I think the opening spread is directly related to Eli and Aaron. Eli has been very mediocre all year. Aaron is white hot right now. I think the spread will tighten a bit during the week but Aaron is different level right now.
SanDiegoPackFan posted:Agree, RMan....that is why the opening spread is curious. All the big bettors know the Packers history against the Giants in the playoffs at Lambeau. Then, look at the health of the rosters at this time and I'm not sure why the Packers are a 6.5 point favorite.
It opened at -4 on my site. I don't think 6.5 was real.
Correct. 3.5 or 4 was the open.
YATittle posted:Time for a Janis Sweep. Then Adams can get called for holding...
Eh, Janis! got called for holding on what would otherwise have been a big gain last night.
BrainDed posted:Correct. 3.5 or 4 was the open.
OK. All I know is I didn't just make up the -6.5. Maybe it was the opening line from the graphic after last night's game on NBC or on the NFL Channel's post-game show or BSPN's SportsCenter Show. But GB -3 would mean it's basically a draw. Thanks for the info BrainDed.
Fedya posted:YATittle posted:Time for a Janis Sweep. Then Adams can get called for holding...
Eh, Janis! got called for holding on what would otherwise have been a big gain last night.
yeah, that was my point. Payback. Adams looked so pissed at him when he got flagged. Big gainer for Davante, and would have put him over 1,000 for the year.
Eli and offense can be explosive, but haven't scored big this season. The most points scored was 28 vs the Eagles early November. They scored 27 vs the Browns at the end of that month, and haven't been anywhere close to that to since. As close as they came was 19, in each of their last 2 games to round out their season, and that just happens to be their average points/game scored.
The Packers average 27 points/game for context.
I think that is a direct reflection of their poor OL play, which has hurried throws from Eli....and that's exactly what our DL has to take advantage of. They're not giving up many sacks, yet are only producing mediocre amounts of yards. My guess is there are a lot of quick passes underneath to avoid opponent's pass rush, but their WRs or TEs aren't getting any YAC. So, yeah, ILB play and S support to contain those plays will be paramount.
FWIW. their rushing game sucks. In spite of no "real" RB, we average almost 20 yards more per game. Normally, I'd say this really plays to the strength of our defense, but this year.....is it going to be the defense that shut down Seattle or they one that was raped by the Redskins that shows up?
Giants are a tough match-up for sure. Hoping the reports of their WRs partying it up all night in Miami last night are an indication of how they plan to prepare for this week's game.
R MaN posted:Giants have a running game the Lions don't have. And wide receivers that can make big time plays. This game makes me nervous.
Giants really don't have much of a running game - they rank 29th in the NFL in total yards and 30th in yards per carry. Their offense is literally OBJ and that's it. Rashad Jennings, Paul Perkins, Sterling Shepard and Victor Cruz aren't keeping MM and Dom up at night.
This game is going to come down to protecting Rodgers, not turning it over, and covering OBJ. They do those three things, I really don't see how the Giants win. Of course as a fan, I can be that arrogant about a win. Packers can't and they won't.
Packers 31 Giants 16
I hope you're right, CU! I would love to see us break that jinx we seem to have playing the Giants at home in the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, sure, different team different year yadda yadda yadda...said the same things in the 3 or 4 years back in the 90's when we couldn't be the Cowboys in Dallas. The stink still lingers.
The difference this time is we won't have a QB who wants to be anywhere but playing in a cold windy Lambeau Field.
ammo posted:The difference this time is we won't have a QB who wants to be anywhere but playing in a cold windy Lambeau Field.
How is that different from 2011?
This is going to be a tough match-up. Manning is a proven QB. The match-up of those WRs with our secondary is scary to think about, even if a slow track will help us out.
D-line/LBs will have to get to the QB. And the offense has to keep rolling against a top notch defense.
I'll be hedging my emotions by placing a couple dollars on the Giants to win outright. If the Packers win, in my warped mind it's like I paid for it.
bvan posted:WILD CARD ROUND
Sat 1/7, 4:30 PM Oakland @ Houston ESPN/ABC Sean McDonough, Jon Gruden Sat 1/7, 8:00 PM Detroit @ Seattle NBC Al Michaels, Cris Collinsworth Sun 1/8, 1:00 PM Miami @ Pittsburgh CBS Jim Nantz, Phil Simms Sun 1/8, 4:30 PM NY Giants @ Green Bay FOX Joe Buck, Troy Aikman
FML....
Why can't a couple of us head up to the booth & announce the game?
Gotta get consistent pressure on Eli to protect (hide) the DB's.
Also RTFB like you did vs. the Lions. That keeps Eli on the sideline too
The chess game between MM & Spagnuola is going to be interesting. The Giants may have the best trio of cover corners we have seen, with a defensive line that has improved over the course of the season. They held a prolific Redskins offense to 10 pts. last week. Of course the biggest factor in that game was the 2 INTs that Cousins threw. If Cobb plays I wonder if we will see any 4 or even 5 WR sets in an attempt to get the match-up we want?
8-7-1 with a "prolific" offense?
Rockin' Robin posted:Giants are a tough match-up for sure. Hoping the reports of their WRs partying it up all night in Miami last night are an indication of how they plan to prepare for this week's game.
Let's hope they don't graduate from the Max McGee School of Playoff Prep.
Boris posted:Why can't a couple of us head up to the booth & announce the game?
I'd pay to see Brak and Music City do the game.
I'll give you a topic:
The New York Giants are neither new nor York nor Giants. Discuss...
BrainDed posted:I'll be hedging my emotions by placing a couple dollars on the Giants to win outright. If the Packers win, in my warped mind it's like I paid for it.
So you're a Middle Ages Catholic.
https://projects.fivethirtyeig...ions/?ex_cid=rrpromo
the Packers over the Gmen 66% to 34%
Rockin' Robin posted:ammo posted:The difference this time is we won't have a QB who wants to be anywhere but playing in a cold windy Lambeau Field.
How is that different from 2011?
Hopefully we won't have the death of a young son of an assistant coach before the game.
Goldie posted:https://projects.fivethirtyeig...ions/?ex_cid=rrpromo
the Packers over the Gmen 66% to 34%
Those were about the odds for Hillary from that site....
Too soon.
FLPACKER posted:The chess game between MM & Spagnuola is going to be interesting. The Giants may have the best trio of cover corners we have seen, with a defensive line that has improved over the course of the season. They held a prolific Redskins offense to 10 pts. last week. Of course the biggest factor in that game was the 2 INTs that Cousins threw. If Cobb plays I wonder if we will see any 4 or even 5 WR sets in an attempt to get the match-up we want?
This is a game where Jared Cook has to be big. Either that or Geronimo! has to come up big.
Do we put Gunter and his considerable press coverage skills on OBJ and have him try to frustrate him early? I know Gunter doesn't have the speed, but maybe safety help might cover that deficiency?
We do whatever we did last time to limit OBJ to 5 catches for 56 yards and Eli Manning to 50% completion % and 200 yards. If memory serves it was a 2 deep look with a lot of man off and zone coverage. Just like every team this year, NY is going to look to exploit that gap in the intermediate zone behind the CB along the sideline. That's a perfect opportunity to bait Eli into throwing some INTs.
BrainDed posted:I think this is the toughest team they could face. If they pull it out, I see them going all the way.
The Cowboys were 13-3 (14-2 if they'd have played their starters in Week 17) for a reason. That OL is as dominant a line as there is in the league. The only team that beat them when they were playing all their starters were the Giants - twice.
The Giants match up well with the Cowboys because they can stop the run. Elliott was held in check in the two meetings - 44 carries for 158 yards and 1 TD in two games. When Elliott doesn't run wild, then Prescott has to be more than a good game manager to beat a good team, and he's not there yet.
Stopping the run doesn't matter against GB. I think a lot of teams would prefer to have to stop Ripkowski or Montgomery 20 times a game because that's 20 less times they have to worry about Rodgers creating something.
As long as OBJ doesn't go wild, the Packers should win this one. In a perverse way, not having Randall and Rollins might be better because it will force Dom to do something other than what he was doing - which clearly hasn't been working except against Seattle (maybe because Wilson doesn't throw deep outs as well as other QBs). The new approach (Burnett in WR coverage) may be exposed, but at least it is something new.
Geronimo Allison is going to be on NFL radio on Sirius at 9:30 AM central, if anyone is interested.
I'm going to listen for dating tips.
GBFanForLife posted:8-7-1 with a "prolific" offense?
Yes, Skins were 3rd in total yards, 12th in scoring. Their defense was 28th in yards given & 19th in pts. I think their defense is more of a reason for the overall record than their offense. However the roles were reversed in their loss to the Giants.
MichiganPacker posted:FLPACKER posted:The chess game between MM & Spagnuola is going to be interesting. The Giants may have the best trio of cover corners we have seen, with a defensive line that has improved over the course of the season. They held a prolific Redskins offense to 10 pts. last week. Of course the biggest factor in that game was the 2 INTs that Cousins threw. If Cobb plays I wonder if we will see any 4 or even 5 WR sets in an attempt to get the match-up we want?
This is a game where Jared Cook has to be big. Either that or Geronimo! has to come up big.
Yes, Skins TE's had success vs. Giants & may have had even more if Reed was not banged up.
CUPackFan posted:R MaN posted:Giants have a running game the Lions don't have. And wide receivers that can make big time plays. This game makes me nervous.
Giants really don't have much of a running game - they rank 29th in the NFL in total yards and 30th in yards per carry. Their offense is literally OBJ and that's it. Rashad Jennings, Paul Perkins, Sterling Shepard and Victor Cruz aren't keeping MM and Dom up at night.
This game is going to come down to protecting Rodgers, not turning it over, and covering OBJ. They do those three things, I really don't see how the Giants win. Of course as a fan, I can be that arrogant about a win. Packers can't and they won't.
Packers 31 Giants 16
I didn't realize that CU.. I thought they were rushing the ball well against the Redskins.
lame article....
they left out the 37-0 thrashing the Packers put on the NYGs to win the Championship in 1961. And the 16-7 win to capture the 1962 World Championship.
lame writer:
"Perhaps the most compelling issue is this: This time, itâs the Giants who enter the game with the better record, with the âItâ player on their team (Odell Beckham Jr.; sorry, Aaron)"
what? just cuz he's a diva with strange hair? that's ridiculous on many levels.
The GBP Rules posted:Geronimo Allison is going to be on NFL radio on Sirius at 9:30 AM central, if anyone is interested.
No thanks! I will just enjoy watching him play.
Micah was on with Tauscher and Wilde this morning. A few comments from Hyde.
Hyde: Playing on the inside you are more involved in the run game. On the outside, it's more man-to-man. #Packers
â Wilde And Tausch (@WildeAndTausch) January 3, 2017
Hyde: To be honest, there wasn't any panic with the injuries in the secondary. It was stuff we practiced. #Packers
â Wilde And Tausch (@WildeAndTausch) January 3, 2017
Hyde: Through that 4-game losing streak everyone was injured, nothing was clicking. But the mindset was the same. #Packers
â Wilde And Tausch (@WildeAndTausch) January 3, 2017
Hyde: Everyone was thinking we could run the table. Coach McCarthy would give positive speeches and stories, that was his mindset. #Packers
â Wilde And Tausch (@WildeAndTausch) January 3, 2017
