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Vikings' Greg Jennings: 'Christian (Ponder) has tremendous upside'
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By Bob Sansevere

You played with, potentially, two Hall of Fame quarterbacks. Christian Ponder is trying to ascend to where they've already been. When you came here, did you have an expectation that you would have to work with Christian and tell him some things to do?
GJ: When you talk about comparing quarterbacks, it's hard to compare guys. I'll take Brett. He did it for so long. I got there in a period of time where Brett already was there (as an elite quarterback). Then the guy they have now, he sat behind Brett and he learned so much. Christian didn't really have that opportunity. He had to jump in. The way you compare them has to be a little different. The guy they have now (Rodgers) was (essentially) a veteran rookie. It's a little different, but Christian has tremendous upside. I think what I see now is a quarterback who's maturing and who's growing and wanting to learn and grow, which is huge.

BS: A lot of guys can't wait to play their ex-team. Do you have anything you want to show or prove to the Packers?
GJ: I move on. There's no love lost. It's a business. Obviously, it's one of those situations where I'm going to enjoy playing them. At the same time, I don't have them on my to-do list, like, "Oh, man, I can't wait to get to that game." continue
I didn't see any video so it may be out of context, but boy does that read bitter. Sure seems like he can't even bring himself to say Rodgers name. Not to mention the answer doesn't really seem to match the question that was being asked.
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Gee... I wonder who a guy I now hate bent his ear to over the past year or so...

Let's see... comes in as a rookie from a small school, gets to work with a legend, worships the ground he walks on... saw this guy he was in awe of rightfully get the boot when it was time pitch a fit and go on a pathetic vendetta that ended in failure...



Oh well. He'll be looking for work in 2-3 years after sitting in the tub for a chunk of every season and eating bad stats with Captain Worm-Burner skipping passes to him.

Fine.

Let the monkey poop fight begin.
Considering his injury history and Ponder's limited ability, Greg will be extremely lucky to be able to go very far north of 700 yards and 6 TDs. I have a feeling that it will all be downhill from that, he'll be extremely lucky to last more than 3 seasons with the Vikings at his salary. I had a strong hunch last year that his sister's dumb **** on Twitter last year didn't just develop out of thin air (Gregie-Poo was crying to his family about not getting enough balls his way), and this trash interview just confirmed it. **** him.
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Originally posted by titmfatied:

GJ: the guy they have now, he sat behind Brett and he learned so much. Christian didn't really have that opportunity. He had to jump in. The guy they have now (Rodgers) was (essentially) a veteran rookie.



Ha Ha !

Apparently Gerg wasn't paying attention during his rise to fame in GB: not only can we say "X4 never forgets" - Aaron Rodgers never forgets either. Those cheap digs will not go unnoticed

I also appreciated his comments about how he hasn't circled those dates on the calendar..riiiiiiiight...maybe because he knows he's going to get smoked

Enjoy Choketown
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Originally posted by cuqui:
Still telling to me that Joe Philbin in Miami never really made a play for Jennings.
Yes, he's another Antonio Freeman. Jennings certainly has a better work ethic, but not much more talent than him.
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Greg Jennings responds to Green Bay Packers jokesters
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The Green Bay Packers have been having some fun at Greg Jennings' expense ever since the veteran wide receiver signed with the Minnesota Vikings in March.

Quarterback Aaron Rodgers entertained the crowd at the Wisconsin Sports Awards in April when he answered a question about Jennings with, "Who?"

Wide receiver James Jones joined the fun Wednesday when he was asked what it's like not to have Jennings and Donald Driver around.

"Yeah, those are my dogs," Jones said, via the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel. "But I don't like Greg no more. He left us. But 'D-Drive' is my dog."

The Packers' comments seem to be lighthearted jabs, but they may have succeeded in ruffling Jennings' feathers.

Asked about the comparison between Rodgers, Brett Favre and Christian Ponder, Jennings replied, via the St. Paul Pioneer Press, "I'll take Brett. He did it for so long. I got there in a period of time where Brett already was there (as an elite quarterback). Then the guy they have now, he sat behind Brett and he learned so much."

"The guy they have now"? Jennings already has forgotten the name of the quarterback who took the Packers to the team's Super Bowl XLV victory? We can't wait to hear what he has in store for Jones.
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Have to wonder if Bob Sansevere, who wrote the original article, was the real **** stirrer. No mention if Greg was joking or not and slipped it into the middle of an interview with serious questions.
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Originally posted by JJSD:
Let the monkey poop fight begin.


There will be no monkey poop fight. AR will say nothing that will add to this and the chip that initially formed in Butte and grew when he fell into TT's lap will only grow more.
Sisters tweet, recent comments. It's pretty clear he believes he played a huge role in making AR a star and the Packers reward AR with all the money and send him elsewhere. Misguided bitterness.

And the organizational comparison to AR having time to "learn so much" and Ponder being forced to "jump in" is a couple of things:

1. Bull***t. What AR learned was done on his own. From MM, Philbin, and Clements. He didn't learn s**t from Brett. Except what not to do.

2. A reflection of a team that understands the concept of draft and develop and a team that rolls the dice on a 38 year old gunslinger hell bent on revenge who spent his final year not even wanting to be there. Ponder not having any time to learn is 100% on the Vikings for having crappy plans.

Tough to watch Greg act like this thinking back to his reaction after Williams knocked down Ben's 4th down pass in Dallas. But whatever, what's done is done. Time to move on.
“I think what I see now is a quarterback who’s maturing and who’s growing and wanting to learn and grow, which is huge.”

aaaa hahahahahahaha. if that’s huge then GOOD LUCK!
Gerg, do you think Bert or Ponder could have tossed that terrific third-down pass to you during the SB to basically salt the game away? Didn't think so. You can thank "the guy they got now" for the Super Bowl ring on your hand -- the only one you'll probably ever have. You are now officially joining Bert's Legacy Trashing Network. Let your play do the talking, if it can.
To play devil's advocate a little, Gerg has always seemed a guy says things to the media with tongue firmly in cheek...just like James Jones did/does. And really, how cool is it for him to compliment the QB of his new team's biggest rival? Is he supposed to talk about all the great things Rodgers accomplished in the same breath as he talks about how Ponder has potential? I wouldn't be cool with that if I was his teammate. And he probably still has a solid relationship with Brett (who probably isn't keen on Rodgers) so all of those factors together it was probably smart of him to say what he said. He propped up his QB, complimented his former former QB, and dissed his teams rival. I wouldn't read much into it. Seems like a reported trying to drum up some controversy. Gerg is right though, Rodgers learned a lot from Brett...he learned how to NOT throw idiotic interceptions, he learned how to NOT play in the playoffs, and biggest of all he learned how to NOT conduct himself off the field both as a professional and as a man. I think we owe Brett some gratitude for helping shape Rodgers into the anti-Brett.

That said, I do think it's clear Gerg didn't want to be in GB. GB reportedly offered him a solid deal and gave him a better chance for another ring, but he opted to move on. Oh well, nice knowing you Gerg. Can't wait to see Casey Hayward and Sam Shields shut you down while Clay and Datone drive your QB into the ground!
The only thing weirder is Queensryche fans picking sides 15 years after DeGarmo left. Rodgers started the "who?" tounge-in cheek, Jennings play politics for his current team and it's a business. Mole hill.
From that audio Gerg sounded kind of bitter about the parting of ways. Just speculation, but I wonder if the team didn't make as strong an effort to re-sign as the media reported. Like they offered him a deal that insulting to him, giving him the impression that they weren't serious about bringing him back. Again just speculation, but I believe they did want him back just not at the price Gerg had in his mind. Cobb's performance this year made it easier and easier to stick to that offer.
I don't think they'll ever back up the Brinks truck for any WR barring the development of someone who is truly special. As long as AR is in his prime, they'll offer their WR's decent/fair money but money that won't be what other teams offer in UFA. They'll just keep cycling young guys through the system, develop them and let them go for younger/cheaper options.

If any of the young guys show that they belong this year, you may not see Jones back next year. If they develop another young guy next year, you may not see Jordy come back. I don't think you'll ever see the GBP completely devalue WR's, but IMHO there's a limit to what they'll spend knowing that AR is a guy who makes them better.
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Originally posted by Tdog:
I thought I read once that the contract he signed with the queens was actually less than what the Pack had offered him prior to FA...??


See I don't think that was true. I think it was just like the Steven Jackson games that were played, Gerg wanted to go elsewhere so his agent puts out this bogus information about GB offering a ton of money. Gerg seems to believe that GB didn't want him back and seemed to indicate the only discussions that were had were before the 2012 season. Which fits better with what GB actually likes to do...I thought it was fishy that they would offer so much money for an older WR coming off an injury.
Possibly, but it's a bit early to tell. Cobb's certainly got a chance. He may get that nice/reasonable second contract like Jennings, Jordy and Jones did, but by then we'll know what level he's reached.

Sure, there could be guys who take less to stay, but my point is that the team is most likely not going to bust the cap for a WR. That's going to lead to some butthurt like what we're seeing from Gerg now.
There were multiple and credible media reports that Greg refused a larger offer from the Packers earlier. He rolled the dice and came up empty.

His refusal to refer to AR by name certainly is strange.
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Gerg has always seemed a guy says things to the media with tongue firmly in cheek


This is all in fun. Something for you guys to talk about during the next 7 weeks until TC starts
Well, I just got reminded of his play in the SB win. And he did seem a fine team mate.

I wonder if his experience in the last 1-2 years, including not receiving an offer enough to his liking to sign with the Packers, soured him.
In the audio it seems he's totally dissing Rodgers by not mentioning him, and not in a tongue-in-cheek way. He also reveals a bit when he says he was always headed for free agency anyway. For whatever reason, he just wanted out and TT gave it to him. I don't think GB really stood a chance of resigning him unless they came up with a top-top-dollar figure. He went where he got some dough and where he thought he could be the BMOF (Big Man on the Field). We'll see.
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Originally posted by michiganjoe:
There were multiple and credible media reports that Greg refused a larger offer from the Packers earlier. He rolled the dice and came up empty.


Same thing with Steven Jackson. It's a game agents play and I don't think any info came from GB regarding an offer to Gerg. Agent puts out information that GB, a team that is notoriously discreet with the media, has made a large offer to his client and then his client accepts a lesser offer with another team "because he just wants to win a SB". And Steven Jackson and Gerg Jennings look like solid team players because they took less money to be where they are...even though they probably didn't take less money. I'm not saying GB didn't offer Gerg more money, but I think the Steven Jackson misinformation was telling about how agents like to use the media and honestly it just doesn't fit with their style of team building. Signing an oft injured 30+ receiver to huge money when you have 3 younger, cheaper, and arguably just as capable receivers on the roster doesn't seem like a Ted Thompson move.
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