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This one is going to be tough to swallow for some. I love the play Hiura has shown, but, Shaw is a great player too. Orlando Arcia needed two stints in the minors last year to get his swing worked out, and look what that has done for this Brewers team since.

Shaw is an asset to this team as much as Hiura is. They are just trying to work it out as best as they can. If we can get Shaw's return to 2017-18 form, that would be a big plus. Hiura will be back no matter what. They will figure it out. In the meantime, Hiura gets to work on his D.

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Pretty sure they are all out of options with Aguilar.  To me, he’s the one that needs to step up.  He had a tremendous 1st half of 2018, but after the AS break he’s not been the same player. 

Shaw has deserved the right to play to get things straightened out.  It’s amazing to me how quickly people want to kick him to the curb.  Hiura will be just fine. 

I don't know what sending Hiura to Triple A accomplishes. What's he going to work on? He was on pace (over a 162 game season) for 44 HRs, 125 RBIs, and was hitting .333 there. His OPS was 1.106. 

If he continued to play in the majors at his current pace, he was on pace (for a 162 game season) for 48 HRs, 86 RBIs, and was hitting .282. 

Basically the rationale is that Shaw "deserves" a chance to come back and play. I'd say that after almost 50 years (and having a team that has a chance to advance deep into the playoffs this year) that the Brewers organization and fans deserve to have the best chance to win this year. This move does not do that.  if the Brewers make the playoffs and Hiura is healthy, there is a 100% chance he's on the playoff roster. 

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Shaw has options but Jesus and Thames do not. Not going to kick Jesus to the curb yet. Huira will be fine, plus we are playing a series against the Marlins so it's a good time to work out Shaws miserable play.....trying to be positive here. Shaw looks lost and if I'm not mistaken he didnt look very good in AAA either. 

Sorry dude. Yeah, I just meant options, not player options. Shaw is under a team friendly deal, and he is as much an asset to the Brewers as is Hiura. Arcia got straightened out and look at what he's done. Same could be true for Shaw, and he probably will be our every day 3B next year, with a permanent move of Hiura to 2B next season.

Plus, the season is still somewhat young, with a month or so before the All-Star break. Hey, I'm trying to be positive too, just like you. I didn't want Hiura going back to AAA, but, I can understand their rationale, and I do trust Stearns and Counsell completely.

If Shaw doesn't come around, I'm sure they will call Hiura up, pronto~! I don't see a big problem with this, planned with a weaker schedule over next few weeks to try to get him back on line.

 

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Nelson looked great for 4 innings, and then fell apart while  Counsell seemed asleep at the wheel. Even Manny Pina kept looking into the dugout wondering if Counsell was awake. He couldn't throw a strike and was left to load the bases with 3 straight walks and 0 outs. Was like watching little league.  Course the pen hasn't been worth a damn any way.

Wonder if the new pitching coach is feeling any heat.  

Weird, weird, weird. 8 games over .500 and in 1st place in the NLC. Just got through toughest stretch of our schedule. Wobbly wheels & all.

Dog, our pitching has really struggled as compared to expectations. At least we are in a position to make moves at the deadline.

Last night was probably not going to be a win coming off the travel day on last leg of western road trip. We are finding some things out though. Shaw is probably going back down, and Aguilar is finding his way off the team if he doesn't get his BA over .200. Hiura will get called up again and will stick at 2B. Stearns will add another quality reliever and starter at the trade deadline.

We should be in good shape to make a run by then.

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