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@FLPACKER posted:

As soon as he went "pop" I was out .....

When I was in college back in the 90s, I was a member of the college radio station (I was doing news the morning the first President Bush threw up on the Japanese prime minister), which had an AM "alternative" radio station and an FM "classic rock" station.  I liked to joke to the AM DJs that they should really call alternative "failure music" because as soon as an act becomes successful, the original fans complain that the act sold out.

Not that I necessarily disliked the music; some of it was good and some not to my taste.  I remember this fun song:

I note that Pikes Peak doesn't mention disco.

One thing I've noticed is that there seems to be this consensus that 70s rock is self-evidently great while 80s pop is self-evidently terrible.  I guess it's that the Boomers that have more or less held the high ground of cultural taste aged out for 80s pop.  (It would also explain why acts like Bruce Springsteen are so overrated.)

The local "greatest hits of all time" station used to be British Invasion through the 1980s, but starting in 2020 added 90s music for the millennials.  I found it interesting that 90s pop like the Backstreet Boys wound up in the rotation, but the 80s equivalents such as New Kids on the Block have never shown up.  Not that I like New Kids on the Block, but there is a big swath of 80s pop that has never been in the station's rotation, especially in the R&B/pop area.

@Fedya posted:

Paul McCartney is better to listen to than John Lennon.

McCartney had the genius of coming up with music that may not have had any depth, but is eminently infectious to sing along with, while Lennon is tedious.  Compare the upbeat and fun "Wonderful Christmastime" to the dirge of "Happy Christmas".

Wonderful Christmastime might be the worst Christmas song of all time

Harrison was the best of the fab 4

Not sure how you'd define guilty pleasure.

If it's something I'd be embarrassed to admit I like?
Unfortunately an easy one here. The band is the worst. The song is a bad joke for most people. I cannot explain it, but the song Nookie by Limp Bizkit just has a spell on me. 

If it's something that's completely different what I usually listen to?
I'd like to say Sigur Ros, but nothing sounds like Sigur Ros... So instead I'll say that back when I was working, I'd like to listen to music with no lyrics when I was heads down on pitches, PPTs, email, reviews, etc. and I got in to some ambient/psy-trance/prog-trance stuff - Solar Winds, Aes Dana, Asura, H.U.V.A Network, Carbon Based Lifeforms...

@Timpranillo posted:

Not sure how you'd define guilty pleasure.

If it's something I'd be embarrassed to admit I like?
Unfortunately an easy one here. The band is the worst. The song is a bad joke for most people. I cannot explain it, but the song Nookie by Limp Bizkit just has a spell on me.



That seems like the definition.  In that case, I'll list Abba, Journey, a lot of disco, the soundtrack from Grease, some Wham! and George Michael.

Interestingly (at least to me), Journey was orginally a jazz fusion band founded by former members of Santana (Gregg Rolie and Neil Schon), The Steve Miller Band, and Frumious Bandersnatch which included a member from The Tubes.  Gregg Rolie was the original lead vocalist of Journey, but they didn't really take off until Steve Perry took over lead vocals.

@Fedya posted:

Paul McCartney is better to listen to than John Lennon.

McCartney had the genius of coming up with music that may not have had any depth, but is eminently infectious to sing along with, while Lennon is tedious.  Compare the upbeat and fun "Wonderful Christmastime" to the dirge of "Happy Christmas".

Totally agree.  Loved Lennon's music with the Beatles but outside of Double Fantasy I really never cared for his music.

I don't really have a guilty pleasure type of music because my musical taste is just about anything besides modern pop, 70s bubble gum pop, disco, and rap. 

That seems like the definition.  In that case, I'll list Abba, Journey, a lot of disco, the soundtrack from Grease, some Wham! and George Michael.

Count me in as liking disco.  And while I find Wham! tolerable now (I hated them in the '80s), George Michael as a solo act definitely would be a guilty pleasure for me.  George as a solo artist had 5 or 6 songs that I think are excellent.  Sorry Andrew Ridgely, but George was better without you. 

What would make him the best of the Fab 4?

Count me as one who thought McCartney was the best.  Maybe Iโ€™m biased because I saw him in concert at Lambeau Field in 2019.  

That was probably the coolest concert Iโ€™ve ever been to.  Sitting literally on the field in the middle of the 20 yard line and then seeing McCartney playing hit after hit just past the Lambeau end zone was just fantastic and something hard to top.

@Timpranillo posted:

Not sure how you'd define guilty pleasure.

If it's something I'd be embarrassed to admit I like?
Unfortunately an easy one here. The band is the worst. The song is a bad joke for most people. I cannot explain it, but the song Nookie by Limp Bizkit just has a spell on me.

If it's something that's completely different what I usually listen to?
I'd like to say Sigur Ros, but nothing sounds like Sigur Ros... So instead I'll say that back when I was working, I'd like to listen to music with no lyrics when I was heads down on pitches, PPTs, email, reviews, etc. and I got in to some ambient/psy-trance/prog-trance stuff - Solar Winds, Aes Dana, Asura, H.U.V.A Network, Carbon Based Lifeforms...

Freaking LOVE Sigur Ros.  Saw them in the Twin Cities years ago and it was an amazing show.  Right up there with TOOL in terms of lights and sound.

Limp Bizkit was pretty good early on but they became a joke, particularly after the Woodstock 99 situation.

Really, I'll listen to just about anything.  The musical genres I like least are opera, modern pop and modern rap/hip hop.

Can't do fake/pop country.  Just straight up garbage.  Too much good blue grass, outlaw, Texas boogie, Americana, Honky Tonk to go around to listen that slop.  I really try not to bash people's taste or music styles but I find that crap unbearable, if not insulting on multiple levels.  At least with mass produced pop you'll hear some different stylings, riffs and effects even if they are rare.

For as much as I can't stand Texas, absolutely some of my favorite music comes from Texas artists.  I don't even consider it in the same category as Country.

Willie, Waylon, Lyle Lovett, Junior Brown, Ernest Tubbs, Bobby Bare, ZZ Top, etc.

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@Henry posted:

Can't do fake/pop country.  Just straight up garbage.  Too much good blue grass, outlaw, Texas boogie, Americana, Honky Tonk to go around to listen that slop.  I really try not to bash people's taste or music styles but I find that crap unbearable, if not insulting on multiple levels.  At least with mass produced pop you'll hear some different stylings, riffs and effects even if they are rare.

For as much as I can't stand Texas, absolutely some of my favorite music comes from Texas artists.  I don't even consider it in the same category as Country.

Willie, Waylon, Lyle Lovett, Junior Brown, Ernest Tubbs, Bobby Bare, ZZ Top, etc.

I hear you.  I canโ€™t stand modern pop or most modern country/pop.  Putting hip hop into country music?  I donโ€™t know, I must be getting old.  

I do love southern rock, hard country and country rock.  When I was a kid, my mom bought my dad a Lynnard Skynnard best of, two-record album.  He wasnโ€™t interested at all in listening to it.  So as I was wont to do with all of his records, I borrowed it and fell in love with it.  He actually had a lot of great records.  All the Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Moody Blues, Chet Atkins, Jimmy Hendrix, Deep Purple, The Who, among others.  I was mad to find out later in life that he threw them all away.

The musicians you listed - I havenโ€™t heard anything I can remember from Junior Brown, Ernest Tubbs or Bobby Bare.  But now Iโ€™m going to have to listen to those.  Love ZZ Top, especially early ZZ Top that was very bluesy.

Thatโ€™s another genre I love - the blues.  Blues Traveler is one of my favorite bands.  Stevie Ray Vaughan, Eric Clapton, Jeff Healey, Buddy Guy, Kenny Wayne Sheppard - too many to mention.  Saw a bunch of great bands going to Chicago for the blues fests that never made it big.  Fun times.

Up until I was a senior in college, I had never heard of Stevie Ray Vaughn.  It wasnโ€™t until I went to the concert in Alpine Valley that I heard his music and loved it.  Eric Clapton was the headline, there were a bunch of blues bands that played before him.  SRV was right before EC.  He stole the show, he was awesome and everyone was on their feet.  After he was done, EC came to the stage shaking his head, and said โ€œI have to follow that?โ€  Unfortunately, SRV died in a helicopter crash after the concert leaving Alpine Valley.  I immediately went out and bought some of his CDโ€™s and wore them out.

@Henry posted:

That's pretty guilty.

Hey, speaking of outlaw country, have you heard Aaron Lewis?  He was the lead singer of Staind and decided to go country.  I was a bit skeptical, but Staind was one of my favorite bands, and I really liked Aaron Lewis's songwriting so I was definitely curious.  He's actually very good, and his style is that of old school, outlaw country.  Saw his country band live at a venue out here a few years ago, and you'd swear he's been doing this his entire musical life.  Just as good or better than a lot of country out there now IMHO.

@Henry posted:

Billy Joel

Still love the Piano Man.

Returning home today after running a couple of 'honey-do' errands, this came on the radio. I was tempted to listen to its' entirety, but bailed out.
The thought occurred to me, though, that "Piano Man" is every bit the classic that "EL Paso" (Marty Robbins) was in the previous generation.

FWIW, I think a song called "1952 Vincent Black Lightning" is the 'story song' for the new millennium. Although a guy named Richard Thompson recorded and released it in 1991, The Del McCoury band released a cover of it in 2001 that blows 'em all away.

@Henry posted:

Can't do fake/pop country.  Just straight up garbage.  Too much good blue grass, outlaw, Texas boogie, Americana, Honky Tonk to go around to listen that slop.  I really try not to bash people's taste or music styles but I find that crap unbearable, if not insulting on multiple levels.  At least with mass produced pop you'll hear some different stylings, riffs and effects even if they are rare.

For as much as I can't stand Texas, absolutely some of my favorite music comes from Texas artists.  I don't even consider it in the same category as Country.

Willie, Waylon, Lyle Lovett, Junior Brown, Ernest Tubbs, Bobby Bare, ZZ Top, etc.

Hank, give this a whirlโ€ฆmaybe right in your wheelhouse

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