I also think they really need to ensure they keep Lopez involved offensively because no one on Boston can defend him.

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@Tschmack posted:

I think what gets easily lost in this series is how good defensively the Bucks are.  Yes, Boston is very good, but there’s a reason Tatum has struggled.  You have an elite defender in Holiday or Matthews defending him and that’s no small task if you are Tatum.  Those guys just do not give him any space to operate.   Holiday is strong as a bull and Tatum just can’t deal with it.

Jaylen Brown has been better but I think the Bucks figured that if he’s got to switch and defend Giannis that’s a lost cause.  Brown was gassed at the end of game 3 and that’ll happen if he’s got to try to slow down Giannis.  I think you will see Giannis continue to get more favorable matchups that way.

Now that Hill is back I expect him to get some more minutes with Allen perhaps getting less because Hill’s a better defensive player.  

I also think they really need to ensure they keep Lopez involved offensively because no one on Boston can defend him.

A lot of people complain about Hill getting minutes over Jevon Carter. While Carter is tenacious and a great defender, he's just not big enough to bother guys like Jaylon Brown or Tatum. They just back him down and shoot over him. Carter's wingspan is 6'4" while Hill's is 6'9"

If they do get past the Celtics, Carter will be likely get more minutes in matchups against people like Kyle Lowry, Chris Paul, and Maxey.

You're right, the Celtics can't guard Lopez in the post. Outside of Al Horford who is glued to Giannis, they aren't big enough.

Every game in this series is pivotal, but I sort of feel like whoever wins game 4 probably has an 80% chance of winning the series.

I don’t want to see Boston regaining home court advantage.  If we think the officials were bad in Milwaukee, I expect them to heavily favor the Celtics in the return trip to Boston.  Let’s take care of business at home tonight and that allows them to only have to play 1 more time in Massachusetts to win in 6.

I concur that holding onto the home court advantage that we stole in the first game is VITAL, and hoping that tonight's officiating is more balanced and less influenced by all the Celtic lobbying.....

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