That's where I'm at as well. Running is great, if it works. Let's just line up and take what the defense gives us. Create mismatches, win the game and GTFO of that shithole.
Blair Kiel posted:Gary double-teamed based upon?
Um, because he was at Michigan?
That's all I got.
It will be interesting to see if #12 can change his stripes and take that open Target for a 5 yard gain when it’s available. IMO, that’s the key to the season.
Agreed. I want to see less extension of plays and more quick passes to move the ball.
BrainDed posted:It will be interesting to see if #12 can change his stripes and take that open Target for a 5 yard gain when it’s available. IMO, that’s the key to the season.
If Mayo isn't running the "Let Aaron Handle It" offense I don't see an issue. My guess is any long ball will actually be a scripted play by Mayo to play to Rodgers strenghs. I truly don't see an issue with Rodgers going to the open man and that means consistently open man, not the 3 second clip of one receiver getting open for one play the entire game.
Henry posted:I'm hoping Kevin King doesn't get hurt.
Didn't realize he was healthy.
Henry posted:The run or the threat of the run didn't mean shit in McVince's offense because it was so predictable.
I used to ask Mrs. Kiel before every 1st and 10 what play we'd be running, and she'd say, "Run up the middle for 2 yards."
Fukk you, Pittsburgh Macho, when a 62-year-old woman who wouldn't know a screen pass from a draw play knows what plays are coming, I kinda think the other team does too.
Something to keep an eye on for Thursday https://t.co/zAQ3Vi3yG5
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 2, 2019
Really have to like angry bald man...
Pettine asked about his first game as a HC vs. Pittsburgh, remembers some being happy the Browns came back and almost beat the Steelers: "There's a word for almost winning, it's losing." https://t.co/AqjGCDsrob
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2019
This will be the 2nd year with Pettine as DC. We’ve put a heck of a lot of draft capital and FA money into the defense. It’s time for a big payoff! That’s what I’m looking for.
I’m looking for three turnovers created by the D
Packers in pads — one of their 14 allotted padded practices — for what is essentially a regular-season Thursday practice (on a normal Sunday game week).
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2019
Three DNPs: WR Darrius Shepherd, ILB Oren Burks, TE Jace Sternberger.... https://t.co/zg02E4mO4k pic.twitter.com/tF8a2sv3qb
As long as Davis is healthy, and yes, that's a huge IF, you won't see Sheppard most of the season. But hopefully that hamstring is minor and heals soon.
Like Kevin King, I'd be thrilled to get >12 games from Trevor Davis. And no, I am not holding my breath.
Matt LaFleur said tight end Jimmy Graham has expressed no concerns about being able to catch the ball despite his right ring finger and pinky being taped together. "He told me, ‘What finger? It's game week,'" LaFleur said. https://t.co/DLzbY8hmim pic.twitter.com/xOCO5ZlBKu
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 2, 2019
Has he expressed concerns about being able to block?
Fedya posted:Has he expressed concerns about being able to block?
No, but Chili has
He couldn’t block if he had 8 hands without tape.
Dick Rodgers was blocking prodigy compared to Graham. Don’t know what else to tell you. Graham is a liability.
Graham is a pass-catching, Hall of Fame, Tight End. Don't know what else to tell you.
Chili just wants to see U-71 ran over and over and over and over...................
I'm thinking Thursday night can't come soon enough for Chilli - he seems a bit wound tight.
Problem is, he then has to wait 10 days for the Viks suck... he hates the Viks almost as much as Satori.
Packer injury report:
Montravius Adams, DL Groin FP
Fadol Brown, DL Calf FP
Bryan Bulaga, T Vet rest LP
Oren Burks, LB Chest DNP
Kenny Clark, DL Ankle FP
Jimmy Graham, TE Finger LP
Ka'dar Hollman, CB Neck LP
Josh Jackson, CB Achilles FP
Aaron Jones, RB Hamstring FP
Kevin King, CB Hamstring LP
Tyler Lancaster, DL Ankle FP
Cole Madison, G Ankle FP
Blake Martinez, LB Back FP
Will Redmond, S Ankle FP
Darrius Shepherd, WR Hamstring DNP
Jace Sternberger, TE Ankle DNP
Danny Vitale, FB Calf FP
Jamaal Williams, RB Hamstring FP
Bears:
| Trey Burton, TE | Groin | LP | |||
| Rashaad Coward, OL | Elbow | DNP |
Geez, why are we even bothering to play the game? Will we be able to suit up 46?
I'd say the only ones out for sure will be Burks, Shepard and Sternberger.
I just want the Packers to kick their ass.....oh, and to shut up the talking heads saying that the Packers are ranked 3rd in the division. 
If Rodgers is as smart as everyone says he is, he will remember last year's second half in Game one vs the Bears. Quick passes that Chicago had a hard time adjusting to. I think our defense will be better. Hopefully it doesn't take a half before they start playing. If they come out playing well, GB will win. Maybe 35-14? Probably more of a wish than a guess. We will see ...........
ammo posted:Chili just wants to see U-71 ran over and over and over and over...................
I'm in!
I see the Packers injury report is already in mid season form.
Anyhow I don't care if the Packers run the ball, I don't care if they use quick passes, I don't care if they play crazy good defense, and I don't care if the final score is 3-0. Just beat the damn Bears.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:If Rodgers is as smart as everyone says he is, he will remember last year's second half in Game one vs the Bears. Quick passes that Chicago had a hard time adjusting to. I think our defense will be better. Hopefully it doesn't take a half before they start playing. If they come out playing well, GB will win. Maybe 35-14? Probably more of a wish than a guess. We will see ...........
Goldie posted:I just want the Packers to kick their ass.....oh, and to shut up the talking heads saying that the Packers are ranked 3rd in the division.
The talking heads aren't wrong. There are a lot of signs pointing to a 5 or 6 win season. However, for the first time in 2-3 years, there are some reasons for optimism beyond just having Aaron Rodgers as a QB. It's just that the talking heads don't look in that much depth.
Reasons for Pessimism
1 The Packers are 13-18-1 the last two seasons.
2. They are 30-24-1 in games Aaron Rodgers has started the last 4 seasons. He will turn 37 this year.
3. Other than Adams, the other 5 WRs are completely unknown outside of Green Bay.
4. Several college teams may have better ILBs than we do
Reasons for Optimism
1. For the first time in a decade, the other teams won't be able to call out the plays before they are run.
2. The WR routes will actually be more than "please beat your guy one on one and get open"
3. Our offensive line and RBs look pretty solid.
4. We have the best LT in football.
5. Jason Spriggs is not the backup tackle.
6. The secondary has more depth than it has in years.
7. Aaron Rodgers is still the QB.
Reasons for optimism:
LaFleur wants to run the ball and will actually use A.Jones creatively. MM’s use or lack thereof of Jones was criminal.
We really have pass rushers now. Pettine can be creative but we have OLBs that can generate pressure. Cm3 and Perry were the starters last year. Ouch.
pessimism:
I’m not sold on M.Adams next to Clark. He and Lowry need to step up.
outside of Alexander, the CBs are a question mark. Can King stay healthy?
50k Club posted:Reasons for optimism:
LaFleur wants to run the ball and will actually use A.Jones creatively. MM’s use or lack thereof of Jones was criminal.
We really have pass rushers now. Pettine can be creative but we have OLBs that can generate pressure. Cm3 and Perry were the starters last year. Ouch.
pessimism:
I’m not sold on M.Adams next to Clark. He and Lowry need to step up.
outside of Alexander, the CBs are a question mark. Can King stay healthy?
Optimism.
I think we will see a team this year that will look like it is enjoying the breath of fresh air
I am very anxious to see an offense that will actually stick with the running game.
Rodgers. I think many in the sports world and some people here have been too quick to write off #12. And I would bet AR has taken notice of that.
Angry bald man. If that defense can stay healthy (looking at you Kevin King) I think they could do some really good things.
Pessimism:
Injuries. This team is always so banged up
MLB depth is very much a concern to me
I think Mr. Clean is creative enough to overcome the ILB depth and we shouldn't use that as an excuse if the D doesn't perform up to standards. Every team has weaknesses.
I expect we see a ton of 3-3-5 with Martinez being the only ILB on the field for first down. The nickle back can be Greene or an additional CB depending on matchups. On running downs or against heavy run teams we go with a more traditional 4-3-4 alignment. There is nothing written in stone that we need to play 3-4 at all. We will play alignment / personnel based on matchups and given that ILB 2 is our current weak link, I don't expect to see them on the field often.
BrainDed posted:I think Mr. Clean is creative enough to overcome the ILB depth and we shouldn't use that as an excuse if the D doesn't perform up to standards. Every team has weaknesses.
I expect we see a ton of 3-3-5 with Martinez being the only ILB on the field for first down. The nickle back can be Greene or an additional CB depending on matchups. On running downs or against heavy run teams we go with a more traditional 4-3-4 alignment. There is nothing written in stone that we need to play 3-4 at all. We will play alignment / personnel based on matchups and given that ILB 2 is our current weak link, I don't expect to see them on the field often.
Good analysis. I think the team is in good shape vs. the run at ILB against the run because of Kenny Clark. Having a Pro Bowl level DT/NG can make even average ILBs look really good against the run. I'm not sure what they are going to do against the pass. The big thing will be to win first down and be able to go to that 3-3-5 alignment in 2nd or 3rd and long. 2nd and 4 means keeping two ILBs on the field to stop the run. 2nd and 9 means the additional CB.