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It's over. Embarrassing loss. 

I think MM is gone. They have a mini-bye week. 

Green Bay outplayed them most of the game. Blown timeouts, blown challenge because of it, terrible play calling. Ran Jones 4 times for 13 yards in the second half. 

104 yards in the second half on 23 plays. 57 yards on one high risk play to Adams. 47 yards on the other 22 plays. The Packers had the better QB, the best RB on the field, the best WR on the field, and the better offensive line. No turnovers to Seattle's one. They will managed to lose.

This is probably the end of the MM era in Green Bay. A loss next week in Minnesota will really end it. 9-6-1 is probably not getting you into the playoffs.

There's a reason why MM loses a lot of games like this. I was a little blinded by his 2010 success for a while.  

bandit posted:

Blame MM all you want, but if you want to run MM out town, than take A R with him. Because he has become half the problem 

Yeah, but.....

It's pretty obvious Rodgers is fed-up.

Grave Digger posted:
NedFlanders posted:

MM has lost AR and the team. He has to be gone tonight. 

A 13 year veteran shouldn’t be lost. He should be leading. He’s been ****ing up as much as anyone.

A 13 year veteran that is the highest paid player in NFL history. We pay him to ****ing dominate. The “scheme” or play call didn’t miss that 3rd down throw, he did and it’s unacceptable.

Blair Kiel posted:
NedFlanders posted:

MM has lost AR and the team. He has to be gone tonight. 

And it won't happen, sadly.

There is absolutely no downside to getting rid of MM now. None. In fact, it gives them a head start on a coach search. It might energize AR and put some fear in others to perform.

bigdoggyjude posted:

Key to this game is every 3rd and short was a joke. McCarthy is indeed a weak coach. We will be lucky to go 500 this season. 

who says it's not the 100 million man with the run pass option? he needs to stop dating Man-Jaws

There’s been some suck this year, but the way the offense played in the second half was inexcusable. They played like they didn’t care. 

Rodgers plays like he only cares about the big play. He passes up underneath guys over and over that could have moved the chains. He doesn’t try to escape until it’s too late.  All he wants is the big play. 

No game plan. No rythm. Just deep drop Rodgers waiting on the big play and getting sacked. It’s no fun whatsoever to watch.

Sufferinginmn posted:

I'm ready for MM to go too, but if and when I watch the all 22 you will see rodgers missing many opportunities to sustain drives with opportunities to do so.

Not really. He could take a check down to Jones for 3 yards on that one play. The real problem is that MM designs plays for one receiver too often. If that doesn't work he relies on Rodgers to go sandlot. That's usually the whole offense. 

One of the TDs tonight was on a Rodgers scramble drill that required a 60 yard throw across his body. 

The winning TD pass tonight was a schemed play against the defense Seattle knew would likely work when they needed it. The clock clinching play was a read option QB keeper they'd been setting up the whole game. 

MM got his clocked cleaned by Carroll tonight. 

packaddict posted:

I would say he would agree but MM needs to be gone.  I'm sorry but these plays calls given to AR are not working.  

Yeah, but what would work when your QB refuses to take what’s given him and/or refuses to throw OOB? What do you do when your RB is all alone 5 yards in front of you and your all-world QB refuses to even look at him when everyone else is covered? If you’re MM, apparently you do nothing and let the QB keep getting away with it because we’ve seen this for the past couple of years and nothing changes. And now it’s too late to get control; AR is probably running the show now.

bandit posted:

Blame MM all you want, but if you want to run MM out town, than take A R with him. Because he has become half the problem 

The franchise QB isn't going to be fired. MM is another story.

Living out of market and no longer having the DTV Ticket has been a godsend this year on most weekends. This organization has done nothing but waste the last few years of Rodgers’s career—years they’ll never, EVER, get back.

Refusing to make coaching changes, refusing to change schemes, refusing to adapt to defenses figuring out the 4 plays we run, refusing to make personnel changes, sticking to “we do what we do,” and refusing to acknowledge how bad the defense was for so long. Now it’s too late.

They have to rebuild starting tomorrow. MM needs to go now, and the rest of this season needs to be a salvage mission for what we have, what we can work with, and what we need to invest in the next two years to become a legitimate Wild Card contender. If this keeps up, I don’t see 12 playing out his full contract.

I gave up on the NFL this year because f*** what they did the first three weeks of the season—and whatever other horses*** they’ve done since. The Packers are going to take a big hit in the same way from fans if they don’t change their course immediately, and will fall far behind other teams who started rebuilding right away.

MichiganPacker2 posted:
Sufferinginmn posted:

I'm ready for MM to go too, but if and when I watch the all 22 you will see rodgers missing many opportunities to sustain drives with opportunities to do so.

Not really. He could take a check down to Jones for 3 yards on that one play. The real problem is that MM designs plays for one receiver too often. If that doesn't work he relies on Rodgers to go sandlot. That's usually the whole offense. 

One of the TDs tonight was on a Rodgers scramble drill that required a 60 yard throw across his body. 

The winning TD pass tonight was a schemed play against the defense Seattle knew would likely work when they needed it. The clock clinching play was a read option QB keeper they'd been setting up the whole game. 

MM got his clocked cleaned by Carroll tonight. 

MM getting out coached is not that impressive anymore. But well said none-the-less.

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