CUPackFan posted:Too much randomness in a football season to put all your eggs into one year
I'll take Bridget Moynahans favorite t-shirt for 25,000 Alex.
Some of the best football teams the Packers have had in the past 15 years came shortly after losing seasons. The 2007 team that lost in OT in the NFC Championship game was 4-12 just 2 seasons prior. The 2010 Super Bowl winner emerged from the seeds of a team that was 6-10 just 2 seasons prior.
In a perfect world, the Packers never have a losing season, but having a losing season is not a death knell for the future. If you're not careful though, those losing seasons can make you become the Browns if your organization rots from the top on down.
I personally would take option number 1 as I want to know for darn sure that Rodgers got his 2nd ring.
I actually debated someone on whether I'd rather have Eli's last decade or Rodgers'. I said you can take the extra ring in hindsight, but in the moment I wouldn't want to trade going into at least 17 Sundays every year with the chance of a Super Bowl still in play. Think of all of those Giants' seasons that were over by Thanksgiving.
I would venture that the vast majority of us were thinking the season was over this past year when GB was sitting at 4-6 around Thanksgiving. Our crankiness, griping, and complaining about the team, coaches, etc., was in full bloom. Would you want to live through that again and again with a Lombardi here and there or have the excitement of arguing about which team you'd rather play in the postseason and wondering if there will be a home game? Give me the pins and needles of going to the playoffs; at least if you're in the Big Dance there's a chance you'll go home with the prize.
Goalline posted:bvan posted:Goalline postedHe's teaching me. I actually got a boner looking at a picture of Justine last week.
Oh man, was it that sexy one in the coin headdress?
Actually, I was mistaken. It was Andre Agassi. So hard to tell them apart.
That's because all white people look alike to you, Goalline.
Fedya posted:Goalline posted:bvan posted:Goalline postedHe's teaching me. I actually got a boner looking at a picture of Justine last week.
Oh man, was it that sexy one in the coin headdress?
Actually, I was mistaken. It was Andre Agassi. So hard to tell them apart.
That's because all white people look alike to you, Goalline.
Let me see the coin pic again so I can make a final decision.
Fedya posted:Don't ask the audience for advice.
Tell me about it....
Fedya posted:Goalline posted:bvan posted:Goalline postedHe's teaching me. I actually got a boner looking at a picture of Justine last week.
Oh man, was it that sexy one in the coin headdress?
Actually, I was mistaken. It was Andre Agassi. So hard to tell them apart.
That's because all white people look alike to you, Goalline.
That's racist. True, but racist nonetheless.
Hungry5 posted:Packers win the next 5 Super Bowls.
I will take that as option #3 - which I will take. If your goal is to make the playoffs, you're more likely to miss getting to the SB.
pablopackerfan posted:guaranteed Supper Bowls rarely work out.
You would be surprised what a little technology, player enhancement, rule revision, next gen strategy, and a little luck will do.
I know this is from 2017, but it is interesting again. I was for option #2, but after these past couple of years I like option #1 better now
A curveball in the equation is Jordan Love. Finding a QB is 75% of the battle, just ask Denver, so if you knew Aaron Rodgers would retire in ‘22 AND you knew Jordan Love was the next Mahomes or at least the next Josh Allen would say fuck the future we’re going all-in in ‘21 and ‘22? Maybe, it’s kind of enticing. We all know great QB play can mask deficiencies, so even if you have to shed your core defensive guys and guys like Davante you’re still competitive with the right draft classes.
Or do you manage wisely and keep a deep team intact around Rodgers AND Love and be in the hunt annually?
If you KNEW Love was the next Mahomes? I'd do it, wouldn't think twice. The operative word is "knew".
It's kind of like when the Saints signed Taysom Hill.
@Henry posted:If you KNEW Love was the next Mahomes? I'd do it, wouldn't think twice. The operative word is "knew".
It's kind of like when the Saints signed Taysom Hill.
Love is more likely to be Jameis Winston than Mahomes.
Love would have to drop about 50 IQ points and become a douche bag for that to happen.
I'm not sure if this is the correct thread to post this (my) opinion, but WTH?
As everyone knows, with the Packers being a public-owned team, there's not a deep-pocket owner to supply cash to build for the future. I think this is why the Titletown development is critical for the Pack's future, even within the next 5 year window.
All the COVID crap was a curveball nobody could hit, and missing out on at least 1 year's revenue was a kick to the balls. Of course, costs have to be managed very carefully, and it certainly affects contracts (* cough* ARod**cough*), especially in these next 5 years.
In an even bigger window, one has to wonder if the Packers benefit more from having winning seasons consistently compared to other teams. In this time of ever-shrinking attention spans, could the team survive another Gory Years epoch?
FWIW, I doubt the majority of "fans" today are as hardy as previous generations. Season ticket buyers may be more likely to sell their tickets and watch the game on TV. Assuming the market for ticket sales remains the same, I don't think there would be much change, if any, but will people stay for an entire game when the team is 1-16, 2-15, 5-12 year after year? Likewise, are those same people going to be shopping at the Pro Shop and other retailers? And spending money at the afore-mentioned Titletown?
Contrast that with being legitimate playoff contenders every season, keeping excitement high, benefitting from having playoff games at home, and being attractive to both FAs and coaches.
Also consider that Lambeau will have to replaced at some point, and I'd guess sooner rather than later, relatively speaking (10-20 years?). A good to great team year after year is bound to make the sell easier when fans are motivated.
In any case, I have no idea if any of this is relevant to how the team is 'structured', how far they are looking ahead to LWR (life without Rodgers), or anything else, but it is food for thought.
@Blair Kiel posted:Love would have to drop about 50 IQ points and become a douche bag for that to happen.
Love as Winston:
Love doesn’t have to be Pat Mahomes for the pick to be a success. I’m not sure he needs to be Josh Allen either.
But here’s the thing - both players were far from “sure things” coming out of college and accuracy and decision making - two things that Love also gets dinged for - are good comparisons.
Ultimately, the Chiefs and Bills gambled somewhat on their ability to develop and surround those guys with a decent roster and you see what that can do for a QB.
So, is AR12 the greatest QB ever, or has the Packer front office surrounded him with good/great RBs, some the best WR in the NFL and an always dominate OL? 
@Blair Kiel posted:Love would have to drop about 50 IQ points and become a douche bag for that to happen.
I certainly hope that Love can come up with a better pre-game “inspirational” talk than Jameis Winston’s “Eating a W” speech from a few years ago. That maybe was the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen.