Ho-Hum SB???

I am not a gloom and doom person where the Packers are concerned.

 

But, your take was taking the utterly absurd to astonishing heights.

If the PI committed by Taint wasn't cheating, I don't know what is.

 

Uh huh....and your presence here in this discussion is utterly absurd & at astonishing lows.

 

You have no idea WTF you're talking about

I don't resent the Seahawks for the Fail Mary, just the replacement refs and the league...Really just Roger Goodell as he is the face of the league. I just don't like the way Seattle does business. I don't respect Carroll because of his history with cheating and that's not just Carroll I feel that way about. I feel the same way about Urban Meyer, Jim Tressell, etc. Carroll got off scott free, abandoned the ship, and is got a Super Bowl ring for his trouble. You'll have to excuse me if I'm skeptical that he runs a clean program in Seattle.

Jerruh cashed in.

 

Avg ticket price for last 4 SB's

SB45 (Dallas): ~$3500

SB46 (Indy): ~$2900

SB47 (Nola): $2478

SB48 (NYC): $2530.

The light at the entrance of Keil's house looks like it was purchased out of skymall

looks like the most basic Chihuly I've ever seen. 

http://www.chihuly.com/museums.aspx

I don't think Skymall or Chihuly has ever designed a dildo chandelier.  Come on man.

how does one utilize a chandelier dildo?

(I really don't want an answer) 

Dildo chandelier.  Not chandelier dildo.  Big difference.  Think about it.  Maybe later in the afternoon.

chandelier dildo.

 

Wasn't he on Friends?

Boris, in my post where I say I disagree with your take (Packers could very well have won the SB), to qualify my explanation in the way you did is just totally without any merit.

 

Feel free to dissect that post point by point if you'd like.

That was chanandler bong.

To sort of expand on what Grave Digger posted, if Carroll was such a great coach and honorable individual he would have tried to stay at U$C and show he could build a winner the honest way. Since he didn't do that and was such a failure at his other NFL stops one can only conclude he is cheating at Seattle. You just don't become a genius overnight.

Why is this a necessary conclusion?

 

He had already demonstrated a desire to coach (and of course succeed) at the highest level.  He's not exactly young.

 

I don't think it is reasonable to conclude Carrol could not possibly have left for the NFL for the simple reason that he wanted to succeed at the highest level before it is his time to walk away from it all.

 

You don't even allow that possibility.

 

You also do not allow that someone can improve his capabilities thru ~20 years of on the job training (I refer to his experience after the Patriots to just before joining the Seahawks.)

ANY college coach would jump at a shot to be a HC in the NFL.  So I think it was just luck that Carroll would have wanted out of USC because of shady reasons. 

 

Coaches don't just become geniuses overnight.  Unless their roster is stocked with really great players.

See: Belichick, Bill

You used a cheat to defend another cheat? LOVE IT!

I think Carroll left Southern Cal because he caught wind that there were possible sanctions coming to the school, possibly a death penalty, possibly a show-cause for him, and the Seahawks job was open. He was being connected to NFL jobs every year, but none were ever an option because U$C was paying him like an NFL coach and he had almost complete autonomy over his program. The "highest level" for these guys is whoever pays the most and/or gives the most power to them. He had money and power at U$C and only left because 1) potential sanctions were going to lower his stock and 2) his program was in the NCAA crosshairs and he wasn't going to be able to pull his old tricks. Plus I think the rise of Stanford and Oregon in the PAC12 made it a much easier decision. He was responsible for all of the violations that occurred at U$C and bailed right before the hammer dropped. 

 

I can't believe people still defend this guy! He taught scumbags like Lane Kiffin and Ed Orgeron everything they know.

Both good coaches, both failed in early stints in the NFL, both scumbags. Apropo no?

No! Kidding, I [{("SEEN")}] your point initially.

I know, I just had that alliteration in my head and an easy chance to blurt it out.

You couldn't help yourself, could you?

See Phaedrus, I'm not the only one.

Maybe that's just a bit of a leap you're making there?

See post above.

Found this on SI from Don Banks:  

 

 

• We seemingly always fall in love with our new Super Bowl champion every year, but dynasty talk does seem pure folly in today's NFL. I would remind you that no NFC champion has repeated since the 1996-97 Green Bay Packers, with a whopping 12 NFC teams winning the 16 conference titles since then. In that span, only Detroit, Dallas, Minnesota and Washington haven't made a Super Bowl trip out of the NFC.

 

Seems that the Packers, Giants, Philly and da Bears have a lot to say who gets to the playoffs in the NFC.

Who was the last SB champ to even win a playoff game the following year?

 

Hasn't happened in at least 8 years.

 

I sure wouldn't bet on Seattle to win it all again next year.

ammo:

See Phaedrus, I'm not the only one.

I haven't offered an opinion about Carroll one way or the other.