4th,
loser gets relegated to the Big Ten
MInnesota already plays in a B1G stadium. Let's make their demotion official.
Vikings would be luck to beat the Goophers.
#Packers set offseason schedule: Offseason program opens: April 20. OTAs: May 27, 28, 29; June 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, 11, 12. Minicamp: June 16-18.
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) April 2, 2015Schedule all set!
Originally Posted by Boris:
<script charset="utf-8" src="//platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" type="text/javascript"></script>#Packers set offseason schedule: Offseason program opens: April 20. OTAs: May 27, 28, 29; June 2, 3, 4, 9, 10, 11, 12. Minicamp: June 16-18.
— Jason Wilde (@jasonjwilde) April 2, 2015
Schedule all set!
Finaly! Now Jason can plan his vacation schedule.
@NFLprguy: Our schedule makers are nearing the goal line. #NFL '15 schedule to be released next week. Day TBD.
@adbrandt: NFL says 2015 schedule almost ready, unveiled next week. Translation: "We're trying to answer all the owners' complaints right now."
I don't where else to put this, but what's become of Iowachees?
who cares. everyone knows Wisconsin cheese is superior.
Originally Posted by Henry:
Facebook MySpace community outreach.
Schedule was supposed to come out today. Monday or Tuesday they'll have the "schedule release show" on NFL N ???
Guessing.....
Sure we'll get the details earlier in the day.
@AdamSchefter: NFL regular-season schedule will be released, at 8 p.m. ET Tuesday on ESPN networks.
OBTW teams start off-season workouts today.
@RobDemovsky: Cobb said coach Mike McCarthy's message to the team today was the same as always: "We're chasing the Super Bowl." #Packers
Some guys are gonna get paid.
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Last year, no NFL team paid out more in workout bonuses than the Green Bay Packers, who handed out $4.3 million to entice some of their top players to attend the offseason program.
This year, they will shell out even more.
What better way to get players to come to the NFL's smallest city for voluntary workouts, which began on Monday?
A total of 22 players -- more than one-third of the Packers' roster – have workout bonuses in their contracts. Combine them all, and the Packers will pay out $4.92 million on those bonuses. The requirement for collecting those bonuses can vary from player to player, but typically they must participate in 80 to 90 percent of the offseason program in order to collect. [Player details in article linked below.]
Looks like Linsley is going with the Hitler Youth look for the offseason
I remember the black players griping about how hard it was to get a decent hair cut in GB
Are you saying the black players won't wear Hitler haircuts?
Racist.
Linsley pic looks like Aldo Rain just asked him to come out and oblige Werner.
Either that guy is the tiniest player I have ever seen or that is the largest volleyball I have ever seen.
Linsley went to Sam Dekker's barber and said "but hold the sass!".
Something to keep an eye on during the tumult of draft week.
GREEN BAY, Wis. -- Just like they did last year with Derek Sherrod, the Green Bay Packers are expected to decline the fifth-year option on former first-round pick Nick Perry's contract.
However, they have the rest of the week before they have to make anything official.
The deadline to exercise 2016 options is Sunday.
The option year would cost the Packers $7.75 million to keep Perry under contract for 2016, and it would be guaranteed for injury immediately. Without it, Perry, the 28th overall pick in 2012, would become a free agent after this season.
Packers would like to have Perry back at a rotational-type paycheck
Whether he and his agent see it that way is another story
That's about as close as the franchise will come to admitting Perry was a bad pick.
Agree.
Datone Jones is next.
Hopefully HaHa has broken the streak of 1st round disappointment.
Always trade down.
Because the answer to guys not living up to their billing is to take guys with less potential and more questions marks?
Yes, that is exactly what I meant.
I agree with the "trade down" this season unless a player TT expected to go in the top 15 is still there.
Value is the name of the game. TT said so himself. (I guess that's not a secret)
Originally Posted by FreeSafety:
Always trade down.
Should have moved down from #24 in 2005.
Originally Posted by michiganjoe:
That's about as close as the franchise will come to admitting Perry was a bad pick.
Bad pick? I wouldn't say that. Who should they have taken? Courtney Upshaw?
Or maybe trade down a few slots & draft Bobby Wagner
It's amazing going back & looking at how bad some drafts really are.
Yep, trust your scouting and convictions, "you" rated guys in an order/tier for a reason.
Originally Posted by Boris:
I agree with the "trade down" this season unless a player TT expected to go in the top 15 is still there.
Value is the name of the game. TT said so himself. (I guess that's not a secret)
Not just value but volume. When beginning to construct rosters, quantity has its own quality. That's one of Ted's non-secrets, too.
That is why you trade down instead of spending so much draft capital on the Bustins of the world.
My rule of thumb for drafting in the second half of the first round (16 or later) is that if I, as a casual college football fan, have heard of the guy - he turns out all right. If not, TT should have traded down.
24th AR12....heard of him
16th Justin Harrell.....WHO?
26th CMIII....heard of him, although I thought 26 was too high for him, I was rong
23rd Bryan Bulaga.......heard of him
32nd Derek Sherrod.......WHO?
28th Nick Perry.......WHO?
26th Datone Jones.......WHO?
21st HaHa.....heard of him
It turns out it is a very easy system.
Prime example of quantity over quality. From the Press Gazette:
It makes me think back to Mike Sherman's three drafts as Packers GM. In 2003, Sherman traded up four times at the cost of four extra picks for defensive tackle Kenny Peterson in the third round; defensive tackle James Lee and linebacker Hunter Hillenmeyer in the fifth; and tackle Brennan Curtin in the sixth.
At the time, I thought Sherman was bold and showing the courage of his convictions. He wasn't. In fact, he either was overly confident in his ability to identify talent, or he panicked when a position of need got thin of players he liked.
All four players busted, so Sherman got nothing out of eight picks. He'd have been better off keeping the four he'd traded, even if it meant picking a little later, and working the odds in his favor.
Actually Hunter played LB'er pretty decent for the Bears. Sherman cut him because he needed to keep 2 friggin punters on the roster
TT doesn't panic.
Just ask Bert and Bus.
Originally Posted by Boris:
Actually Hunter played LB'er pretty decent for the Bears. Sherman cut him because he needed to keep 2 friggin punters on the roster
Looking back, it's actually painful to review some of Shermies GM gaffes. Holy sh**
"To me it doesn't [matter what round a player is taken]," Packers GM Ted Thompson said this week. "We're adding value to the organization. Draft choices and a draft year is value. The question is how much value, and for how long is that value going to be there? That's the way we look at it. You can't get whacked out about the here and now, because that's not the overriding issue. Our overriding issue is making sure we make value picks." - Ted Thompson
I'm truly going to cry when he retires
Originally Posted by Boris:
Bad pick? I wouldn't say that. Who should they have taken?
I'd begin by taking a guy that actually played the position in college rather than attempting to make a position switch. With the benefit of hindsight both Wagner and Lavonte David would have been better picks.
The nature of the draft is you hit some and miss others. That one was just a clear miss by TT.
Originally Posted by Boris:
Originally Posted by michiganjoe:
That's about as close as the franchise will come to admitting Perry was a bad pick.
Bad pick? I wouldn't say that. Who should they have taken? Courtney Upshaw?
Or maybe trade down a few slots & draft Bobby Wagner
It's amazing going back & looking at how bad some drafts really are.
I would have preferred the player selected right after Perry, Harrison Smith, starting at safety in 2012 & 2013 rather than M.D. Jennings/Jerron McMillian.
Seem to recall more than a few fans wanted Smith pre-draft as well.
Originally Posted by michiganjoe:
I'd begin by taking a guy that actually played the position in college rather than attempting to make a position switch. With the benefit of hindsight both Wagner and Lavonte David would have been better picks.
The nature of the draft is you hit some and miss others. That one was just a clear miss by TT.
But it's never that simple. For example, most NFL guards played tackle in college because while they ere top notch athletes for the college game, the NFL requires a different level of athleticism. Most college programs don't play a 3-4, so any NFL team with a 3-4 defense has to project college DE's to NFL 3-4 OLBs. Same with NFL 3-4 DE's; those players were usually 4-3 DT's in college. Same is true with many of the super athletic TEs, guys like Julius Thomas and Jimmy Graham.
Packer Examples: Both Sitton and Lang played primarily OT from their sophomore year on. CMIII did not play 3-4 OLB in college; he was a 4-3 "elephant" DE. Richard Rodgers played WR his senior year. John Kuhn played RB in college. Those are just the obvious ones; if I did the research I'm sure we'd find that almost no player in the defensive front 7 played their current position in college.
I wish it were as simple as drafting players and never switching positions because I agree with the general idea. I got so sick of OL and DL busts b/c they couldn't make the position transition. But that's not the reality of college vs. the NFL.