We STILL hold the lead in the all time series, and that team has been playing better lately, with dreams of a wild card playoff berth dancing in their heads.
It's time to break their hearts at Lambeau.
TBSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm hoping you're right about that YA.......I feel the Pack is losing ground, other teams are peaking, and the Pack is like, well, stinking up the joint. 
hope they come to play next week.
I think the best scenario ever would be beating the Bears next week and essentially knocking them out of the playoff race only for the Bears to beat the Spermheads in the last game of the season knocking them out of the playoffs.
Ef the bears and for good measure ef the vikings too
Who gets the second wild card besides the Minnesota team?
Fedya posted:Who gets the second wild card besides the Minnesota team?
Niners/Seahawks - whichever loses that division
Pikes Peak posted:Losing ground to who?
I know, possibly a wrong phrase, but they sure don't look like Super Bowl contenders yet....or do you think they do?? Just asking. I think there is a LOT of room for improvement and not a lot of weeks to do it yet. Just saying. 
MichiganPacker2 posted:Fedya posted:Who gets the second wild card besides the Minnesota team?
Niners/Seahawks - whichever loses that division
Actually, 9er/Hawks loser is #1 wild card. If Viks don't get 2nd WC spot, Rams are next possible.
The Rams' next three games are Seattle, Dallas and SF. They are going to have a lot to say about who makes the playoffs.
MichiganPacker2 posted:Fedya posted:Who gets the second wild card besides the Minnesota team?
Niners/Seahawks - whichever loses that division
Sure they get the first wildcard, but Henry's post suggests the Bears knock Minnesota out of the playoffs, meaning somebody else gets the second wild card. The Rams would have to do well in the last four games to knock Minnesota out.
I should have phrased my post more clearly.
Titans play Saints and they’ll beat them at home in TN
Pikes Peak posted:Losing ground to who?
Forget it, she's rolling.
Rogers spotted at post game presser in camo cap. It's Bears season and he's huntin'!
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I expect the Pack to beat the Bears, beat the Lions, and lose to the Vikings. I’m usually wrong.
Rogers spotted at post game presser in camo cap. It's Bears season and he's huntin'!
It's what the NFL Shop is trying to sell is my guess. I remember ages ago when the NFL started selling the sharktooth hats that suddenly, magically, everybody on the sidelines was wearing one:
(And don't forget they wouldn't let Mike Nolan wear a suit on the sidelines because they wanted him to wear team-branded sh!t.)
Goldie posted:I'm hoping you're right about that YA.......I feel the Pack is losing ground, other teams are peaking, and the Pack is like, well, stinking up the joint.
Who are you? And GTFO out of Goldie's account.
Fedya posted:Who gets the second wild card besides the Minnesota team?
I think you need to take a good look at the Rams.
Who says Spermheads are making the playoffs? They don't have 10 wins yet.
Goldie posted:I'm hoping you're right about that YA.......I feel the Pack is losing ground, other teams are peaking, and the Pack is like, well, stinking up the joint.
To quote Al Davis "just win baby" Even if wins aren't pretty it is still a win.
With that in mind the Packers just need to keep taking care of business and that is especially true this weekend. Nothing would be sweeter than to win this game at home and really damage any chance the Bores have of making the playoffs.
All that being said embrace the hate this week. the Bears and their FIB fans.
YATittle posted:I expect a sweep. I’m sometimes wrong
Happy Thanksgiving!
YATittle posted:I expect a sweep. I’m sometimes wrong
Run the effing table, Packers!
No fucking way TBSS are coming into Lambeau with that shit show and winning.
Cutler 2.0 is going to gift us at least one, maybe two.
Series Records:
- Packers lead all time series 98-95-6.
- The current 3 game edge is tied for the largest advantage Green Bay has ever had - also had after the opener in 2018.
- The Bears largest advantage in the series is 24 games which they've had only twice as well. After loss in Lombardi's 3rd game vs Bears they led 50-26-6, and after a loss in Favre's first game vs Bears they led 81-57-6
- Since that game Green Bay is 41-14
- All Games in Green Bay: Green Bay 48-42-4
- All Games in Chicago: Chicago 53-50-2
Points all time in series:
- Green Bay 3444
- Chicago 3411
Times Being Shut out:
- Green Bay 15 times
- Chicago 14 times
Most points in a game:
- Green Bay 55
- Chicago 61
Largest margin of victory
- Green Bay: 49 (49-0)
- Chicago: 54 (61-7)
Average margin of victory:
- Green Bay: 11.806
- Chicago: 11.832
Most common score by team:
- Green Bay: 17 points (19 times)
- Chicago: 14 points (18 times)
Most common final score:
- 21-0; 20-17; 10-3; 7-6 (4 times each)
Final Score Margin:
- 0: 6 times
- 1-7: 83 times (Green Bay 43-40)
- 8-14: 55 times (Green Bay 28-27)
- 15-21: 33 times (Chicago 18-15)
- 21+: 22 times (Green Bay 12-10)
Longest Winning Streaks Overall:
- Green Bay: 10 (1994-1998)
- Chicago: 8 (1985-1988)
Longest Winning Streaks In Chicago:
- Green Bay: 11 (1994-2005)
- Chicago: 11 (1941-1951)
Longest Winning Streaks in Green Bay:
- Green Bay: 6 (1993-1998)
- Chicago: 5 (1984-1988)
Record by Decade:
- 1920s: Chicago 7-6-3
- 1930s: Chicago 12-11-1
- 1940s: Chicago 16-4-1
- 1950s: Chicago 14-5-1
- 1960s: Green Bay 15-5
- 1970s: Chicago 11-9
- 1980s: Chicago 11-7
- 1990s: Green Bay 13-7
- 2000s: Green Bay 12-8
- 2010s: Green Bay 16-4
So they have owned 6 of 10 decades (first two really close) but 3 of the Packers decades more games were played. Pretty amazing how even things are overall with that much history.
Make Mitch be a QB and things should fall into place.
I am surprised that the 80's were only 11-7. I would have guessed something more like 15-3.
All these years later I still want revenge for that 61-7 beat down from the Bears.
I am also shocked the Bears/Packers was only 11-7 in the 80's I swear it feels like the Packers never beat the Bears in the 80s.
They had the opportunity in the 55 burger game. They took the high road and let up in the second half or they probably could have scored 70.
DH13 posted:I am surprised that the 80's were only 11-7. I would have guessed something more like 15-3.
The Heckler posted:I am also shocked the Bears/Packers was only 11-7 in the 80's I swear it feels like the Packers never beat the Bears in the 80s.
I always think the same thing every time I look at that. I think a lot of that has to do with my (and I'd guess many of us) age. Born in 1970, I was getting to be far more into sports right then. And 1983-1992 there was an 18 game stretch where Chicago went 15-3. So just as I was getting more mature and more into fandom, the Ditka era Bears were just beating us all the time, so that was pretty seared into my brain. But, Green Bay won 4 of 5 to start the 1980's and then swept the 89 series, which offsets a bit that 8 game winning streak (and 10 of 11) Chicago had...
DH13 posted:They had the opportunity in the 55 burger game. They took the high road and let up in the second half or they probably could have scored 70.
It was 42-0 at half. AR had 6 TD passes.
I really really really wanted MM to keep the foot on the gas. I know risking AR, and blah blah blah.
I wanted AR to get to 8 TD passes
I wanted >61 points
I wanted to humiliate them on national TV.
The Heckler posted:All these years later I still want revenge for that 61-7 beat down from the Bears.
Poor Bart.
The image of the pick 6 by Lenny Waltersheid, yes Lenny F'in Waltersheid, is forever seared into my memory.
Bears have won 3 in a row and 4 of 5 while having some key injuries, they haven’t really been blown out much. This is probably going to be a tough game especially based upon how the Packers have been playing. The one thing is that the Bears haven’t run the ball particularly well this season which the Packers can’t seem to stop the run.
Anyone else notice the Bears are on a long week after not having a short week the week before. Now that is like having a second bye.
Packers had a bye before Whiners game. That really helped.
SteveLuke posted:The Heckler posted:All these years later I still want revenge for that 61-7 beat down from the Bears.
Poor Bart.
The image of the pick 6 by Lenny Waltersheid, yes Lenny F'in Waltersheid, is forever seared into my memory.
At the time I remember thinking that perhaps this is the game they finally fire Bart who coached I think three more years.
I am to young to remember Starr the QB but I unfortunately remember Starr the coach. I can still remember the old Bart Starr show in Green Bay that I think aired on Monday nights. After one particularly bad game the only thing Starr had to say positive is showing film of how well David Beverly punted the ball the day before. I swear that's true.
TIMPRANILLO, I think you are right I think it has to do with when you got in to sports. I was born in 66 and the Packers had one good year in 1972 (which I remember but not really well) and then NOTHING really until 1992. Sure a strike shortened playoff appearance and a good year in 89 but that was it really and then a long time with nothing.
DH13 posted:I am surprised that the 80's were only 11-7. I would have guessed something more like 15-3.
5 of those 7 were before 1985 (4 before 1984) and the other 2 were in the Magik season of 1989. Bears won 8 straight (10 out of 11) between there and probably what we all remember from the 80's.
#Packers Matt LaFleur said he watched the #Bears #Cowboys game and said it looked like a dominant performance. Knows Chicago is trending upwards.
— Lily Zhao (@LilySZhao) December 9, 2019
Step 1 - praise the other team no matter who it is.
Yeah, that '85-'91 stretch was the brutal stretch with only the sweep by the Packers in '89 giving us all a brief rest from the misery of those years. I would have never guessed just how much the Pack would turn the tables on them from '92 onwards. The only sweeps I can remember by the Bears over the Pack since that time were '05 and '07. Maybe there's been more but that's all I can remember. There have been many more sweeps in the other direction.
Just glad the game is at Lambeau. Team's about due for a breakout performance and no better time to do it than against your rival.
One thing I think we will fortunately never see again was the genuine hatred these 2 teams had for each other when Forrest Gregg was Packers HC and Ditka was Bears HC. The Bears were significantly more talented, Gregg knew it and had the Pack play dirty at times to try to make up for it. It culminated with the Charles Martin slam of Bears QB Jim McMahon which was about as dirty a play as you'll ever see.
That 1986 Packers team probably would be the lowest point in Packers' history. Not only were they dirty, they sucked, and they had freaking Mossy Cade who committed one of the worst non-murder crimes anyone had ever heard of at the time raping his own Aunt.
As much as I hate to say it Ditka and Bears had every right to hate on the Packers. They sucked, they were dirty, and they were thugs off the field as well. Thank God that infamous period of Packers' history is long gone. Let's hope we never even come close to revisiting it.
michiganjoe posted:Just glad the game is at Lambeau. Team's about due for a breakout performance and no better time to do it than against your rival.
I don't think location matters all that much in this rivalry.
fightphoe93 posted:As much as I hate to say it Ditka and Bears had every right to hate on the Packers. They sucked, they were dirty, and they were thugs off the field as well.
Doug Plank would like a word and to shake your hand for this wonderful take.
But, unfortunately, you've been knocked unconscious after he speared you helmet right in the chin 4 seconds after the whistle blew. Like he did every goddamned play.
PackerHawk posted:michiganjoe posted:Just glad the game is at Lambeau. Team's about due for a breakout performance and no better time to do it than against your rival.
I don't think location matters all that much in this rivalry.
I'd still rather they play on slip n' slide Lambeau turf vs. mortar field.
F*** the Bears, F***Triputski, F***Walter Payton, F***Butkus, F***Urlacher, F***Singletary, F***Ditka, F***George Halas, F***the Fridge, F***Mack, F***Cutler, F***Jim Belushi, F***Nagy waaaaaaaaaaaaa hooooooooo !!!!!!
skully posted:F*** the Bears, F***Triputski, F***Walter Payton, F***Butkus, F***Urlacher, F***Singletary, F***Ditka, F***George Halas, F***the Fridge, F***Mack, F***Cutler, F***Jim Belushi, F***Nagy waaaaaaaaaaaaa hooooooooo !!!!!!
Pikes Peak posted:Abe Gibron
"Jeremiah was a bullfrog!"
Timpranillo posted:DH13 posted:They had the opportunity in the 55 burger game. They took the high road and let up in the second half or they probably could have scored 70.
It was 42-0 at half. AR had 6 TD passes.
I really really really wanted MM to keep the foot on the gas. I know risking AR, and blah blah blah.
I wanted AR to get to 8 TD passes
I wanted >61 points
I wanted to humiliate them on national TV.
Was at that game. The whole second half nobody watched the game and everybody in the stands had a huge bullshit session. It was great.
Looks like Roquan Smith done for year with torn pectoral. Travathan might practice later this week though.
Thought I read that on the bores recent 3 game winning streak their opponent win total was a combined 11 wins, about half of which were the cowturds. Not a ringing endorsement of their "win streak". But who's to say, but I really like our chances at home against them. Pedal to the metal, gas all the way.
yep theres been alot of "gas" the past 5 weeks
The Heckler posted:All these years later I still want revenge for that 61-7 beat down from the Bears.
I am also shocked the Bears/Packers was only 11-7 in the 80's I swear it feels like the Packers never beat the Bears in the 80s.
I felt like it was 99-1 Bears with the ONE being the instant replay game.
michiganjoe posted:Just glad the game is at Lambeau. Team's about due for a breakout performance and no better time to do it than against your rival.
The Packers have been saving their playbook for the last 3 games of the season.
At least that's what I keep telling myself.
Either that or they've been waiting until the last 3 weeks to finally "put it all together".
Kevin Burkhardt, Charles Davis and Pam Oliver on the FOX call of #Packers vs. Bears from Lambeau on Sunday.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) December 10, 2019
Is there anyway this game can get flexed to late game? Navigating through family events and this would help greatly. I’ve got $10 to make it happen.
Already flexed Buffalo to late slot as they've been given little exposure this year despite great work.
Thunderbird posted:michiganjoe posted:Just glad the game is at Lambeau. Team's about due for a breakout performance and no better time to do it than against your rival.
The Packers have been saving their playbook for the last 3 games of the season.
At least that's what I keep telling myself.
The final three games of the season are going to be the Divisional round, the NFCCG, and the Super Bowl.
DH13 posted:Either that or they've been waiting until the last 3 weeks to finally "put it all together".
They’re just sandbagging til the playoffs.
So with all that we are talking about on this thread the one thing we are missing is why we hate the Bears.
FIBS. anyone growing up in Wisconsin knows what I am talking about. FIBS everywhere in the summer time. UGH
The constant talk about the 85 Bores. Yeah I get it you won the Super Bowl ONCE and you still brag about it 34 years later? 
Ditka, Singletary, McMahon, Mongo, the Fridge, etc. screw them and anyone that has played for them.
Let the hate flow X4!
Kevin Butthead Butler. God damnit that kicker killed the Packers in the 80's.
I did like Willie Gault dropping passes though 😁
fightphoe93 posted:Bears sucked, they were dirty, and they were thugs off the field as well.
For those of you who were not in Platteville when they came to town. The superb owl team with a few exceptions, were some truly vile excuses of humanity. It was amazing how many turned a blind eye to the numerous crimes committed.
This is the 200th meeting between these two teams and the first noon Bears/Packers game at Lambeau since 2008!
Aaron Rodgers has a career passer rating of 110.7 in regular season home games in December and January. That's No. 1 in NFL history (min. 200 pass attempts). Forecast calls for a high of 15 degrees on Sunday at Lambeau.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) December 11, 2019
let's hope that we have a great win then...onward and upward. skidoosh.
Someone tweeted that if we win and the Vikes lose to Chargers we clinch the division. I don't see how that could be.
PackerHawk posted:This is the 200th meeting between these two teams and the first noon Bears/Packers game at Lambeau since 2008!
I'm kinda surprised it hasn't been flexed yet. So, i looked at the NFL Flex guidelines and it says they have to flex a game 12 days out. Except for week 17. Week 17, in order to ensure a Sunday night game with playoff implications, the decision to move the start time may be made on six days notice.
They already flexed Buffalo. Made the Packers Bears game a national contest that we are getting in CA.
YATittle posted:Someone tweeted that if we win and the Vikes lose to Chargers we clinch the division. I don't see how that could be.
wed be up 2 games with 2 to play, and would own the tie breaker based on division record
This means that if the Packers win out, they get Wild Card weekend off and a home game in the divisional playoffs, most probably against New Orleans or an NFC Wild Card team that most likely would be Minnesota or either the 49ers or Seattle Seahawks (whichever team doesn't win the NFC West).
Home field advantage in the NFC playoffs
In the chase for the NFC's No. 1 seed, the Packers need a lot of help.
Three things are necessary for that to happen:
- The Packers must win their remaining four games
- The San Francisco 49ers must lose two games
- The Seattle Seahawks must lose one more game
Considering the fact that those teams have matchups against each other (49ers-Seahawks on Dec. 29), the odds of all those losses happening are, to be kind, not the best.
I'd love to get the Saints at Lambeau after a week off as they're banged up and not as strong a team on the road.
If Rodgers hits the new TE in stride, that's probably a TD. Something I hope MLF is pointing out to AR.
Yea yea yea... You'll get your looks eventually rookie!
— Ben Fennell (@BenFennell_NFL) December 11, 2019
Rookie TE Jace Sternberger open on a deep backside vertical - ball went to Jimmy Graham but one day he'll get the targets! pic.twitter.com/qz7rbjnFNh
I don't think it will happen no I don't think they will get the #1 because of Seahawks easier schedule.
The 49ers could lose two more games. They are at the Seahawks and they play the Rams who are playing much better.
Seattle would have to lose a game against the Panthers or Cardinals which I don't think will happen.
The Saints could get the #1 but like the Packers I believe they will need some help to get there. They finish with Colts, Titans, and Panthers. I could see them losing to the Titans who are playing way better and the Colts.
I think the Spermheads look like they are pretty much a lock for the wild card. They finish with at the Chargers, GB, and Bores at home.
If the Packers get in I am happy with one home game in the playoffs and take it from there.
Saw this on Twitter and thought Jace needs throw a waving arm up while running the route. Make the QB see you!
Sternberger also did a pretty good job of blocking on Jones' 42-yard run. Need to see more of he and Tonyan and less of Graham.
Yes, let's get the youth out there.... One of them could be this year's James Starks.
Ok I have jinxed the Packers and there is no longer a need to continue this thread as I just decided to go the game. Every few years I go to a Packers - Bears game at Lambeau and the Packers always lose. Every stinking time (I still have nightmares of the Walter Payton memorial game) and I always tell myself never a Bears game and I keep doing it. I will accept all the hate this will bring me but I am a masochist.
WolfPack posted:YATittle posted:Someone tweeted that if we win and the Vikes lose to Chargers we clinch the division. I don't see how that could be.
wed be up 2 games with 2 to play, and would own the tie breaker based on division record
There's a 2% chance of the Packers missing the playoffs entirely even if they win Sunday and the Vikings lose.
I hope nothing is clinched come Sunday night. I want the Rams to beat the Cowboys and keep hot on the tail of the Vikings.
hmm i was wrong , division record would be tied in that scenario and we would lose out on third tie breaker, conf record. ok, nothing officially clinched (except butt cheeks) Sunday
I agree with JSO that the next three games (barring the loins game being meaningless) are really the start of our playoffs. I understand, that for now, none of these games are must win, however; a loss this week would have tremendous impact on the rest of the season. It would keep shitcago in the playoff hunt, it allows the queens to catch up with us, and it basically wipes out any chance for a bye week. Despite all of the worry about the offense, the onus is on our defense to shut down shitcago. I don't see us scoring a ton of points, but the defense needs to make sure that we don't need that many to win.
GratefulPack posted:Ok I have jinxed the Packers and there is no longer a need to continue this thread as I just decided to go the game. Every few years I go to a Packers - Bears game at Lambeau and the Packers always lose. Every stinking time (I still have nightmares of the Walter Payton memorial game) and I always tell myself never a Bears game and I keep doing it. I will accept all the hate this will bring me but I am a masochist.
That's the most hate I can give. 😆
We could lose 2 out of three or 3 of the next three or win out.
Just can't see them losing all 3. Losing 2 out of 3 is possible as Bears are getting some players back & Vikings are always tough at home.
Can't see them losing to the Lions but stranger things have happened.
11-5 is nearly 99% assured.
It all starts with beating the Bears.
Beat. The. Bears. Into. Submission.
I would totally bowl a 250 with the flu.
I now understand where some of our posters are coming from,
oshbaul posted:I would totally bowl a 250 with the flu.
What did your good pal Le'Veon roll?
Pikes Peak posted:I now understand where some of our posters are coming from,
And the other half may be on altered states of inhalants...
I miss WI sometimes...
GratefulPack posted:Ok I have jinxed the Packers and there is no longer a need to continue this thread as I just decided to go the game. Every few years I go to a Packers - Bears game at Lambeau and the Packers always lose. Every stinking time (I still have nightmares of the Walter Payton memorial game) and I always tell myself never a Bears game and I keep doing it. I will accept all the hate this will bring me but I am a masochist.
Oh you are as much of a jinx as I am. I have seen the Packers play in many places and I think out of the 15 or so games I have seen they have won maybe 3 or 4 times.
I personally think the game this week is the season that is how critical I think it is. They have to win to put pressure on the spermheads.
Tom Oates: Packers' offensive line needs to step up vs. Bears
In games where the Packers have struggled the most, there is a common theme: They faced a defense with a tough, physical, aggressive front that dominates the line of scrimmage and has outstanding edge rushers who can help the defense get to the quarterback without resorting to blitzing.
The Bears defense fits that description perfectly, which is why the outcome of Sunday’s game won’t depend on LaFleur or Rodgers or Jones. Instead, the game will be decided by the play of the Packers offensive line.
If you look at those games though, it wasn't solely the offensive line that struggled. AR has to help his OL out and give them some confidence. If he's dancing around all day then he's just inviting trouble.
This cracked me up. I wish the NFL would make raw audio of players being mic'd up available. Obviously it's edited down to a hilarious extent, I'd like to hear the bullshit that is said on the field though.
Urlacher/Bears came up with dirty checks to counter Packers offense
Packers 4-0 when Jones has 20 or more touches - 6-3 otherwise
I do think this is more a matter of Jones affecting the outcome of the game and not the score of the game dictating more touches. He was a big part of the reason why these games were won.
They have done a great job of managing Jones' load this year but I think for at least the next two weeks there should be an effort to get him at least 20-25 touches. The screen game and quick passes will negate the Bears and Vikings pass rush.
Every #Packers player practicing today except TE Marcedes Lewis (stationary bike) and Josh Jackson (personal).
— Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) December 12, 2019
Personal for Jackson is his father's funeral and Lewis is likely just getting veteran rest.
The Heckler posted:GratefulPack posted:Ok I have jinxed the Packers and there is no longer a need to continue this thread as I just decided to go the game. Every few years I go to a Packers - Bears game at Lambeau and the Packers always lose. Every stinking time (I still have nightmares of the Walter Payton memorial game) and I always tell myself never a Bears game and I keep doing it. I will accept all the hate this will bring me but I am a masochist.
Oh you are as much of a jinx as I am. I have seen the Packers play in many places and I think out of the 15 or so games I have seen they have won maybe 3 or 4 times.
I personally think the game this week is the season that is how critical I think it is. They have to win to put pressure on the spermheads.
I have seen 3 Packer games in Lambeau. First was October 12, 2003, a 40-34 loss to the Chiefs. Chiefs may have been undefeated at the time. Pack got it to OT (they had some unlucky bounces of the ball resulting in them falling behind early). Ahman Green fumbled and the next play was something like a 70 yard TD bomb.
Radio guys on the ride home from the game said it was probably the most crushing regular season loss they could think of.
The middle one was awesome. Vikes tied it late with two scores. Pack made a FG as time expired. Third one was a loss to Carolina where two times in a row (last two drives) Carolina completed long passes to Steve Smith who was a beast that day. Tough close loss.
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