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For the record, I don't think he would either, but it's not like that's a possibility that's somehow way out in left field either. I think if he get's this one, he's been around in the NFL long enough to understand getting a 3rd in the next 3-4 years would be an extremely tall order. 

GB has enjoyed unheard of health and they earned a top 2 seed for just the 2nd time in 9 years. If he wins it all, I think many will reflect on this season as one of a perfect storm where a lot of things went right that normally don't occur (think the Lions wins x2, playing KC without Mahomes, virtually everyone is healthy all year, etc).

He's about as smart as they come at the position. I think he's also objective enough to know going out at the top is something virtually no else gets to do.  



 

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12 is a legacy guy. He wants to leave a legacy. If he wins it in year 1 of the MLF project, I know he will think 1 or 2 more is highly possible. He also wants to retire a Packer. Barring major injury, I see him playing till at least 39 or 40.

I would be completely be ok with it if he walked away.  He fully deserves to do that if it happens.

I also don't think he would walk away IF they are to win it.  As others have said I think he would say I have unfinished business and want to win one more.

 

I wouldn't begrudge any football player from walking away from the game...

that being said, if you just quit during the season like a bitch TE, then screw you,  

I don't think he will hang up the cleats but it wouldn't surprise me if he walks away regardless of how the season turns out. As fans we pretty much only see Rodgers the player. Who knows how much other behind the scenes/media BS he has to deal with. Things like His skills are fading, He hates MLF, He punched a cancer lady and other crap like that. I get that that stuff comes with the job and all but it still has to wear on a guy.

Why he might call it quits. What is his motivation to stick around ? He is still in good health = not too many shots to the melon like Aikman. He has already earned more money then he could spend in a lifetime.  He has a SB ring. He has an MVP under his belt and is a shoe in for the HOF.  Aside from winning another SB he has nothing left to prove. Is winning another SB enough motivation for him to want to keep playing ?  More important is does he still enjoy playing the game ?  Who knows but it's fun to speculate.  

I hope he sticks around and I think he will but I wouldn't blame him or be upset if he leaves. 

Devils advocate here.....If he wins why stay? His legacy would be 2 Super Bowls, HOF accolades, a bit of a comeback this year which would shut up any naysayers.   He's got gazallions.  He's got his health.  At one time he said he would love to get in the music business in someway.  

What could be finer than the fall in Malibu with a beautiful young lady?

That said.....he'll be back.   He is a football player who loves football.

But, you never know.

Hungry5 posted:

Would not be surprised. Would not be angry, And would be okay with that.





That said... he's not done yet.

+1 / +1 / +1

+1

BUT.....

What if Danica gets pregnant?

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This isn't the 2010 team with a bunch of young guys waiting to get paid.  This is a balanced team (or close to balanced) on offense and defense with vets and young guys alike.  They also have an active GM and a new coach that doesn't appear to be all gimmicks.  Chicken salad out of chicken shit.

If Rodgers see a very real path to another or even a couple of championships he stays.  As messy as this transition could've been I think there's a real sense of finally putting together a whole team identity that's more measured and steady on both sides of the ball.  It's not just high octane offense.  It's not "Let Aaron handle it".  If it looked like a fire sale or guys lining up for contracts after the season then I could see him retiring.   If it stays like this and they add more solid talent I can't imagine it would be anything but fun.

I would add I'm pretty sure he wants every clickbaiter in the media/fanbase to know he's plenty elite with more than 1 or 2 receivers worth two shits.

Dr._Bob posted:

Then he has no choice but to keep playing.  Do you know how expensive a new baby is?

Andrew Yang says that kid is worth $1,000 dollars a month to me....I’m in Utah, I have multiple wives and I like $$$—-thanks bitches!

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Fandame...

Andrew Yang want to GIVE everybody $1,000 per month just for breathing...I’m gonna have 2O kids and pocket the cash until the little bastards catch on to my scheme.

Surprised? Definitely.
Angry? No way.
OK with it? Sure.

I'd be disappointed and the angst from a new QB would start soon thereafter, but it's gonna happen some day.

I don't think ARod has anything left to 'prove', but I hope he has some personal goals he would like to reach before retiring. Multiple and/or back-to-back Superb Owl victories would be nice.

Tavis Smiley posted:

Chinese people don’t fart Henry.

I beg to differ.
The common people in most of Asia will fart and burp at will.
But don't dare use a toothpick without using your off hand to cover your mouth.
Different strokes for different folks.

While nothing Aaron Rodgers would ever do at this stage of his life or career would truly surprise me, I am 95% sure if he wins this game Sunday, and then wins the Super Bowl, he comes back completely re-invigorated next season.

Aaron would never say it, but since 2010, starting in 2011 where he, essentially, carried the entire team on his back to a 15-1 record, the Packers organization has let him down. They’ve never...never had “the team” around him that could win a Super Bowl. And what I mean by that is, I’m not saying they couldn’t have won it all had they not let Seattle come back in 2014, or that they couldn’t have won it all in 2016 with a healthy Jordy Nelson, and an actual running back playing running back against Atlanta. Anything could have happened. Aaron could have played out of his mind, and willed the team to victory. No, what I mean is that the Packers, from top to bottom, never had one of those teams that, were the big game played ten times, Green Bay would have been the heavy favorite to win, and would have taken 7 or 8 of those 10 games. They didn’t have the complete, dynamic team around him like Tom Brady has had. They didn’t have that core that could go on a run to win multiple Championships in a short amount of time.

Brady has had arguably the greatest Head Coach of the modern era in Bill Belichick (with apologies to Bill Walsh, Don Shula, Chick Noll, Bill Parcells and a small handful of others). A team owner that was willing to spend in free agency to improve the team, and bring in Hall of Fame-level talent-Moss, though only there three seasons, helped them to their 16-0 regular season. They should have won the Super Bowl, but Tom Brady was very average in that game. And though the Antonio Brown signing was a disaster, they took the chance on a guy that was arguably the best receiver in the game. The Patriots are fantastic at identifying players to work in the Patriots’ offensive system, either via the draft-think Gronkowski and Aaron Hernandez, though the latter turned out to be a real POS, or trade-think Wes Welker. Did anybody see him becoming the stud he’d be in New England? Did he even hint at being that kind of a player in Miami? Then, there’s New England’s ability to put together an elite defense, year after year. The NFL, and stat heads, do rankings by yards surrendered. While it’s certainly helpful to know how well an offense moves the ball, or how much a defense restricts ball movement, points scored, or allowed, tells a much more accurate story. Brady has been the starter 19 seasons in New England. In a whopping 16 of those seasons, including all 6 of their Super Bowl winning teams, the Patriots have had a top ten scoring defense. Twice in Super Bowl wins, they’ve ranked #1 in the NFL, and #2 another. Their average ranking in points allowed in six Championship seasons has been 4th. So, all this talk about how Tom Brady is the GOAT is absurd. You can’t tell me that if a Steve Young, a Joe Montana, Peyton Manning, Dan Marino, Aaron Rodgers, or Drew Brees were in that same position that they’d not have the same level of success. Brady is the 5th highest rated passer in NFL history at 97.0. Rodgers is #1 at 102.4 (12 seasons). Russell Wilson is #2 at 101.2 (8 seasons). In the playoffs? Bart Starr is #1 all-time (104.8). Rodgers is 4th (100.0). Tom Brady is 14th! (89.8). Yet we’re to believe Brady, who is 30-11 in the playoffs as a starter, is better than Rodgers who’s 10-7 as a starter? Clearly Brady has had more help.

Now, however, Rodgers has the best running back of his career in Aaron Jones. And it’s not even close. Ryan Grant was pretty good for a while. Eddie Lacy was decent. He’s never had a legitimate star in the backfield with him. He does now. I won’t belabor the comparison, but it’s not a stretch to say that Rodgers is John Elway getting his Terrell Davis at the later part of his career. Rodgers also has a guy in Davante Adams that may be the best receiver he’s ever had. As much as we love Jordy Nelson, and as good as he was, he was only picked to one Pro Bowl team. Whether that’s ignorance or some sort of discrimination, I’m not getting into. He had Donald Driver later in his career. Greg Jennings was a real good receiver. But has Rodgers ever had a guy that could completely take over a game like Sterling Sharpe did early in Favre’s career? I’ll leave that for you all to debate, but I don’t think so. Adams is capable of doing just that. The offensive line has some outstanding parts. Bakhtiari had a bit of a down year by his standards, and he’s still a Pro Bowler. I think some injury issues slowed him a touch. But he’s clearly one of the best two or three left tackles in the game.Great left tackles prolong the careers of their quarterbacks. Elgton Jenkins is looking like a Star in the making. Fantastic rookie year, and I could see him being an All Pro soon. Very impressed with this young man. We need a new right tackle. Bulaga has been good, but it’s time to find his replacement for the eventuality when he just can’t go anymore. Tight end? Since JerMichael Finley, has Rodgers had a true threat at tight end? Jared Cook is hands down the best guys he’s had since 2011, but he was hurt often in his one year. Graham is not the player he once was. He’s not even the guy that Russell Wilson had. While Wilson, Drew Brees, Tom Brady, Patrick Mahomes, Jimmy Garopolo, Peyton Manning and Ben Roethlisberger have all had Pro Bowl tight ends, Rodgers never has. Not one. Jace Steenberger might be that guy. He may take a step forward in 2020, because it’s unlikely Graham or Marcedes Lewis are back. Then there’s the defense. The Packers finished strong, winning their last five regular season games in a row, and the defense ended up ninth in points allowed-the first top ten scoring defense has had since 2010. Kenny Clark, Za’Darius and Preston Smith-all played a Pro Bowl level this season (Za’Darius Smith should have been All Pro). Darnell Savage was an early Defensive Rookie of the Year favorite before getting hurt. He’s had a really strong rookie season, and will only get better. With Kevin King finally getting healthy, and showing his ability as a ball hawk, I really feel as if the Packers could have one of the elite secondaries in the NFL next year. Jaire Alexander, Savage, Amos and King could shut down the opponents’ passing game. The pass rush is the best it’s been in a while. The one spot we really need addressed is inside linebacker. I want a physical, fast guy to pair with Blake Martinez. Somebody to really help stuff the run, but also drop back into pass coverage against tight ends like Travis Kelce and George Kittle. 

But the main reason I see Aaron coming back is actually twofold. Matt LaFleur and Brian Gutekunst. The Packers are 14-3 in Gutekunst’s second year as GM, and MLF’s rookie year as a Head Coach. As I mentioned in another thread, this team is ahead of where I thought it would, or even could, be. Gutekunst looks like a genius with his free agency moves. The Smiths have not only strengthened the pass rush, but those guys are fan favorites that make the locker room better. Za’Darius, especially, is going Mach 2 110% of the time. He’s already said he loves it in Green Bay and he’s not leaving. Time will tell if that is the case. But his joy, and his enthusiasm, is infectious. Advanced metrics show that this team shouldn’t have quite the record they do. They’ve won a lot of close games on heart. 

A championship team starts in the locker room. Of that I have no doubt. None. This is a tight knit team filled with high character guys. 

Aaron has spent the last several years on a team where the Coach and GM lost the team. McCarthy refuses to change, and Thompson was like a pit bull, biting down on his idea on how a roster should be built. In-season moves were only done if there was no other resort. Brian Gutenkunst has closed that “rebuild/reload” window substantially with smart spending. The Smiths, Amos and even Turner were smart acquisitions. 

If I’m Aaron Rodgers-no matter what happens Sunday, and in the Super Bowl, should they make it, I’m freaking excited. If the team is this good one year into the Gutekunst-LaFleur partnership, how good are they going to be after one more draft. One more free agency period. One more camp for those young guys. 

If I’m Brian Gutekunst, I pull Aaron aside (if he hasn’t already), and I tell him this:

”I know that beyond Davante, your pass catching options haven’t performed at a level you’re comfortable with. We’re going to address receiver as our priority in the draft, and we are going to aggressively pursue players that will improve the passing game in free agency. We’ve invested heavily in the defense for years. And, we’re going to still work on improving that unit where it makes sense. Inside linebacker, some defensive line depth. We also have some youngsters we feel will be ready to go from day one next year. But we are going to rebuild the line, and dramatically improve the skill position players around you. Veteran and young players, both. Now, go enjoy your new home with Danica, and let’s get back to work on the next Lombardi Trophy on your resume.”

It’s always difficult to avoid wearing rose colored glasses. As a fan, I have certainly seen things as being better than they were in the past. But not now. This is a team on the rise. Only an idiot, or a Vikings fan, would opine otherwise. We have young, progressive-thinking men in charge. Where we were behind the 8 ball because the guys in charge were behind the times, Matt and Brian are clearly feet planted in the year 2020. We have seen Gutekunst make a move on draft day to get Savage. We’ve seen him pursue free agency to improve the team. We’ve seen our first year Head Coach earn the respect of the men in the locker room. They’ve bought into this system. 

If you were Aaron Rodgers, even with the aches and pains that come with his age, could you walk away now? I sure as he’ll couldn’t. Where he’s at now-where this team is at-this is what he’s been waiting for, and hoping for. He showed last Sunday he can still play at an elite level. Now, for him, the fun begins.

He may be “on the back nine”, as he likes to employ golf as a metaphor. But he’s not ready to go into the club house. The sun is shining. It’s a beautiful freaking day for golf, and Aaron Rodgers is just getting warmed up.

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bvan posted:
Tavis Smiley posted:

Chinese people don’t fart Henry.

I beg to differ.
The common people in most of Asia will fart and burp at will.
But don't dare use a toothpick without using your off hand to cover your mouth.
Different strokes for different folks.

Quit being all factual.  Are there no hayseeds over there chompin' on blade of grass?  Heathens.

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