Skip to main content

OVERVIEW

King played for former NFL linebacker Hardy Nickerson at Bishop O'Dowd High School in Oakland, so it's not a surprise that he has the skills to play defense at the highest level. He was an honorable mention All-Pac-12 pick at cornerback the past two seasons, using his length to make plays on the ball each season (39 tackles, three interceptions, five pass break-ups in 2015; 44 stops, 3.5 for loss, two interceptions team-high 13 PBUs in 2016). His one-handed interception in the end zone against Arizona State was one of the best plays in college football last fall. King began his career for the Huskies at safety, starting twice as a true freshman (17 tackles) and then 12 of 13 games in 2014 (65 tackles, one INT, three PBU). His senior year was the first time he did not miss games during the season, as he missed five games due to injury and one to illness during his first three years.

ANALYSIS

STRENGTHS

Rare height for the position. Solid job of restricting catch window on routes outside the numbers. Shoves receivers toward boundary and drifts into their running lane to decrease catch opportunity. Length creates challenge for receivers used to winning at the high point. Instinctive with good feel for finding football. Allowed just one touchdown over last 101 targets. Six career interceptions with hands to make the circus pick. Patient from press coverage. Quick to turn and locate once his back is to the quarterback. Saw increase in pass breakups in senior season. Willing to get physical with blocking receivers when it comes time to disengage and make a tackle. Has played all four spots in secondary and slot corner as well.

WEAKNESSES

Timed speed and play speed are both concerns. Sluggish feet in press allow quick-releasers to shoot past him. Unable to find necessary acceleration for functional makeup speed. Hands are flimsy in his jams. Could use more upper body strength. High center of gravity makes sudden change of direction a challenge. NFL ball production could be a concern. Takes path to his man over paths to the ball. Lacks desired twitch for NFL transitioning to the throws. Takes too long from bail technique and backpedal to plant and burst on the ball. Ankle biter willing to engage in too many arm tackles and blind shoulder rolls.

DRAFT PROJECTION

Round 1-2

SOURCES TELL US

"I'm not 100 percent sure what you do with him because he's not a physical tackler, but he's almost too tall to be trusted against shifty receivers. Maybe a team like Seattle, which love those long, press corners. Or you might see a team try and make him a free safety." -- West Coast regional scout for AFC team

NFL COMPARISON

Damian Swann

BOTTOM LINE

Unusually tall cornerback with experience playing in the slot and as a starting safety. Showed improved instincts and ball production in 2016, but there are still concerns about whether he has the athleticism and recovery speed to utilize his length to play the football. Might be best suited to more zone coverage or off-man based on his speed limitations, but in either scheme he'll need to improve his aggressiveness as a tackler.

PLAYER OVERVIEW

With all due respect to Marcus Peters (No. 18 overall in 2015 by Kansas City), Sidney Jones IV and Budda Baker, the most versatile defender in Washington's talent-laden secondary the past few years was King, who reigned regardless of whether he was asked to line up at safety or cornerback.

Though he starred at cornerback in high school, King initially earned playing for the Huskies at safety, starting 14 (including 12 as a sophomore) games over his first two years with the program. He was asked to slide back to cornerback in 2015 after then-new head coach Chris Petersen booted Peters off the team and earned Honorable Mention All-Pac-12 honors with a career high three interceptions and eight passes defensed. While lining up at cornerback (on the perimeter and inside in nickel), King was again voted to the Honorable Mention squad in 2016, despite recording an eye-popping 15 passes defensed, tie for second best in the conference over the regular season.

King's calling card is his versatility. He possesses the size, acceleration, awareness and reliable open-field tackling skills to revert back to free safety at the next level. He is surprisingly agile for a player of his height, however, and could remain at cornerback for a heavy press or zone scheme that features his click-and-close ability.

STRENGTHS WEAKNESSES

STRENGTHS: Offers rare size at cornerback with a lean, tapered frame, including very long limbs. Surprisingly agile in coverage, showing the loose hips to turn and shadow receivers downfield when in press coverage. Will extend an arm but isn't reliant upon landing his initial jam. A cerebral, experienced player often slid inside to play nickel duties against three and four receiver sets. Very good awareness while in zone, anticipating underneath routes and closing quickly downhill to break up passes, often providing a physical pop on contact to jar the ball free. Good hand-eye coordination to sneak his mitt between those of the intended receiver to rip it away as it arrives and has shown good ballskills to record the interception (including a one-handed circus catch in the end zone against Arizona State). Generally a reliable open-field tackler, whose uses his long arms to lasso the legs of ball-carriers. High character player who earned Honorable Mention All-Academic honors as a senior as well as the team's community service award.

WEAKNESSES: Is not as consistently physical as his size and occasional big hits might indicate. Too often seems more interested in ripping at the ball with his tackles and has too many of his tackle attempts broken. More of a grabber as a tackler, rather than consistently hitting, driving and wrapping securely. At his best facing the quarterback. Like a lot of longer cornerbacks, King needs an extra step to change direction, leaving him somewhat vulnerable to smaller, shiftier receivers. Projects best in some schemes to safety, a position he has not played in two years (and was complemented by two stellar cover corners in Peters and Jones when he did play this role).

 

IN OUR VIEW: Though his more touted teammates will likely earn a higher draft pick, King's size, awareness and versatility warrant top 100 consideration. His ability to play multiple roles should help King earn a roster spot in the NFL. His size is both a quality and a curse. While big enough to shrink passing lanes, King will always be vulnerable to shifty route-runners.

 

COMPARES TO: Stanley Jean-Baptiste, Seattle Seahawks: Teams prioritizing length at cornerback will no doubt be intrigued by King's length. Jean-Baptiste has struggled to make an impact in the NFL after the New Orleans Saints made the former Nebraska standout the 58th overall pick of the 2014 draft. King's experience at safety could make his transition to the NFL a smoother one.

 

--Rob Rang (1/16/17)

Last edited by Rusty
Original Post

Replies sorted oldest to newest

I don't think he's physical enough to be in any kind of run support role, I think he's a CB only. Maybe he's a center fielder at S, but really his best spot will be as a perimeter CB covering other teams tall WRs. He's a smooth coverage player, I would liken him more to a tall Patrick Robinson or Tracy Porter.

Last edited by Grave Digger

What I like: We got an extra pick. 

What I don't like: Yet again, we start another season with rookie CBs. I'm too jaded from consistently having rookie and undrafted FAs in our secondary that I can't get excited. 

We needed to spend money for veteran talent at this position. Remember when we spent money on guys like White, Dotson, and Woodson? Good things followed. 

I find it interesting that the Pac 12 plays about as much D as the Big 12, (Which means almost none at all.) yet we keep taking high D draft picks from the Pac 12 almost every year it seems. Also, I understand it can be a lot of political BS, but it's kind of strange that he didn't get picked any higher than honorable mention for the Pac 12 teams the past couple of years.

Oh well, I hope it works out and the kid becomes a baller but I feel about as uninspired by this pick as I did the Kenny Clark pick last year.  

Last edited by Maxi54

The Packers did not need a versatile defensive back with this pick.  Last thing they needed was a guy who would end up in the slot (likely where Rollins will end up as he has issues with speed on the outside).  They needed a guy who can be depended on to line up on outside receivers and stick to them.  IMO that was the very small difference maker between King and Awuzie.  While Awuzie has good enough height (5-11 7/8), his average vertical (34.5) and short arm length (30 5/8) might cause him to have some problems with the bigger receivers.  Not saying that a bean-pole like King will be immune to getting shoved around by bigger players, but I think he has a slightly better chance at matching up outside against the big fast guys than Awuzie does.  My guess is that what made the difference in Thompson's eyes.  However, if King would have gotten picked between #29 and #32, I'd guess Thompson probably would have gone with Awuzie and been perfectly happy doing so (definitely stick with CB, Awuzie the favorite but maybe Quincy Wilson instead).

Picking what position Thompson was going to go with was not hard.  Figuring out which cornerback he'd favor over the others was pretty tough.  Lots of really talented guys that fit Thompson's preferred profile for CBs.

I absolutely agree with you guys that Clark had a good year. Especially since he's still so young and the NT position takes some time to grow into. I think long term he's going to be a good player. Just something about the pick that makes me feel kind of, "meh" about it. Let's hope the King pick turns out more in line with Clark's start than Datone Jone's time with the pack.

I don't, "hate" the King pick by any means. More like a wait and see and hope it works out feeling.

Last edited by Maxi54
Maxi54 posted:

Also, I understand it can be a lot of political BS, but it's kind of strange that he didn't get picked any higher than honorable mention for the Pac 12 teams the past couple of years.

  

I wouldn't say politics but there are some biases that will always be built into that type of system which won't necessarily lead to the right players getting votes.

A great player at Southern California will generally get consideration over a great player from Washington State.

A great player who is a senior will generally get consideration over a great player who is a freshman.

If a guy has a great sophomore year and slumps a bit as a junior, he's likely to get more consideration as a junior than a different player who is having a better season just because the first guy has the bigger name from the previous year.

Sometimes in a down year at a position, players from a school with a reputation of having great players at a position will get consideration they shouldn't. 

Not sure if any of these would apply to King, but it sure didn't help him that Sidney Jones was also a CB with a much bigger name and was playing on the same team.

PackerJoe posted:
Maxi54 posted:

Also, I understand it can be a lot of political BS, but it's kind of strange that he didn't get picked any higher than honorable mention for the Pac 12 teams the past couple of years.

  

I wouldn't say politics but there are some biases that will always be built into that type of system which won't necessarily lead to the right players getting votes.

 

I understand and agree with everything you said here Joe. I just thought he would have at least made 2nd team All Pac-12. In the greater scheme of things these awards really don't mean a damn thing. Like I said, I'm pulling for the kid and I hope he ends up being a great CB/pick for the Pack.

Pikes Peak posted:
BrainDed posted:

Underwhelming.   

So now that we've added House and our top pick as a CB is it safe to say we are admitting Randall / Rollins picks were not so hot?

You may be on to something

Disagree.

You build a team with outstanding DB'S 

Need more than 2 or 4 or 6. Need 10!!

Passing league. Stop the pass, win the game.

Anyone that thinks differently has no fukking clue what they're talking about. PERIOD!

Maxi54 posted:

I absolutely agree with you guys that Clark had a good year. Especially since he's still so young and the NT position takes some time to grow into. I think long term he's going to be a good player. Just something about the pick that makes me feel kind of, "meh" about it. Let's hope the King pick turns out more in line with Clark's start than Datone Jone's time with the pack.

I don't, "hate" the King pick by any means. More like a wait and see and hope it works out feeling.

If Bob McGinn thinks King is a first rounder, that's good enough for me.

Kudos to TT, we all knew that TT wasn't going to go out and spend $20m fixing the coverage issues, but he has attempted to address it by adding King, Jones and House.  There are a lot of questions about the guys coming back  as well as the new guys, but barring injuries, there should be a lot of competition in camp this year and that is good.

Maxi54 posted:

I absolutely agree with you guys that Clark had a good year. Especially since he's still so young and the NT position takes some time to grow into. I think long term he's going to be a good player. Just something about the pick that makes me feel kind of, "meh" about it. Let's hope the King pick turns out more in line with Clark's start than Datone Jone's time with the pack.

I don't, "hate" the King pick by any means. More like a wait and see and hope it works out feeling.

Honestly, I think as fans we've gotten to the point where it feels the Packers are constantly chasing to catch up on defense.  So every pick starts to become more "meh".  On paper it's the right pick, well gambled on, yielding another pick.  I don't think anyone gets really excited about a defensive player over the last 7 years.  The last guy I was primed over, Perry.  Now I look at a guy that finally parlayed a solid season into a big contract and still have questions he'll produce like that again.  

 

There is talent on this defense to be at least middle of the pack even with the losses like Shields.  The thing that will get me most excited is a subtraction from the booth.  Until then we can sign/pick every super greatest player of all time and probably expect them to under perform.  

To be honest it's kind of taken the fun out of the draft.  

Clark was incredible in the Cowboys game, made even more impressive since he was going against the best OL in football.  No NT is going to be a "splash" pick but if Clark plays like he did against the Cowboys every game, he is a big time difference maker.  With him drawing double teams in the middle, it limits the ability of a OL to double team Daniels.  That kind of pressure in the middle kills an offense - just ask Tom Brady in Super Bowl XLII.  I'm pretty excited to see what Clark does in his second season.  

CAPackfan posted:

I don't hate Watt, but I didn't want a tweener OLB with 3 knee surgeries in the 1st Rd

I could see where maybe the Packers having been burned by injury prone guys before might have dropped Watt a peg just because they didn't trust the knee issues.  That said, he played 14 games last year and looked fantastic.  If he does stay healthy, I think the Steelers will have gotten a very good and possibly great player.

Under TTs watch in Seattle they selected Ken Hamlin and Marcus Trufant and Ken Lucas.  Three decent corners. 

In GB, the Packers selected Collins, Burnett, Clinton-Dix, Casey Hayward, Davon House, and Randall and Rollins.  The jury is still out on the last two guys.  Not counting Shields or Tramon but TT brought them in as well. 

About the only pure miss I can think of is Aaron Rouse. 

Now,  DL under Thompson's tenure is a different story!! 

Living out here in Seahawk land,  and listening to local media in order to catch the draft, I can tell you they really liked King. Husky homers maybe. But he was to be the heir apparent to Richard Sherman. Once we made the pick, the Hawks traded down and out of their spot right behind Green Bay, dejected and depressed. Which makes the pick all the more rewarding.

I know they bought House insurance, but I'm guessing King will be in the lineup earlier than later. For that matter, he could line up opposite House if the other young guys continue to struggle. I would have loved to see a later pick used to get ahead of Dallas and get Awuzie with the second pick, which could have made the defensive backfield even stronger than it is now. 

Grave Digger posted:

I don't think he's physical enough to be in any kind of run support role, I think he's a CB only. Maybe he's a center fielder at S, but really his best spot will be as a perimeter CB covering other teams tall WRs. He's a smooth coverage player, I would liken him more to a tall Patrick Robinson or Tracy Porter.

What do you base that on?

So it's Kevin Kings B-Day. (Mike Daniels too) and HaHa stays in GB to take King and Josh Jones out to dinner. 

Mike Daniels@mike_daniels76

Mad respect for my bro @haha_cd6 !! A true leader on our team, welcoming @King_kevvoo & @JoshJones11_ the right way #GodBless #GoPackGo

I'm telling you. HaHa is becoming the leader of this defense. And this is a very good thing. 

pablopackerfan posted:
Grave Digger posted:

I don't think he's physical enough to be in any kind of run support role, I think he's a CB only. Maybe he's a center fielder at S, but really his best spot will be as a perimeter CB covering other teams tall WRs. He's a smooth coverage player, I would liken him more to a tall Patrick Robinson or Tracy Porter.

What do you base that on?

My eyes. Being physical with receivers is not the same as being physical against the run, which I don't feel King was in college. The point of that post was that King wasn't (and isn't) a hybrid CB/Safety, he's a CB only IMO. That was in contrast to guys like Awuzie, who played multiple positions. I'm happy with King, he's not going to remind anyone of Charles Woodson in terms of supporting the run or versatility, but that's not what they need honestly. They have other versatile guys like Burnett, Josh Jones, Randall, and Rollins who can play all over the field. If all King does is play perimeter CB and shut WRs down like Dick Sherman then the pick was worth it.

ChilliJon posted:

So it's Kevin Kings B-Day. (Mike Daniels too) and HaHa stays in GB to take King and Josh Jones out to dinner. 

Mike Daniels@mike_daniels76

Mad respect for my bro @haha_cd6 !! A true leader on our team, welcoming @King_kevvoo & @JoshJones11_ the right way #GodBless #GoPackGo

I'm telling you. HaHa is becoming the leader of this defense. And this is a very good thing. 

Is that a mudslide?    Cut that pansy now. 

Add Reply

×
×
×
×
Link copied to your clipboard.
×