He's beginning to sound a lot like Favre. Screw him. Time to move on. I just can't wait till the Packers play the Vikings again. At least this adds to the rivalry.
McCarthy today in his 1st presser of the season: "When you put on that purple, something happens to you. "
That is great!
Originally Posted by Hungry5:
McCarthy today in his 1st presser of the season: "When you put on that purple, something happens to you. "
You know you're making better money at the end of your career and you'd better hope you already have a ring.
I see part of MM's quote is already here.
Here's the full:
"Well, you know, when you put on that purple, something happens to you. (laughter) I don’t know. Greg was a great player for us, we had a lot of great moments, and he was fun to coach."
MM & TT: they don't even know where the low road is they've been on the high road so long.
MM & TT: they don't even know where the low road is they've been on the high road so long.
Here it is!
Originally Posted by heyward:
Originally Posted by Ryan Grant:
I had no idea Greg was such a self-centered attention whore. He must have been really upset when he realized that Cobb is already better that he ever was and #18 is ascending and Greg is descending....
Not true. Jennings was a great receiver for a number of seasons. Cobb may eventually get to that level or even exceed it, but he's not there yet.
I disagree. Cobb is already at that level. OK he may not be better than Jennings ever was yet, but he is certainly a more vluable player than Jennings. He matched Jennings best total ever for catches last year (80) and when you throw in his rushing and return yards, he produced nearly twice the total yards (2342) than Jennings season high of 1292. Yes Greg was a very good receiver, just not nearly as good as he thinks he was.
I listened to Jennings first interview with Jim Rome after he signed with the vikings. What he said shocked me. He said (paraphrasing) that GB has so much young talent that Rodgers needs to spread it around, and that it would be hard for him (Jennings) to get the numbers. IOW, he was jealous of the fact that there were other good receivers on the Packers. I had never thought of Jennings as being a "Me first" type of player, but I guess I was wrong. He should fit in well up in MN since he's now with another big Me First player (AD).
A note: earlier today on KFAN here in the Twin Cities, one of the beat reporters said that several people in the media here and in GB he's talked to agree that Rodgers has changed a lot. According to him, they all say that he is much more likely to snipe at guys who make a mistake, and that Rodgers will make comments like "That's a stupid question" when guys near him are being interviewed. The guy also implied Rodgers has become much more self-centered and sarcastic as time has gone on.
Take it with a grain of salt and consider the source, but it was an interesting note. Frankly, I'm not sure there's a pro athlete out there who is not self-centered and who doesn't act differently in the locker room than in public.
According to him, they all say that he is much more likely to snipe at guys who make a mistake, and that Rodgers will make comments like "That's a stupid question" when guys near him are being interviewed. The guy also implied Rodgers has become much more self-centered and sarcastic as time has gone on.
oh boo freaking hoo. you mean after 7 years in the NFL AR gets sick of the same old tired freaking questions from the press? boohoo. just what I need, armchair psych from radio jocks. boo freaking hoo. (this disdain is not directed at you my fine lady Fandame).
Havel and his cohort on the radio made a good point on the way home today: where's all the bad mouthing from Tom Crabtree if everything's so terrible in GB?
me thinks I'll call GJ "SG" from now on: Sour Grapes.
I suspect Rodgers has always had that edge to him but he has kept it under control. He has stated he thinks carefully about how he presents himself and that chip on his shoulder is as much about bitterness and resentment at times as it is striving to be the best. But who cares? He has to have that edge to do what he does... but perhaps he is letting that edge show itself more than he used to. Maybe with the twitter stuff he takes stock and realizes he needs to rein it in a little more. But I can't imagine MM and TT or Rodgers himself would let it get too out of control.
The other interesting thing is you dont hear Bishop saying anything, and he's in purple and white as well. It does sound like Gerg has an axe to grind, and by golly he's going to grind it.
FWIW Bishop and Rodgers are Cal Bear homeboys.
Some intrepid scribe in the TC's should ask Des if he agrees with Jennings' take.
Originally Posted by Dr._Bob:
I suspect Rodgers has always had that edge to him but he has kept it under control.
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Agreed.
In his younger initial appearances he was pretty demonstrative when things went wrong.
I'm assuming MM pulled him aside and told him to stow it.
Career success's enable him to be whoever he wants to be.
AR can be who he wants to be away from the camera - I don't care. As long as he is doing his own job and keeping the offense on track - and not pretending to play GM or some such thing - as a certain former QB did - I am ok with it.
Jennings just needs to quit talking. The bulletin board material in the Packer locker room is growing. If I were playing, I wouldn't want to give any of my opponents any more of a reason to beat me other than the simple fact the game is scheduled.
To me the "tipping point" on where this falls is Jennings sister's tweets last season. Jennings was no longer putting up big numbers and someone had to be blamed.
Many many years ago, before I got so old that my balls fell off, I was a TV Director of live TV newscasts. You know, before there were 32,494 TV channels plus the innernet. I worked with a lot of Newscasters who were decent, regular people until they got on TV every night. Then 90% of them thought they were the next coming of Walter Cronkite or Barbara Walters. Some people start to believe their poop doesn't stink. I think athletes can be affected by wealth and fame the same way. This was true not only when I worked in California, but even here in little old Idaho.
I hope A.R. is still a humble, regular guy, but who knows? Obviously Greg Jennings has been affected by his own fame and fortune, and it may be a little hypocritical for him to say something like that about his former QB. Or maybe it's sour grapes 'cuz he knows that despite making good money at Minny, his team's success depends on one person, and it's AP, not Greg Jennings. Too bad, I always thought he really did seem like a "team player" when he was with Green Bay.
Fandame, would you happen to remember which show you were listening to?
As an aside. Ben Leber (@nacholeber) was on a show I listened to that almost made my ears bleed before he was introduced. Leber had some cogent thoughts about Jennings silliness. Skip ahead to 46:26
Fandame wrote:
Sounds like reporters who are butthurt that Rodgers is calling out reporters on their stupidity.
quote:A note: earlier today on KFAN here in the Twin Cities, one of the beat reporters said that several people in the media here and in GB he's talked to agree that Rodgers has changed a lot. [...] and that Rodgers will make comments like "That's a stupid question" when guys near him are being interviewed.
Sounds like reporters who are butthurt that Rodgers is calling out reporters on their stupidity.
Gerg... don't even know what to say. don't really care. if he thinks he's going to go to Minnesota and be a star he's kidding himself. Minnesota's offense is the definition of a one-man show. They averaged more yards per rush than pass. that's hilarious.
have fun Gerg...and please PLEASE keep ripping on "12" or "that guy they have now".
Been a while since we've seen A-Rod play pissed off.
Originally Posted by titmfatied:
Fandame, would you happen to remember which show you were listening to?
As an aside. Ben Leber (@nacholeber) was on a show I listened to that almost made my ears bleed before he was introduced. Leber had some cogent thoughts about Jennings silliness. Skip ahead to 46:26
Yeah, Jennings is a big baby. Anyone think his sister got her material from a certain Packers receiver? What started out as a little joke has led to some butthurt for
Gerg.
Originally Posted by titmfatied:
Fandame, would you happen to remember which show you were listening to?
As an aside. Ben Leber (@nacholeber) was on a show I listened to that almost made my ears bleed before he was introduced. Leber had some cogent thoughts about Jennings silliness. Skip ahead to 46:26
Good stuff. Leber is spot on that Greg is spending way too much time talking about GB while also trying to sell the fact he's all about team.
“It’s not a free-for-all. There’s structure,” Jennings said. “But there’s liberty. You can breathe. It’s like, ‘OK, I can do my thing.’ You know what you need to do, you get it done. Whereas [in Green Bay], everything was more cookie-cutter. … It’s just different. In a good way. And not knocking what we did there. Because obviously it was successful. But here, no one’s walking on egg shells.”
Yeah, and they have really cool boat rides with lots of ho's, so my sister can go!!! I gots Liberty!!!
What a twat.
Originally Posted by RoyalWulff
I hope A.R. is still a humble, regular guy, but who knows?
Don't kid yourself, AR was never a "humble, regular" guy. Those guys don't sit in the pocket knowing a 270# DE is bearing down at his back and stand in to deliver a six, take the hit, get up and do it again. "Humble, regular" guys don't cut it as NFL QBs.
"Humble, regular" guys don't cut it as NFL QBs.
Bart Starr disagrees.
CJ, it was a mid-day show, but it was a former beat reporter they were talking to (Zulgad?). Can't recall who because I usually don't get to listen. I will say that later that day the KFAN guys were savaging GJ saying he was setting Ponder up for failure if he doesn't get the ball to Jennings often every game, a point I agree with. Then it would be, "I was open but Ponder didn't see me; I could have done more if I'd gotten the ball, etc."
Originally Posted by Shoeless Joe:
"Humble, regular" guys don't cut it as NFL QBs.
Bart Starr disagrees.
Bart Starr was a cocky SoB when he put on those cleats. He wasn't a jerk off the field or anything either, but he was extremely "self-confident". He had to be.
I'll defer to someone who actually shared a huddle with him, but thanks for your input.
How 'bout Bart himself with things like "confidence can put you right on the edge of invincibility". He didn't lack any sense of self, and there's trophys and banners to show it. Again, it's not like he was kicking nuns and being a jerk, but he was cocky as heck like all the great ones are/were. There's (essentially) no self doubt in successful NFL players.
There's a BIG difference between being cocky and being confident, but I wouldn't expect you to know that. 
As an example, this is cocky:
Somehow I doubt Bart ever acted like that.
Edit: Well put H5
His confidence (as with others on those teams) was a bi-product of Lombardi. Many of today's athletes come in with a cockiness due to the big money of the college game and for some the Friday Night Lights.
Starr was, is, and always will be a humble, confident leader. Is he regular? Only if he is getting enough fiber.
Obviously the situation in GB wasn't such that Greg could get sufficient ego gratification and perhaps the move is for the best. I still don't understand why he seems intent on ruining his brand by continually running his mouth.
I don't think Starr was to the point of arrogance by any means, but he knew he was that good, believed he was that good, had that swagger and never backed down in a game, win or lose, beaten or clean. Rodgers and Favre also display(ed) a lot of that. The game is on their shoulders and they don't (didn't) shy from it.
I do think he handled it better than many modern players. Many of them do go past cocky to being actually arrogant. IMO Jennings probably crosses that line.
Did you forget the "first rule of holes" again, Hersh?
Originally Posted by Herschel:
How 'bout Bart himself with things like "confidence can put you right on the edge of invincibility". He didn't lack any sense of self, and there's trophys and banners to show it. Again, it's not like he was kicking nuns and being a jerk, but he was cocky as heck like all the great ones are/were. There's (essentially) no self doubt in successful NFL players.
Agree, although I would say "supremely confident" rather than "cocky". His background and Vince's tutelage got him there.
I recently heard a Paul Hornung (as emblematic of athletic arrogance as anybody) quote about Starr that went something like this (paraphrasing):
"Bart was the most polite and well-mannered person off the field that there can be. But on the field, he would cut your heart out without batting an eye."