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Of the firing of Michael John McCarthy as the head football coach of the Green Bay Packers?

Wasn't there a contingent of "careful what you wish for" Packer fans who insisted that the Pack might take a big step back if they dared to move on from the self-described "highly successful" football coach?

Wonder if there is anyone left who (a) thinks firing McCarthy was the wrong move or (b) does not think that the firing was long overdue.

Go Seahawks!

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I am man enough to admit at first I was in the "careful what you wish for" crowd.

Now? I have moved on and have totally forgotten about it and now its time to concentrate on the 2019 edition of the Packers.

By the time all is said and done, Matt LaFluer is looking at what is likely to be a 6-7 game swing in wins taking this team to either 12-4 or 13-3. That is a incredible turn around  for ANY coach to do in a single year, much less a rookie one. And it makes forgetting MM all that much easier. 

I am also not convinced Angry Bald Man is here in 2020. Gutenheimer has spent a shit load of FA money and the Packers have invested a ton of draft capitol on the defense. He has 6 players on his defense that are either 1st or 2nd round picks.

It would not at all shock me if MLF moved on from Pettine. MLF see's what is going on in SF and best believe his best buddies in SF are also in his ear about what they think of GB's defense. And unlike MM, MLF does not appear to be a HC who will hang on to assistants because they are "yes" men to him or because they are friends. A big contrast to McVince as well.   

     

Lets see how the D performs in the playoffs under Pettine before talking about if he should go or not.    

We are coming off a game where we surrendered only 13 and took it away 3 times.   That would be our 5th game that we surrendered less than 20, one with 22 and another with 24.    Yes, those didn't come against elite QB's, but not many teams are holding teams with elite QB's under 20.    It's happened to the Packers, with a 1rsst year offense, only twice this year.   

Really? All happy that McCarthy got booted, eh? Was it time for him to go, sure.....but seriously. He brought us a Super Bowl title. So did Dom. Say what you want but you fuckers are all Rong about him. Be happy with what you have & that's a 4th Super Bowl title. Celebrate that, because that's what I look at....not all the negative bullshit. 

Coaches usually have a shelf life of 8-10 years in the NFL. The guy has a street named after him. STFU & enjoy the season

Rong.   A competent coach would lead the best QB, statistically speaking, to more than 1 Super Bowl appearance.  

Rodgers bailed out MM numerous times in the playoffs.   It was a rare, if ever, for MM's game plan or game mgt to contribute to the success.   It was a hindrance that Rodgers would overcome. 

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Boris posted:

Really? All happy that McCarthy got booted, eh? Was it time for him to go, sure.....but seriously. He brought us a Super Bowl title. So did Dom. Say what you want but you fuckers are all Rong about him. Be happy with what you have & that's a 4th Super Bowl title. Celebrate that, because that's what I look at....not all the negative bullshit. 

Coaches usually have a shelf life of 8-10 years in the NFL. The guy has a street named after him. STFU & enjoy the season

Trees have streets named after them.

ammo posted:

I think we need to replace Special Teams coach much more than we need to replace Angry Bald Man.

Maybe they should try no ST coach. Wait, hasn't that been what they've been doing for almost a decade?

Pikes Peak posted:
Boris posted:

Really? All happy that McCarthy got booted, eh? Was it time for him to go, sure.....but seriously. He brought us a Super Bowl title. So did Dom. Say what you want but you fuckers are all Rong about him. Be happy with what you have & that's a 4th Super Bowl title. Celebrate that, because that's what I look at....not all the negative bullshit. 

Coaches usually have a shelf life of 8-10 years in the NFL. The guy has a street named after him. STFU & enjoy the season

Trees have streets named after them.

You win the internet for the day.

BrainDed posted:

Rong.   A competent coach would lead the best QB, statistically speaking, to more than 1 Super Bowl appearance.  

Like Don Shula did? Or Tony Dungy? Or Sean Payton? Or Mike Holmgren? Or Bill Cowher? 

In fact there are actually only 32 coaches in NFL history that have a SB win PERIOD, only 13 of them have multiple SBs. Of the 43 coaches in NFL history that have over 100 wins, only 9 have multiple SBs and only 1 coach has multiple SBs since the year 2000...there are 4 coaches who won multiple SBs but never won 100 games: Tom Flores, Vince Lombardi, Bill Walsh, and Jimmy Johnson. It's hard to win a SB regardless of your personnel. 

So no, it is definitively not abnormal or unprecedented for a coach to not achieve multiple SBs despite having a franchise (or HOF even) QB. I see 5 HOF coaches (Weeb Eubank, John Madden, Hank Stram, Tony Dungy, Mike Ditka) that had a HOF QB (or in Ditka's case multiple HOF players on the team) that only achieved 1 SB. Is it disappointing? Yes obviously. Does it mean MM was a dud or not competent? Absolutely not. 

BrainDed posted:

Rong.   A competent coach would lead the best QB, statistically speaking, to more than 1 Super Bowl appearance.  

Rodgers bailed out MM numerous times in the playoffs.   It was a rare, if ever, for MM's game plan or game mgt to contribute to the success.   It was a hindrance that Rodgers would overcome. 

Ironically I would say he had a near perfect plan for the Seattle NFCCG, until he shot himself in the foot in the end, with the help of Brian Bostick.

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