Green Bay Packers vs San Francisco 49ers Divisional Playoff Official Game Thread

@Timpranillo posted:

Easy to say, but when you trot out a bunch of UDFA that cannot get open, he really has no options.

But, again, in 2020, when given the opportunity to draft help in the most WR draft in ages, they drafted the 6th best QB in the Mountain West conference and a TE that was projected to be there 3 rounds later.

3-5 years from now, after Jordan Love wins between 3 and 6  games a year during that time frame, the decisions in that draft and the decisions that lead to hiring the special teams coaches in the first three years of his head coaching career will be what define the MLF/Gutey era.

You know they are both getting fired in the next 3-5 years.

They drafted a QB that they knew wasn't going to play and a TE that can't catch using their 1st, 3rd, and 4th round picks.

If McGinn or Christl were still reporting, there'd have been more accountability on special teams (or they've have been kicked out of the Packers facilities for aggressively asking questions about it).

@Herschel posted:

And yet the defense had a chance to be the winning unit and failed. Letting the defense off the hook is Vikings fans "But we lost most games by single digits" bullshit. The game was on the line, and instead of being the unit that gave them the chance to win late they failed.

The defense should have never been on the field. Rodgers forces an uncatchable ball to Adams on 2nd down because he thinks a backup db can't cover him and it's a shit throw by Rodgers and then he decides tho throw a hail mary to Adams on third down instead of trying to get a first down. Rodgers = Favre. Failure in the clutch.

@Tschmack posted:

Turner is a RT after all.  And a good one.  Nijman more than held his own at LT.  

Stupid is as stupid does.  

This

Don’t forget, the “only 10 on the field” was AFTER a timeout.

@Henry posted:

You mean like having a QB with three INTs and still going on to win the Super Bowl?

I cut the defense more slack because they were obviously gassed but you either win tooth, claw and nail or you don't.

They didn't.

The Special Teams was certainly a bigger cluster, and the offense did them no favors while floundering in the second half, but the offense also shouldn't have to be the unit to bail out the others in every playoff game.

LaFleur also doesn't get a pass. Shanahan adjusted far better as the game went on.

This was a gigantic bucket of fail on every level, and none deserve a pass.

@Harry Manback posted:

If Drayton isn’t the first person to hit the road on the Packers, I will have lost a lot of respect for MLF. What a ducking embarrassment.  He’s perhaps even more infamous than Bostick, and I didn’t believe that was possible.  He needs to GTFO and never show his face again.

Out of Slocum, Zook, Menenga, and many other complete failures the Pack has had coaching special teams, Drayton is the worst.  As bad as he is... maybe like others have said, the real problems are the people that actually decided letting him take the reins was actually a good idea.  I love Matt LaFleur, but that decision to go with Drayton is mostly on his head and it's going to haunt him. 

Rodgers had his magical mystery tour this year and it amounted to the same shit of him coming up short in the playoffs. Yes the special teams sucked but a regular offense could have put this away. It’s done. Time to reshape the franchise. Keeping Rodgers isn’t going to do anyone a world of good.   Move forward and deal with it.

@Herschel posted:

Except they gave up the game-winning drive and didn't get the turnovers on the opportunities they were given. They are not excused in this mess.

The defense was the least offensive part of this team today. They balled out. All props to them. ST sucked and the last dance offense fails to seal the deal yet again.

@YooperPackfan posted:

Exactly what I said when Thompson stepped down and they announced the new arrangement

Judge Parins would have done better in terms of not meddling with special teams hires.

@vitaflo posted:

Not this shit again.

You could say the exactly same thing about your forcing the ball to Adams comment.

Don't tell me Rodgers isn't spreading the ball around if legit WR are getting open.  The defense honed in on Adams and Cobb.  Then Mayo put Jones out at WR, which was a good move.  When that happens, it's fucking 2018 again.

Oh but the stats and the catch or the this that and the other about the WR corp.

Play consistently.

Same fucking shit with the interior.  Biggest plays came with OLBs playing in the middle.

Division Winning Town!  These are not playoff caliber players.

Two back to back once in a lifetime QBs over 30 years and only two SB wins to show for it. Maybe the Packers should spend more time on their team and less time buying up old ladies' ranch houses around Lambeau to build a shitty amusement park.

@Goalline posted:

Well, the special teams is run by a high school coach.

I think there are probably hundreds of high school coaches that can do better.  He’s a  disgrace.

@YooperPackfan posted:

Why not this shit again? This could be a bigger blunder than not drafting you know Watt and people sure as hell won’t let that rest

Could of, would of, should of.  They were the #1 seed with the guys they had this year.  Who gives a shit about a draft?

He has the same options on offense he had all year and instead of using them he's force feeding it to Adams all game.  Where the hell was Lazard or Cobb?  Where was the motion used all year long?  Why wasn't anything schemed open? If the SF front 4 were going nuts why weren't there any screens?  Why was Rodgers holding the ball forever waiting for Adams to get open when he wasn't doing that all year up to this point?

It's like when we get to the playoffs MLF and Rodgers go full retard.

Your anger is misdirected- gutey is NOT the problem here - he kept this team winning this year are you kidding me? 59 29 Kelly he had a good draft - this is on 12 mlf for the st shit show - 2 was clearly done he should have brought up Molson and didn’t have the balls - let’s be clear 12 and st screwed this up - a50 million$ qb wins that game

@artis posted:

The defense was the least offensive part of this team today. They balled out. All props to them. ST sucked and the last dance offense fails to seal the deal yet again.

That's like saying the Clap is the best STI. Sure, it's not herpes, but you're still peeing fire.

Yeah the playcalling was atrocious after the fumble by Big Dog

@vitaflo posted:

Could of, would of, should of.  They were the #1 seed with the guys they had this year. 

You hit the most relevant point.

@Herschel posted:

And yet the defense had a chance to be the winning unit and failed. Letting the defense off the hook is Vikings fans "But we lost most games by single digits" bullshit. The game was on the line, and instead of being the unit that gave them the chance to win late they failed.

How many points did special teams give up?

I am leaving it at this.

It is inexcusable if MLF cannot announce tomorrow that Drayton and all ST coaches have been relieved. Don’t even comment that they will review the tape, do individual evaluations, and season ending meetings.  You don’t need to review that ST shit-show performance.

Rodgers deserves some blame for not finding anyone except Adams  

Special teams lost the game but Rodgers didn’t do anything special to win it in a big game Again !  

Deguara cost us a drive for a second score early

Special  teams. Omg.  We have wirtel number 46 getting blown back by a 300 pound plus lineman?

Several chances to take control in the second half all failed     First and goal at the seven and we only get 3.    Should have been 14-3   Play calling penalty, poor throw to Jones and a sack.  

@pkr_north posted:

Your anger is misdirected- gutey is NOT the problem here - he kept this team winning this year are you kidding me? 59 29 Kelly he had a good draft - this is on 12 mlf for the st shit show - 2 was clearly done he should have brought up Molson and didn’t have the balls - let’s be clear 12 and st screwed this up - a50 million$ qb wins that game

2 was at fault for the line allowing a guy to come up the middle free to block a FG?

@R MaN posted:

How many points did special teams give up?

So if Specials Teams fails then the defense doesn't have to make a stop at the end? No unit gets a pass on this failure.

But I can enjoy the superbowl without stress. I hate stress.

Jimmy Garoppolo, in two playoff wins against the Packers:

17 of 27, 208 yards, 0 TD, 1 INT. 71.2,QB Rating.

Rodgers didn’t play great, but considering the conditions, and the number of players out (Bakhtiari and Jenkins, an All Pro LT and Pro Powl LG, MVS, Robert Tonyan, AJ Dillon), and going against that defense, I just can’t put the majority of the blame on him. He played well enough to win, just as he did last year against Tampa Bay. Yet he lost both games. Jimmy G and Brady (the GOAT my ass, how does he get a pass throwing 3 INT in the NFC CG?) played poorly, and they won.

Rodgers didn’t fumble the ball. Mercedes Lewis, who is older than dirt, did. He didn’t drop a wide open pass that would have been a huge first down. Deguara did.

Rodgers gets blamed for a lot of our playoff defeats, but should he be? How many times has somebody on this team let the team down? As soon as that field goal was blocked…badly, I knew we were in trouble.

Coming into tonight’s game, the Packer defense had given up an average of 35 PPG in our losses with Rodgers.

The final play of Rodgers time in Green Bay wasn’t a pick like it was with Fabre, but a desperation heave into double coverage when a first down would have moved the chains, and ate up the clock, was nearly as bad.

Seven NFL MVPs between Favre and Rodgers, and we’ll get two Super Bowls out of it. And now, we won’t have Rodgers making this team look better than it is. Does anybody expect Love to be a great quarterback? I haven’t seen anything from him.

This just sucks.

@WolfPack posted:

If Rodgers walks, sign Russell wilson and keep Adams

Hahahah.  You think Adams is coming back to this shit show without his boy?   Pass over whatever you’re smoking.  

Game fucking Over.   It’s Jordan Love time and it ain’t going to be pretty.

I don’t think I’ve ever been this legitimately upset at the end of a season, even in the NFCC blowouts.

We’ve know for over two months that Drayton needed to be fired or the season would end based on his ineptness. And MLF’s refusals to do anything about it just torpedoed the future of the franchise.

@Herschel posted:

So if Specials Teams fails then the defense doesn't have to make a stop at the end? No unit gets a pass on this failure.

The defense gave up 6 points.

Ugh. I think it would have felt better to be blown out my the Niners than to lose under such stupid circumstances.

We heard all about SF's great running game, how great Deebo was, all about the front seven, and how great Kittle was. We pretty much handled all of that, and did alright on offense (given the conditions) and had the game decided by our special teams who played horribly.

What a way to end the Rodgers era. We probably won't see another quarterback like that in Green Bay for quite a while.

@Timpranillo posted:

Easy to say, but when you trot out a bunch of UDFA that cannot get open, he really has no options.

But, again, in 2020, when given the opportunity to draft help in the most WR draft in ages, they drafted the 6th best QB in the Mountain West conference and a TE that was projected to be there 3 rounds later.

If anyone saw Tee Higgins go off as Cincy's 2nd WR today in the Bengals win in Tennessee and did not think to themselves boy he sure would look good playing WR in Lambeau tonight instead of slow as molasses UDFA Alan Lazard and Gutey's pet ESB who somehow has managed to maintain a roster spot despite producing nothing for 4 years, then they must have a Gutey blow up doll somewhere nearby to entertain themselves with.

Unless Jordan Love wins a SB, the 2020 draft will go down in Packer lore as a massive failure to rival the Mandarich pick.

Hope

Rams win tomorrow and spank the Niners at home

@Henry posted:

You could say the exactly same thing about your forcing the ball to Adams comment.

Don't tell me Rodgers isn't spreading the ball around if legit WR are getting open.  The defense honed in on Adams and Cobb.  Then Mayo put Jones out at WR, which was a good move.  When that happens, it's fucking 2018 again.

Oh but the stats and the catch or the this that and the other about the WR corp.

Play consistently.

Same fucking shit with the interior.  Biggest plays came with OLBs playing in the middle.

Division Winning Town!  These are not playoff caliber players.

When he threw to Lewis, the ball got stripped free. When he threw it to Deguara on a high leverage pass play that should have been a first down, he dropped it.

If I’m a QB, and the guys other than Adams are not getting open, and not holding on to the ball, I’m a bit less inclined to throw to them.

@tsr86free posted:

Cue the 1970s and 1980s?

As much as I want to believe we'll never see that level of ineptness again, just having seen how the team has performed in the last 10 years when Rodgers was not the QB shows just how much he has carried the team. 

He was extremely mediocre tonight, unfortunately many of his teammates and coaches were worse than mediocre.  The playoffs the last 10 years have sort of been a perpetual sequel of a horror movie where they invent new ways to lose every year, just crazy. 

@R MaN posted:

The defense gave up 6 points.

tHe DeFeNsE gAvE uP sIx PoInTs

The score was tied, the defense gave up the game-winning drive. "They played well for 54 minutes" is some "They've lost most games by single digits" Vikings fan nonsense.

@YATittle posted:

Hope

Rams win tomorrow and spank the Niners at home

I'm down with that.

@fightphoe93 posted:

Out of Slocum, Zook, Menenga, and many other complete failures the Pack has had coaching special teams, Drayton is the worst.  As bad as he is... maybe like others have said, the real problems are the people that actually decided letting him take the reins was actually a good idea.  I love Matt LaFleur, but that decision to go with Drayton is mostly on his head and it's going to haunt him.

After the Rizzi thing do we even know if Mayo has full say on his coaching staff?  I'm going on the assumption he made the hire and therefore deserves the blame but that question isn't unreasonable.

@lambeausouth posted:

When he threw to Lewis, the ball got stripped free. When he threw it to Deguara on a high leverage pass play that should have been a first down, he dropped it.

If I’m a QB, and the guys other than Adams are not getting open, and not holding on to the ball, I’m a bit less inclined to throw to them.

I remember just 3 or 4 weeks ago Deguara looking pathetic on a sure TD pass that went right through his hands.  Now in a key moment of today's game he dropped a perfect pass.

Sure, he had the nice TD run vs. Detroit, but some of the other things show that this is a guy that cannot be counted on in a crucial moment.  Robert Tonyan's injury that caused him to miss this game, really showed up tonight, all the TEs looked overmatched.

I can't believe there are people here arguing that the defense is responsible for this loss.

Packers wearing zero Packers gear in the presser and opting for a $10,000 Prada bomber jacket instead. He’s gone.

2 has been a problem all year same with LS and the whole lot of them - every time they take the field you shot your pants in fear - it just actually lost for us tonight when it counted - same as bostick - at least it was earlier than the championship game this year

@pkr_north posted:

Your anger is misdirected- gutey is NOT the problem here - he kept this team winning this year are you kidding me? 59 29 Kelly he had a good draft - this is on 12 mlf for the st shit show - 2 was clearly done he should have brought up Molson and didn’t have the balls - let’s be clear 12 and st screwed this up - a50 million$ qb wins that game

Gutey is not the problem, agreed. MurphyBallz is incompetent.  The board of directors are a bunch of rich bitches who couldn’t care less as long as their pockets are lined.  I almost wish we weren’t Community owned.  A single owner might hold feet to the fire and demand more accountability.