So they just kind of signed him then.
I'm going to turn this stats hating theme around here for the following reasons.
1) Don't read the news first thing in the morning or ever.
2) My penchant to rail against stats comes from the bastardization of facts with the use of skewed data outside of the sports world.
3) Andy Herman is just diving into his fandom and what he enjoys. 50 Drunks in a Bar are some gobshite.
4) Trying to monetize your new genius grading/stat scheme is irritating as fuck but harmless since it's the sports world.
5) FLPacker is a great poster so ignore my petty shit but I'm not stopping with the jokes.
6) PackLandVa molests collies.
Were the Collies dressed suggestively?
@Henry posted:All Collies are sluts.
Lassie is not a slut!
But she was a bitch.
But she told everybody that Timmy fell in the well !
@Henry posted:So they just kind of signed him then.
Not yet, I don't think, but I'm hoping they bring him in for a looksee.
@Henry posted:6) PackLandVa molests collies.
The jury disagreed with this claim. And besides, collies are too "fru-fru". Bulldogs all the way.
Lombardi also used grades as motivation. If Fuzzy got better grades than Kramer you could bet Kramer was going to bust his ass in the next game. In the 1966 Championship game when Dave Robinson blitzed and got a hold of Don Meredith and forced him to throw a bad pass on 4th down, which was intercepted in the endzone by Tom Brown, Robby got a -1 grade because that is not what he was supposed to do.
25 (Bears)
16 (Eagles)
24 (Lions)
16 (Panthers)
14 (Titans)
16 (Bears)
Not the greatest of offenses faced, but if the D can continue to hold opponents to these scoring totals, I like the Pack's chances in the playoffs.
The #Packers finished ninth in total defense (334.0 yards per game), the first time Green Bay has finished inside the top 10 since 2010.
— Wes Hodkiewicz (@WesHod) January 4, 2021
If we don't give up a 35+ point game in the playoffs, I will be happy.
I still suffer from PTSD., so I'm not confident that will happen.
If Pettine can't change this, he needs to go.
At times, LaFleur suggested, the Packers' defense made things too easy.
“There’s sometimes where I think we can be a little bit more aggressive just in terms of our mentality,” LaFleur said. “Some of those third downs and fourth-down conversions, a third-and-short, I want us to get up in people's faces and challenge them. Because I think we’ve got the people that can get that done, especially when you look at our corner situation.”
LaFleur mentioned one third-and-5 from Sunday’s game where he thought the defensive backs lined up “way off” in coverage, allowing “an easy pitch and catch” to convert a first down. Such a play happened with 2:47 left in the second quarter. Only four Packers defenders lined up inside the first-down marker, four of them defensive linemen. Inside linebacker Krys Barnes stood in the middle of the field at the marker, and safety Darnell Savage stood several yards behind him.
First and second downs determine third and fourth.
@FLPACKER posted:Grades don't have a place in football? Someone should have told Lombardi that.... he graded every player on every play, which I believe he learned from Colonel Blaik at West Point. This guy is doing essentially what PFF does (who many disparage but recently read that every NFL team subscribes to it). As Lomabrdi used to say; "I don't care what the scoreboard says, you have to beat the man in front of you, that is the measure" ....since Clark has been doing that it has set the whole defense up. I do think that your assessment of Pettine's reluctance to trust his DBs inhibited the defense earlier in the year. Knight always said that coaches fell into 2 categories "simplicity & execution" or "surprise and change". I think Pettine may have leaned to the surprise & change a little too much with the backend earlier in the season, which led to blown assignments (and the sin of sending P Smith into coverage which will NEVER be forgiven by some!). The one thing that I do think Pettine has to take responsibility for is bringing Kirksey in to play Mike. He never played that position before and Pettine should have been familiar enough with Kirksey's skill set to realize that mentally he wouldn't be able to do it.
Unlike Henry's view of it, the world is not black and white. Grades and stats matter a lot, but they are not the be all end all.
A couple of plays with soft coverage and the second one is especially bad. Still have some games to play, but right now I'd guess Pettine isn't going anywhere.
It’s unclear if that’s the play LaFleur was referencing. There were ample examples from Sunday. On a third-and-3 with three minutes left in the third quarter, Packers cornerback Kevin King lined up 7 yards off Bears receiver Allen Robinson. King was backpedaling after the snap, but Robinson simply ran to the marker and stopped 5 yards downfield. When Robinson caught Trubisky’s pass for a first down, King was still 5 yards away.
In my view, Pettine doesn't trust his talented CBs....
@michiganjoe posted:A couple of plays with soft coverage and the second one is especially bad. Still have some games to play, but right now I'd guess Pettine isn't going anywhere.
Yeah, that second one is referenced above. WHO tells King to play that far off and WHY?????
It almost looks like they're taking the "we're fine giving up yards between the 20's as long as we don't allow big plays" philosophy to an extreme. King played off to prevent Robinson running past him down the sideline for a TD. Just my guess. Same with the other 4th and shorts. They didn't want to crowd the line so CHI couldn't take the shot at throwing over them. Again, just a guess.
I think you're right, but these aren't off the street CBs out there....
Great question. IMHO you just cannot allow a DB to play that far off the ball on a short play like that. And if you do you cannot allow them to be back backpedaling and basically giving them the first down. I will give MLF a lot o of credit for saying it out loud and that it is not something you can do.
It just isn't logical. Unless you're in a prevent defense HOPING they have a long, slow drive that eats up the clock.
We seem to go to prevent a LOT. Fear that will kill us in the playoffs.
Bend but don't break. We've seen it all year long.
Hopefully in the playoffs they can keep opposing offenses below 17-23
@YATittle posted:Yeah, that second one is referenced above. WHO tells King to play that far off and WHY?????
Thank goodness it was Trubisky, as well.
Kmet breaks free off the line and blows right by the LBs. WFO.
That could've been much more damaging than his pass to Robinson instead.
9th ranked D in yards.
13th ranked scoring D on the season.
2nd ranked scoring D over last 3 games.
6th ranked scoring D at home.
Trending in the right direction.
Trubisky had thrown before Kmet cleared the defenders. He threw because of the pass rush.
As people have said above, Pettine's entire defensive scheme is designed to make the offense execute long drives and hope they make a mistake or that someone makes a play. This usually means Z. Smith has a sack or a someone stuffs a run on 3rd and short.
The Packer defense gave up 38 TD drives all year. Two of these were short drives after turnovers (a 3 yard and a 16 yard drive). Of the other 36 TD drives, there wasn't a single quick-strike TD drive that was the result of a deep pass (other than a garbage time TD against the Niners when they were up 31 and had backups in). Here's the list of drives.
- Vikings (13 plays, 65 yards; 15/82; 14/87)
- Lions (8/75; 13/75; 8/75)
- Saints (4/77; 11/61; 3/75)
- Falcons (8/67; 13/75)
- Bucs (1/3; 11/65; 7/62; 7/85)
- Texans (11/75; 9/75)
- Vikings (10/73; 12/67; 10/85; 4/63)
- Niners (10/75; 4/80 - garbage time against reserves Packers up 34-3)
- Jags (3/16)
- Colts (5/75; 12/75; 10/55)
- Bears (14/87; 13/65; 15/82)
- Eagles (9/73)
- Lions (11/75; 11/80; 11/75)
- Panthers (7/51)
- Titans (10/71; 5/66)
- Bears (14/60)
Of the 5 non-garbage time drives of 5 plays or less, 2 were on screen passes that ruptured. One was a Tannehill keeper for 45. One TD was set up by a long Kamara run. The final one was a crossing pattern that ruptured.
5/75- Pittman 45 yard TD catch – caught 5 yards past LOS with Kirksey trailing
5/66 – Tannehill 45 yard TD run
4/77 – Kamara 49 yard run
4/63 – Cook 50 yard screen pass TD.
3/75 -Kamara 52 yard screen pass TD
The D has played better over the past month +.
Yes, Pettine made it clear during his presser when first hired that "nothing gets you beat faster than explosive plays in the passing game" Pettine has been a DC 8 seasons ...his defenses have finished the season in the top 10 (yards) 6 of those 8 years with three different teams....we could do a hell of a lot worse.
@YATittle posted:It’s unclear if that’s the play LaFleur was referencing. There were ample examples from Sunday. On a third-and-3 with three minutes left in the third quarter, Packers cornerback Kevin King lined up 7 yards off Bears receiver Allen Robinson. King was backpedaling after the snap, but Robinson simply ran to the marker and stopped 5 yards downfield. When Robinson caught Trubisky’s pass for a first down, King was still 5 yards away.
Are these your words or someone else's words?
@DH13 posted:It almost looks like they're taking the "we're fine giving up yards between the 20's as long as we don't allow big plays" philosophy to an extreme. King played off to prevent Robinson running past him down the sideline for a TD. Just my guess. Same with the other 4th and shorts. They didn't want to crowd the line so CHI couldn't take the shot at throwing over them. Again, just a guess.
If you are playing Pat Mahomes, okay. If you are playing Mitch Trubisky.. Dumb.