Giants Week!

Giants ranked third in rushing defense. Should be a good test for the OL and Lacy.

IIRC, both Mike Pennel and Demetri Goodson will be coming off suspension next week. That will leave some interesting roster decisions. I wonder who gets shuffled off the 53.

IMO, Cook and Shields too important to IR if they are improving or only appear to be a couple weeks away from playing.

Release the beast!

Michael_Cohen13 1m1 minute ago

No more cast for Jeff Janis. Looks like the broken hand is healed. #Packers

@RobDemovsky 5m5 minutes ago

It appears the Packers have added rookie fullback Joe Kerridge from Michigan to their practice squad. He was on... http://es.pn/2dCN5zo

What's Janis! Record after a bye?

So looks like no Shields & Cook for this week, but CM, Burnett, Jones & Guion back. Would anyone trade those 2 for the 4? 

I believe Pennell has to sit 4 games, correct? I would expect him to be out this week as well. 

Harder to bring down now, eh?

Probably shed another 5 pounds! The weight nazis will be pleased. His thighs are still looking a little chunky, if he doesn't shed it then McCarthy won't go for 2 ever.

No thigh gap, that's for sure

Last question to McCarthy in his presser today was essentially about facing McAdoo who is so familiar and does it change their approach?

Short answer was no. Longer answer he talked about how game planning in 2016 is different than it was in 2015, or 2010. Each team has their process. Ben has his and likely different than what he knows from his time in GB. But the part I liked, was his last comment:

“Makes for great TV… for your camera and all that other nonsense, but it’s not realistic.”

Got a chuckle from the media in the room.

packerboi posted:

Release the beast!

Michael_Cohen13 1m1 minute ago

No more cast for Jeff Janis. Looks like the broken hand is healed. #Packers

Oh yeah!  

Sorry you haters, I was compelled to say that.  It, just like came out.  Could not help myself. 

Short answer was no.

"We do what we do".

I think McCarthy should just start giving nonsense answers to see if people are paying attention.

You mean he doesn't already?

FLPACKER posted:

So looks like no Shields & Cook for this week, but CM, Burnett, Jones & Guion back. Would anyone trade those 2 for the 4? 

CM3 is obviously the most important to get back from a talent perspective, but Shields is arguably more important. Perry played well in his increased role with CM3 out last game. The drop off from Shields to Randall as the #1 CB has been enormous.

Actually, it's Ted Thompson who gives the nonsense non-answers.

It's 2 things. Randall and these corners have to play better. Period. If you re-review any games played thus far, it's not a matter of Randall getting beat because he lacks speed or size. It's because he's peaking at the QB or his fundamentals are sloppy.

Leroy Butler made an interesting observation RE: peaking/risk taking the young CB's regularly do on this team. Charles Woodson taught Shields how to do this and Shields in turn have passed it on to Hayward, Rollins and Randall.

When it pays off, awesome. It's a pick and a hallmark of Capers D (getting turnovers). When it doesn't, these corners are getting burned and paying the price.

The other thing is returning Shields AND Burnett make a big difference. HHCD is a different player and can do things he can't otherwise if Burnett isn't there.

FLPACKER posted:

So looks like no Shields & Cook for this week, but CM, Burnett, Jones & Guion back. Would anyone trade those 2 for the 4? 

Can I mix and match?

On paper, this is a great match-up. Both teams are remarkably similar both on offense and defense.
Eli is piling up passing yards, but they aren't producing any points from it. He is also turning the ball over regularly, averaging 1 INT/game. (Key #1)
They can generate plenty of pressure with their pass rush, but aren't producing many sacks, and have yet to intercept a pass. They are good against the rush, but are allowing around 30 yards more per game than the Packers. (Key #2)

I pray that Dom has some kind of plan to cover OBJ this week, and for God's sake, don't leave Randall isolated on him. (Key #3)
Otherwise, I'm confident we can stop their rush, and produce at least 1 INT. 
Assuming ARod will be on his game, we should be able to score enough points to win.

packerboi posted:

IIRC, both Mike Pennel and Demetri Goodson will be coming off suspension next week. That will leave some interesting roster decisions. I wonder who gets shuffled off the 53.

Believe both received a four-game suspension, so they'll be out one more yet. 

I'm actually more worried about this defense after watching the Bears absolutely shut down Detroit. I was telling myself it was the injuries, but the Packers still had more NFL caliber players on the field last week than the Bears did yesterday.

I watched that game. Stafford played like shi* and no, it wasn't because of the Bores pressure. He just made bone headed plays (e.g. getting a ten yard penalty along with loss of down for throwing 2 yards beyond the LOS) and Eric Ebron, their 10th overall pick at TE, was also turrible. Many drops plus pre-snap penalties.

The whole offense just made a ton of mental errors and as Boris likes to point out, perhaps @GB was their SB/big game and they had a serious hang over coming into CHI.

Multiple reports out today are saying Caldwell's hot seat is on a 10 right now. Some saying he could be fired within the next 2 weeks if the Lions don't win. Which would suck.

You really can't tell much about any team in september.  They're all over the place in performance because it's the new preseason.  How does PIT get trounced by PHI one week then trounce KC the next?  How does NE get shut out vs. BUF?  The D has more good things going for it than bad it's fair to expect them to keep improving.  

I think it was a combination of classic Pad Statford coming back to earth along with the Bears playing about as well as they can.

Pad Statford has a history of following up a good game with a $hitty one.

I think the game vs. the Giants is going to be an instant classic. Will probably come down to the wire who will win.

I'm not crazy about this matchup. Other teams get Manning turnovers but it seems GB tends to squander those chances. Beckham, Cruz, Shepard running free in what is now the weak link of the defense. To win we might need a ton of points.

Giant week can wait. I'm sitting here in a hand knitted Sam Huff jersey. I'm gonna burn this thing in 4 hours. But tonight I'm all Giants. I may do two lines of coke in honor of LT. This is 41-0 replay. 

The Vikings suck. 

Snorting while in a Huff jersey is kind of appropriate.

ChilliJon posted:

Giant week can wait. I'm sitting here in a hand knitted Sam Huff jersey. I'm gonna burn this thing in 4 hours. But tonight I'm all Giants. I may do two lines of coke in honor of LT. This is 41-0 replay. 

The Vikings suck. 

You better do more than 2 lines, Chilli...Vikes already got 7 more points than you hoped for!

It will be a long day at work if they win tonight...

Starting Eli & OBJ in DFS next week. I'm expecting them both to mirror their inner "Matt Ryan & Julio Jones" in Green Bay

Boris posted:

Starting Eli & OBJ in DFS next week. I'm expecting them both to mirror their inner "Matt Ryan & Julio Jones" in Green Bay

Agree. Packers have a way of making struggling QBs look great. Let's hope hfa makes a difference.

F**k the gnats.

If sleEzLIe thought that was a pass rush and run D... It's coming.

Lambeau will not be east-coast friendly. In any sorts.  Frauds.

One thing that surprised me was that the Vikes o-line got the better of the Giants d-line, I expected more of a pass rush. 

I hope that our guys are close enough to Beckham to incite him.....

FLPACKER posted:

One thing that surprised me was that the Vikes o-line got the better of the Giants d-line, I expected more of a pass rush. 

I expected the NYG DLine to hit Bradford a lot more often than they did. Most of the night he felt little pressure.  This may bode well for ARod this week.

packerboi posted:

IIRC, both Mike Pennel and Demetri Goodson will be coming off suspension next week. That will leave some interesting roster decisions. I wonder who gets shuffled off the 53.

IMO, Cook and Shields too important to IR if they are improving or only appear to be a couple weeks away from playing.

Didn't Cook get diagnosed with a high ankle sprain? If it's as bad as the one Montgomery had, he may be done for the season, plus. Another thing that bothers me is that when Shields went down, our secondary play seemed to go belly up. Is losing one guy to blame for that? Was Shields that important at his position that losing him caused the rest of our CBs to be unable to pass protect? If so, I can see at least one CB pick in our draft next year.

I worry about OBJ, not that we can't cover him, but D.C. will not focus any sort of game plan on him and just put Randall 1v1 the whole game.

If we cover OBJ, under 100 and 1 TD, I think we run away with this game pretty easily. 

Eli was terrified of being hit last night. He threw the ball into the ground or away the second he felt some heat. Best way to limit OBJ and Cruz is to speed Elis clock up. 

mrtundra posted:

packerboi posted:

IIRC, both Mike Pennel and Demetri Goodson will be coming off suspension next week. That will leave some interesting roster decisions. I wonder who gets shuffled off the 53.

IMO, Cook and Shields too important to IR if they are improving or only appear to be a couple weeks away from playing.

Didn't Cook get diagnosed with a high ankle sprain? If it's as bad as the one Montgomery had, he may be done for the season, plus. Another thing that bothers me is that when Shields went down, our secondary play seemed to go belly up. Is losing one guy to blame for that? Was Shields that important at his position that losing him caused the rest of our CBs to be unable to pass protect? If so, I can see at least one CB pick in our draft next year.

Typical high ankle sprain is 4-6 weeks, Monty was the exception in that rehab did not correct the problem which led to surgery. Impossible to know if Cook will respond to rehab or not, every situation is different. Similar to when Jordy went out last season, Shields not being there is a domino effect for our secondary, instead of having the #2 WR, Randall now has the #1, Rollins the #2 instead of #3, etc. 

#Packers have scored the fewest amount of 2nd half points in the NFL - only 16. (Although their 59 first half points ranks 4th most)

— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) October 4, 2016

Sixteen points in three games? I can remember when that was a pretty typical quarter. Definitely something for the great offensive minds at 1265 to work on.

But is that ranking taking into account the Packers have played one fewer game than most of the other teams?