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michiganjoe posted:

Definitely not ideal.

Also a misnomer to call anything Spriggs does as "blocking".

Maybe he's into color blocking and he'll dazzle Mack with his savvy fashion sense.

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michiganjoe posted:

Definitely not ideal.

Mercedes Lewis needs to be conjoined to Spriggs hip. 

Likely to see a heavy dose of Williams at RB for chip help as well. 

michiganjoe posted:

Definitely not ideal.

Put a counter on Springs like the turnstiles have.

packerboi posted:
michiganjoe posted:

Definitely not ideal.

Mercedes Lewis needs to be conjoined to Spriggs hip. 

Likely to see a heavy dose of Williams at RB for chip help as well. 

Or run right at him with Aaron Jones. No reason at this point to play scared. Let's forget about the 40 yard bombs down the sideline on 3rd and 1 -  rather run the ball early and often and kick some arse. 

Don't bother pass blocking any more than absolutely necessary. 

Timpranillo posted:

It's bears week. I wonder if some of you have gotten soft. That some of you haven't considered this a "real" rivalry because we've been pounding them for nearly 25 years. And to be a "real" rivalry, you need to see both teams win games.  Some of you think "oh, well they are just like the Packers. Old school. Tough. Original NFL. At least I can have a tiny bit of respect for them? 

FUKK. THAT. Yeah. I don't care if you've read my rant before. 

Does 9-4 change things now? Does a first place bears team all of a sudden make you get up for this? Does cocky bear fans coming out of the woodwork after a win over the Rams make you remember what the bears and their slapdick fans have always been like? I told you - the second this franchise has even the barest bit of success, they would go full Cubs obnoxious.  Go listen to The Score 670 for a few minutes and hear Dan McNeil ramble for a bit. Or go to ESPN Chicago, maybe listen to Waddle and Silvy or Jurkovic.  Does that get your blood boiling? It better. 

The Packers could win 43 straight games against them, we should still be filled with hate of 1000 white hot suns as they go for win 44 in a row, and desire a 77-0 beatdown.  There should be no empathy.  There should be no feelings.  There should be no respect. F**k the bears previously.  F**k the bears today.  F**k the bears forever.  

61-7.  Jim McMahon wearing a goddamned bears jersey to the Packers trip to the Whitehouse. That 900 pound toad Dan Jiggetts and his criminal sidekick Mike North. Perry over Cumby.  Ditka. Kevin goddamned Butler.  Their goddamned horrific field.  Dan Hampton.  Their fans.  Dan Singletary and his stupid goddamned eyes. Doug Plank.  Buddy Ryan.  Hub Arkush.  Doug Buffone.  Butkus.  THEIR F**KING FANS.  

Look at this HERPADERP mofo.

 

No pity.  No mercy.  F**k the bears.  

With that, let's review the new and improved best wins over the bears. 

 1. NFCC game 1/23/11 21-14 win.  For pure importance it doesn't get bigger than this.  Literally it can't be, unless rules are changed for who can play for SB.  Only the 2nd playoff meeting of all time.  In Chicago.  Winner goes to the Super Bowl.  I've never been so amped/nervous/demented about a game in my life.  Mainly because I'm confident my father would have died that day if the Packers lost.  But, also because as disappointing it would have been to lose the NFCC, losing the NFCC to the Bears would have been an absolute horror show.  I sometimes think beating the Bears in the NFCC was more satisfying than the Super Bowl win, as no matter what - we will always be able to say we beat them at their place and prevented them from going to the Super Bowl.  That said, I know the win wouldn't mean as much without the SB title.

2. We Have A Reversal 11/5/89 14-13 win.  I'm a sophomore college at Illinois.  Surrounded by Bears fans.  The emotions of that play go from elation to getting trash talked to doing the trash talking.  Ditka still pissed off to this day.  The asterisk.  Plus, at the time you really thought this was a resurgence of the Packers after years of hot garbage, as well as a win in a 3-18 stretch vs them.  

3. COBB!!!!! 12/29/13 33-28 win.  Maybe the 3rd most important game in terms of playoff impact.  Rodgers first game after coming back from collarbone.  Winner goes to playoffs.  Great game back and forth.  Boykin with the crazy fumble recovery TD and of course the Cobb TD pass after Rodgers just missed getting killed by Peppers.   I was SCREAMING about Jordy getting murdered on that play and it wasn't called.  Thank god we don't have to relive that missed call.

4. Taken by Chester Marcol! 9/7/80 12-6 win.  The glasses.  The single bar facemask.  A guy named Chester.  Sudden Death.  Craziest ending ever.  I hope he still has that football...

5. Epic Beatdown 11/9/14  55-14 win.  I lived through 61-7.  I heard Dan friggin Jiggetts talk about it on Chicago radio every 12 minutes.  Knowing that they probably could have put up 80 and backed off is almost better than topping 61-7.  Honestly, it's one thing I'll never forgive McCarthy for, he doesn't take the foot off the gas, they drop 70 easily and AR has the record for TDs in a game.  

6. The Comeback 09/08/18 24-23. I think this one gets pulled into the conversation of best ones. Rodgers goes out and it looks like he's done for the year. Kizer looks like. I mean, the worst QB in the history of the game. Mack's strip sack, his INT. Early in the 3rd, it's 20-0 bears. Then Rodgers miraculously returns. The bomb to Allison. The drive where Adams kills them. Then Cobb time. Would feel much better about this had the season as a whole not turned to shit. But, even if the season turns to shit, you still can go 2-0 vs the bears and all is not lost. 

7. The Monsoon game 10/31/94 33-6 win.  Torrential rain.  Throw back uniforms.  Favre "running" for that 36 yard TD.  Sayers and Butkus getting their jerseys retired at halftime and then pour it on more in 2nd half.  I really thought we were up much bigger at half, but it was only 14-0.  Monday night game that introduced the nation to the new Green Bay Packers.  Cannot for the life of me find any video at all from that game.

Again.  F**k.  The.  bears.  ALWAYS.  Sweep the leg.  No mercy.

Thats some post, Timpranillo  if that doesnt get your blood flowing, ur not Human.

Mike Singletary to speak at West’s Kickoff Dinner

I always thought he was on amphitamines

The challenge is to outsmart them, something I have some confidence Philbin can do.

There's an advantage here: Our new coach is actually unscouted.

They are still going to be watching the tape, on the assumption it is the same offense.  So start with a slow paced offense, some deep drops-- same old same old--then when they are pinning their ears back after Rodgers, start doing screen passes left and right, along with slants, draws, and anything new.  Run the hurry up offense. No huddle.  2 minute drill when it's not 2 minutes, with the goal being only to move the chains.  

Put them on their fricken heels and make the fat ones huff and puff.   That's how you beat guys like Mack.  Hurry up; don't let them rest between plays, and tire them out. 

When they start to get tired is when you go heavy with the running game.  That's when you can hopefully psych them out as well.

Basically let them know that to us, the Bears still suck. 

All this Bears hype is nothing more than hype at this point.  I'm sick of it already. They ain't done shit yet.

Pistol GB posted:

All this Bears hype is nothing more than hype at this point.  I'm sick of it already. They ain't done shit yet.

  that's for sure,   I'm sick of it also,   last week QB Mitch Trubisky threw 3 interceptions and a blistering  QB rating of 33.3,     that's not exactly what legends are made of.    

The strategy should be to have Lewis line up in the slot just a few steps off tackle.  Every other play he just goes and punishes Mack after he starts his rush.   Get in his head that there is a big, mean, mother lover looking to hit him from the side and it's guaranteed to slow him down.  

Henry posted:
Pistol GB posted:

There's an advantage here: Our new coach is actually unscouted.

 

Except that time as the OC of the Packers and HC of the Dolphins.

McCarthy has been calling all the plays.  And making the in-game decisions.  And setting the game plans.

It started already last week!  You know, that game you didn't watch.  The offense was getting plays called and getting to the line with 10 seconds on the clock.  That never happened with McCarthy at the helm.

The offense has already started looking different, and better, and getting rhythm, for the first time all season.  I'd venture to say it is because there is a new coach.  And I'd say he's in a position to bring some unscouted looks and game plans for this team, with this quarterback, that are pretty dang far removed from what he did at Miami.   

Run the ball right at them! Heavy doses of Jones and Williams can get the Bears defense reeling, especially if we have the lead late in the game. No throwing 30 yards downfield on 3rd and 1 unless our WR can catch the ball. I doubt ARod will have the time to wait for a WR to get open with Chicago's defense and pass rush, so quick rhythm passes are the key. Crossing routes or slants can keep us in manageable yardage and will move the chains.  Crosby may be the difference in this game. It's time to play inspired football! We've beaten them once this year. We can do it again and yes, the Bears Suck!

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I'll be interested to see how often we use the two back set.  It's pretty obvious that Williams is the better blocker and Jones is the better runner, but having them both on the field I would think keeps the bears in a base defense. It gives us more options in the screen game as well. 

2WR, 1TE, 2 RB set might allow us the best combination of players for blocking and quick throws.  But what do I know?

DocBenni posted:

I'll be interested to see how often we use the two back set.  It's pretty obvious that Williams is the better blocker and Jones is the better runner, but having them both on the field I would think keeps the bears in a base defense. It gives us more options in the screen game as well. 

2WR, 1TE, 2 RB set might allow us the best combination of players for blocking and quick throws.  But what do I know?

I think that Williams is the better call for RB  on those 3rd and 1 plays. 

Pistol GB posted:
Henry posted:
Pistol GB posted:

There's an advantage here: Our new coach is actually unscouted.

 

Except that time as the OC of the Packers and HC of the Dolphins.

McCarthy has been calling all the plays.  And making the in-game decisions.  And setting the game plans.

It started already last week!  You know, that game you didn't watch.  The offense was getting plays called and getting to the line with 10 seconds on the clock.  That never happened with McCarthy at the helm.

The offense has already started looking different, and better, and getting rhythm, for the first time all season.  I'd venture to say it is because there is a new coach.  And I'd say he's in a position to bring some unscouted looks and game plans for this team, with this quarterback, that are pretty dang far removed from what he did at Miami.   

Yeah, according to all press reports it looked like 2011.  Let me know how you answer for his 3 years as HC of the Dolphins.  He wasn't hired because of his defensive acumen.

Of course he can bring "unscouted" looks.  Any coach can if they choose to do so. Saying Philbin is unscouted is patently false.  Oh shit!  We have no film on Philbin as OC or HC at all!  What a wildcard!  Saying Philbin is getting the offense to operate more smoothly would be accurate. 

BTW, you can actually find recorded video of games now.  Crazy right? 

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DocBenni posted:

2WR, 1TE, 2 RB set might allow us the best combination of players for blocking and quick throws.  But what do I know?

More than most people, doc....more than most people. 

Henry, I realize it is in your DNA to get the last word in and it is pointless for me to continue, but if you think the Bears are digging up tape from 2011 to prepare for this game, that, in my opinion, is what would be crazy.  

You're nitpicking. 

And you're the one who said you didn't watch it. 

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Henry posted:

Of course he can bring "unscouted" looks.  Any coach can if they choose to do so.

Except for one, right?  The Irish guy? We can agree on that.

Sorry I don't use your clever names for Mike McCarthy, btw, LOL.  Here's some emoji icon gremlin thingies.  You love those.

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You actually think the Bears aren't using every resource available to them?   Really?  You just called an established OC and HC as "unscouted" and believe it's the key to the game.  Call me kooky but that's not nitpicking, that's calling for a reality check.  

And as far as watching the game, you seem to think that was a way to delegitimize correcting your false statement as the key to the game.  There are all kinds of media that allows one to read, view and hear about incidents that happened earlier.  The funny thing is I needed none of it to make my point.

Pistol GB posted:
Henry posted:

Of course he can bring "unscouted" looks.  Any coach can if they choose to do so.

Except for one, right?  The Irish guy? We can agree on that.

Sorry I don't use your clever names for Mike McCarthy, btw, LOL.  Here's some emoji icon gremlin thingies.  You love those.

That's what "choose" means.  

We can't all be boring.  Plus, I can't remember the last time I used an emoji.  Gifs and memes fool.

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BrainDed posted:

The strategy should be to have Lewis line up in the slot just a few steps off tackle.  Every other play he just goes and punishes Mack after he starts his rush.   Get in his head that there is a big, mean, mother lover looking to hit him from the side and it's guaranteed to slow him down.  

Hell, just make Spriggs eligible for every play and line up Lewis at RT.  Might be able to keep Mack guessing at least.  Unless Spriggs actually trips Lewis trying to "block".  I cannot believe how exponentially horrible Spriggs is.  Better use that unscouted offense to get Rodgers the hell out of the pocket in a hurry.  Maybe Lewis can stunt and be Rodgers ripcord. 

Hell, just turn Rodgers into Cam Newton with Lewis lead blocking on every play.  Unscouted!

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Pistol GB posted:
Henry posted:
Pistol GB posted:

There's an advantage here: Our new coach is actually unscouted.

 

Except that time as the OC of the Packers and HC of the Dolphins.

McCarthy has been calling all the plays.  And making the in-game decisions.  And setting the game plans.

It started already last week!  You know, that game you didn't watch.  The offense was getting plays called and getting to the line with 10 seconds on the clock.  That never happened with McCarthy at the helm.

The offense has already started looking different, and better, and getting rhythm, for the first time all season.  I'd venture to say it is because there is a new coach.  And I'd say he's in a position to bring some unscouted looks and game plans for this team, with this quarterback, that are pretty dang far removed from what he did at Miami.   

I hope you are right, but let's not forget it was Atlanta in GB in Dec last week.

michiganjoe posted:

Don't expect the Packers to fool Vic Fangio. Probably need a stellar game from AR and some turnovers from the defense for a real shot.

Rodgers needs to play the same way he did in the 2nd half when he had one leg when they played in week 1. 

In the pocket, quick release, quick hitters, take the underneath stuff.  Fangio had little answers for that. They planned for a sandlot Rodgers running around the field. Philbin should be reviewing and reviewing and reviewing that 2nd half film. Rodgers played the Bears very well in those 2 Quarters.

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