The Packers will be facing a pissed off 0-2 team. That's always dangerous.
Still, a very winnable game for MLF and co. We should be looking at a 3-0 team by late Sunday afternoon.
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Tests on Darnell Savage's shin showed just a bone contusion, his agent Seth Katz told ESPN. Expect a light week of on-field activity, but the rookie starting safety is preparing as if he will play Sunday against the Broncos. The 21st pick in the draft... https://t.co/crsRyYlDct
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I'm hoping we see more from that fullback that was so impressive in camp. Pass receptions and things like that.
I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards.
Found on the internet: To open the season 2-0 â let alone both wins coming against division opponents â puts a team on the right track for the postseason. Since 2007, teams that start 2-0 have a 55.1% chance of reaching the postseason, though that trend has cooled the last few years.
In 2018, five of the seven teams to begin 2-0 did not make the playoffs and in 2016 and 2017 four of the eight teams that began those seasons with two victories were sitting home in January.
As for the Packers, a 2-0 start is relatively rare in the Aaron Rodgers era. Since taking over as the starter in 2008, this season is just the fifth time the Packers have won their first two games (with final regular-season record):
2008: 6-10
2010: 10-6, Super Bowl champions
2011: 15-1
2015: 10-6
Here's to hoping for sweet revenge for Super Bowl XXXII. Okay, bad joke, there can never really be any revenge for that debacle.
3-0 would look really nice after a 6-10 season. The Packers haven't played well enough to think this is a "gimme" but this one in theory should be one of the lesser games on the schedule in terms of toughness. Do not look ahead to the Eagles, focus on this one and make darn sure you've got a good plan to control Miller and Chubb. Keep those guys from wreaking havoc on Rodgers and Co. and I like the Pack's chances.
PackerHawk posted:I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards.
I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly. Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced.
It's the NFL...anything can happen week-to-week.
Broncos offense shouldnt be a tough assignment for the revamped D.
Could be another ugly contest but just win baby.
Looking for a second receiver to emerge soon. I'd throw a PA go route to Kumarow on the first play.
My main concern with Denver is new HC Vic Fangio knows Rodgers and co. Packers still have advantage with unscouted looks on offense and revamped D.
fightphoe93 posted:PackerHawk posted:I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards.
I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly. Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced.
I agree, but more because of the likelihood that Bakh will be much less likely to play on a short week. It took him all 7 days to get his back into shape to play against the Vikings and it's clear he's not himself given how well bull rushes are working on him so far this year.
Flacco is a great test for Pettine's defense (now that he has some talent to implement his schemes) because he's the type of QB that always ate up Capers' defenses more than they should have. Steady, veteran QBs that didn't make stupid mistakes were always a problem for Dom's defenses (the superstar QBs ate them up too, but you expect that).
The Thursday night games are often terrible because it's often just a war of attrition. Bakh may still be the 2nd most important player on offense (right up there with D. Adams) because he's both an All-Pro level player but also because the drop off to his backup is huge. Alex Light lining up at LT in a prime-time game would be a problem. Although at least it wouldn't be Jason Spriggs.
RE: Eagles. They have lost one of their core DL in Malik Jackson. That's a huge loss. His back up, Tim Jerginson, left in a walking boot on Sunday. That looks like he could also miss GB.
And then there's Alshon. Who's hurt again:
#Eagles WR Alshon Jeffery is dealing with a calf strain, source said, following Sunday night football. Itâs not major, but with two games in 10 days, the timing is bad. His status for those is in some doubt.
â Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) September 16, 2019
What about DeSean?
Oh. And I have said this a slew of times on here. I'll say it again. I'll say it next week.
to Thursday night games. If the new CBA does ANYTHING, at least fix these TNF games. Complete bullshit. Completely unnecessary risk to player injuries. This coming from a league who claims to care so much about player safety.
NFLFU
fightphoe93 posted:PackerHawk posted:I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards.
I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly. Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced.
Flacco this week will be the best QB they have faced. LOL.
I like Wentz but he looks really up and down this year - so far.
packerboi posted:Oh. And I have said this a slew of times on here. I'll say it again. I'll say it next week.
to Thursday night games. If the new CBA does ANYTHING, at least fix these TNF games. Complete bullshit. Completely unnecessary risk to player injuries. This coming from a league who claims to care so much about player safety.
NFLFU
Yes. Especially since there is a way that they could get almost as many Thursday games in by just setting it up so that two teams that had a bye the previous week could play the Thursday game.
Having the game at home for the Thursday is a huge advantage as well, especially since the Packers don't have to travel back from a road game on Sunday.
I for one wish they just stopped Thursday night games all together. Like others have said if the NFL truly was serious about player safety they would do away with those games.
Do away with Thursday night. It sucks.
If they MUST keep it, then Thursday games only after both teams have a bye.
Then..... ZOMG....how about (2) Thursday games!
Whoops. Let another million $$$ idea slip out
GreenBayLA posted:My main concern with Denver is new HC Vic Fangio knows Rodgers and co. Packers still have advantage with unscouted looks on offense and revamped D.
Fangina knew TBSS better than anyone, how'd that work out for him?
Boris posted:Do away with Thursday night. It sucks.
If they MUST keep it, then Thursday games only after both teams have a bye.
Then..... ZOMG....how about (2) Thursday games!
Whoops. Let another million $$$ idea slip out
Why not Wednesday and Thursday night games? It's probably coming at some point. The only reason they stay away from Friday and Saturday is that they don't want to interfere with their free talent development programs (high school and college games).
GB is 2-0 but there are no gimmee games in the NFL. I like where this team is going but they need to continue getting better, especially on offense.
Soft rebuild, year 1. Every game will be a battle.
The Packers OL getting a lot of grief on local sports radio today for their play in the 1st 2 weeks. Week one was ugly, but consider the team they played. Of the 6 sacks Rodgers has taken in 2 games, you'd have to think a couple are probably on AR.
And I think MLF has to make a decision on Jenkins vs Taylor. Those watching the tape say Elton is the better athlete and is making the most of the reps he's getting. If that's true and the rookie is the future at LG, then make a decision and make him the full-time starter. This OL needs to gel and it's hard to do that when you still have moving pieces at G
Jenkins has held his own physically, but they may be wanting to bring him along slowly with the mental side. For all of Taylor's physical deficiencies, he's a savvy veteran OL who generally makes correct reads in pass pro. If we don't need Jenkins in there right away (which we don't, Taylor is fine), then I think bringing him along slowly is correct. I'm way more concerned about Billy Turner getting whipped by power moves than I am about Taylor. He's gotten worked over with that bull rush the first two weeks, can't have interior pressure when you're facing elite edge players.
This is going to be another tough week for our OTs. The Vikings bull rushed the shit out of Bakhtiari and his fucked up back. He gave up a lot of hurries it seems. He's going to face another power rusher in Chubb this week, so I hope that back is healing up! Rodgers will need to get the ball out quick and do a better job stepping up int the pocket. Can't sit idle on a 7 or 10 step drop and wait, gotta step up or let the ball go.
That's been AR's problem for awhile now (Getting the ball out quickly).
I'm going to the game this weekend and am really looking forward to seeing the whole field. TV cameras typically focus on the QB and we are left with seeing AR just dance around and hang onto the ball. I am curious to see if guys are open and he isn't seeing them or if everybody is covered.
Pakrz posted:That's been AR's problem for awhile now (Getting the ball out quickly).
I'm going to the game this weekend and am really looking forward to seeing the whole field. TV cameras typically focus on the QB and we are left with seeing AR just dance around and hang onto the ball. I am curious to see if guys are open and he isn't seeing them or if everybody is covered.
Yep. No arguments here. For those wondering why AR is still occasionally showing that same habit, I think we have to remind ourselves he didn't get into the sandlot style football/waiting forever for a guy to get open overnight.
That was years of being in an inept, stale offense where he developed those bad habits. Coupled with his complete disdain to throwing INT's. Then add to that, having a QB coach in Frank Cignetti who reportedly AR hated and had no respect for and a HC in MM who tuned out.
I fully believe MLF can get AR out of those habits including some bad footwork he's still showing here and there. But it's going to take some time.
Boris posted:Do away with Thursday night. It sucks.
If they MUST keep it, then Thursday games only after both teams have a bye.
Then..... ZOMG....how about (2) Thursday games!
Whoops. Let another million $$$ idea slip out
2 MNF games each week then? 
The Packers got some help in the return game today, and depth in the secondary, signing Chefs CB Tremon Smith from waivers. His 26.8 AVG on kickoffs last year was fourth-best in the NFL.
Mike Pettine is a great defensive coordinator, but this is taking defensive schemes and deception to a whole new level. If we sign just one more Smith on defense, we'll have officially entered the Matrix.
I think a consistent pattern of successful play calling from MLF will be the only thing that gets AR calmed down. He played within the scheme through 3 series and got it done, but things started to stall and he seemed to revert to trying to do too much or overthink what needs to be done. Sometimes I think AR puts too much pressure on himself to win the game on his own at the expense of the game plan. Gameplans arenât perfect and thereâs plenty of room for improvisation, but thereâs no clear strategy to ARâs style besides push the ball down the field with no concern for down, distance, game situation, etc. MFL had a good plan for MIN, more of that and I think AR will fully buy in and do it his way.
DeSean Jackson has an abdominal strain that is expected to sideline him for about two weeks, according to sources.
The Broncos offense was able to put up some yards on the Bears. And Flacco passed for more yards than AR did against them. And the Broncos had a pretty good drive at the end of the game.
I don't think Flacco's gonna see another SB, or ProBowl for that matter. But there's some talent on Denver. And if there D is forceful, it could make for a long day for the Packers. I don't see it as a gimme win at all.
Defense with 3 INT's off Shane Falco.
Offense doing just enough to win.
I see this game as a Cakewalk. Another snoozer.
3 weeks in a row against arguably a top 10 defense.
fightphoe93 posted:Here's to hoping for sweet revenge for Super Bowl XXXII. Okay, bad joke, there can never really be any revenge for that debacle.
3-0 would look really nice after a 6-10 season. The Packers haven't played well enough to think this is a "gimme" but this one in theory should be one of the lesser games on the schedule in terms of toughness. Do not look ahead to the Eagles, focus on this one and make darn sure you've got a good plan to control Miller and Chubb. Keep those guys from wreaking havoc on Rodgers and Co. and I like the Pack's chances.
To protect Rodgers from Miller and Chubb, Rodgers must get rid of the ball quicker than he usually does. Quick rhythm plays should help with that. Fangio and Co. got skewered by the refs against Chicago. They will be looking for some sort of redemption but, it will have to wait until next week. If Rodgers and the Offense plays to their potential and the Defense plays to their normal game, the Pack should win this one. GO PACK, GO!!!
Miller and Chubb have done nothing ....yet. Lots of agnst out here in the mountains.
IMHO if the defense keeps it up they will make is really hard on Denver to score. But, what does give me concern is that Denver's D is very good and the Packers will have to score on every opportunity they are given.
I also do worry a little bit this could be a let down game after the big win at home against the Spermheads.
Since he entered the league in 2017, Broncos left tackle Garrett Bolles has been penalized for holding 16 times. Those are just the penalties that were accepted, though. Two of Bollesâ four holding penalties on Sunday were declined so he was only credited with two. He also held a fifth time but the penalty was incorrectly credited to guard Ron Leary. So, based on the numbers, itâs not surprising that Bolles has a reputation for holding. Speaking to media members Monday, Denver coach Vic Fangio indicated that Bolles may need to respond better to coaching.
âHeâs just got to be a little bit more technique sound,â Fangio said. âI think he suffers from â you know, he thinks heâs in good position sometimes and dumps the guy at the end and thinks itâs a legal block. âWe have to do a better job of explaining that to him. Heâs got to do a better job of listening to the explaining.
But I think he can.â
Guy sounds like a mess. Time to meet the Smith Bros !!!
On one site I read that the Broncos bemoaned the lack of sacks. They attributed it to the fact that the opponents had quick passes. As of late, Rodgers is not known for quick passes. Perhaps when he looks at the tape Matt will encourage Aaron to do that more often. Too often the key to beating our offense has been to plaster our receivers and get Rodgers to hold on to the ball before a sack. The key for the Packers this week is to do what they did most of the first half on Sunday. Mix it up and play action to slow the rush and release the receivers.
A couple things I'd like to see this week.
From the comments page: I am not a G. Bolles fan but, in his defense; he is still a young player and still have room to improve. He is not the main reason the Broncos are 0-2. Their defense needs to do a better job against the run.
Packer defense is legit and don't see them struggling against Joe Flacco. Offense continues its progress and it's a reasonably comfortable win.
Packers 27
Broncos 13
#Packers coach Matt LaFleur said they're having a walk-through today because they are a little bit banged up and have a Thursday night game coming up after Sunday.
â Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) September 18, 2019
Boris posted:Defense with 3 INT's off Shane Falco.
Offense doing just enough to win.
I see this game as a Cakewalk. Another snoozer.
3 weeks in a row against arguably a top 10 defense.
I really hope you are right, but I don't see a "cakewalk" at all. I am not swayed at all by the fact that the Broncos have not registered a sack yet. Between Vic Fangio's success against the Packers at both SF and CHI, and the presence of Von Miller and Chubb - combined with Rodgers' propensity for holding the ball way too long - this will be a very tough, physical game. Packers better not be too high after that win over the Queens, because they will need to be sharp against a dangerous team searching to avoid an 0-3 start.
michiganjoe posted:#Packers coach Matt LaFleur said they're having a walk-through today because they are a little bit banged up and have a Thursday night game coming up after Sunday.
â Tom Silverstein (@TomSilverstein) September 18, 2019
Per Kevin Seifert, Eagles are doing the same thing today.
I want to be fully in on this defense being the real thing but I want to see a couple of more games first. If they can hold Denver and Philly under 20 points each then I'm gonna crown their asses.
RochNyFan posted:Between Vic Fangio's success against the Packers at both SF and CHI...
I know it's early, but I see a clear difference in the MLF offense versus what MM had been rolling out the past 5-6 seasons.
No boot, no limp for Darnell Savage Jr. in the locker room today.
â Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 18, 2019
Hungry5 posted:RochNyFan posted:Between Vic Fangio's success against the Packers at both SF and CHI...
I know it's early, but I see a clear difference in the MLF offense versus what MM had been rolling out the past 5-6 seasons.
In SF Fangio had Willis & Bowman. Even so, minus the kaerperdinck game, SF never dominated the Pack. Y'all Forget the 23-20 playoff loss where Micah Hyde dropped a game sealing INT?
In Chicago, what "success" vs. the Pack? Rodgers always torches those fools.
Fangio is a good DC, that's obvious. I'm not falling for the "He's God vs Green Bay."
If the Packer O-Line blocks the Packers win. It's pretty simple.
Even if the Packers lose, it's an AFC loss & means little to nothing in the grand scheme.
Yup.
2-0 division.
2-0 conference.
Also, this is the 3rd preseason game, so I expect the offense will show a little more regular season form.
Packdog posted:Since he entered the league in 2017, Broncos left tackle Garrett Bolles has been penalized for holding 16 times. Those are just the penalties that were accepted, though. Two of Bollesâ four holding penalties on Sunday were declined so he was only credited with two. He also held a fifth time but the penalty was incorrectly credited to guard Ron Leary. So, based on the numbers, itâs not surprising that Bolles has a reputation for holding. Speaking to media members Monday, Denver coach Vic Fangio indicated that Bolles may need to respond better to coaching.
âHeâs just got to be a little bit more technique sound,â Fangio said. âI think he suffers from â you know, he thinks heâs in good position sometimes and dumps the guy at the end and thinks itâs a legal block. âWe have to do a better job of explaining that to him. Heâs got to do a better job of listening to the explaining.
But I think he can.â
Guy sounds like a mess. Time to meet the Smith Bros !!!
Good thing Bolles was already potty trained when they got him.
Boris posted:Hungry5 posted:RochNyFan posted:Between Vic Fangio's success against the Packers at both SF and CHI...
I know it's early, but I see a clear difference in the MLF offense versus what MM had been rolling out the past 5-6 seasons.
In SF Fangio had Willis & Bowman. Even so, minus the kaerperdinck game, SF never dominated the Pack. Y'all Forget the 23-20 playoff loss where Micah Hyde dropped a game sealing INT?
In Chicago, what "success" vs. the Pack? Rodgers always torches those fools.
Fangio is a good DC, that's obvious. I'm not falling for the "He's God vs Green Bay."
If the Packer O-Line blocks the Packers win. It's pretty simple.
Even if the Packers lose, it's an AFC loss & means little to nothing in the grand scheme.
This offense is not the same offense Fangio saw when he was with 40Whiners or daBears. What happened in the past means absolutly zilch.
Hungry5 posted:Yup.
2-0 division.
2-0 conference.
That doesn't change after this week
antooo posted:
Guy sounds like a mess. Time to meet the Smith Bros !!!
Good thing Bolles was already potty trained when they got him.
I don't know about that. Seems like he's sh!t himself during the game several times already in his young career.
#Packers announce following roster moves:
â Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) September 19, 2019
- Trade WR Trevor Davis to Oakland
- Promote TE Evan Baylis to 53
- Sign WR Keon Hatcher to P-squad
Baylis promotion related to Graham's groin injury, which appears to be a real problem. Like what Gutey's done but the Jimmy Graham signing hasn't worked out well for him.
Isn't Baylis a lot like Tonyan in regards to build? Glad Fling-a-Fack is onboard.
Matt LaFleur said Jimmy Graham's groin bothered him Sunday but "he fought through it." Sounds like Graham could miss Sunday vs. Denver, but LaFleur said "I think in the long run he'll be all right."
Rob Demovsky, ESPN Staff WriterThis should be a good opportunity for Tonyan. If he has any possibility to morphing into a number 1 TE, show that shit now. He had a great pass and catch last year against the Hags IIRC that went for a TD and a 28 yard completion in week 1. It's also time for AR to figure out a way to get this kid the ball.
He's the fastest amongst this group (minus Sternberger who's on IR). He can't be any worse of a blocker than Graham. This should be his Wally Pip moment
TE Evan Baylis will be promoted from the practice squad, which is why he has switched his number to 88 from his previous No. 49. It's a sign the Packers are concerned about Jimmy Graham's groin injury. pic.twitter.com/4nlTLwZLrJ
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 19, 2019
Plus, that big arrow will make it easier for Rodgers to spot him on the field.
packerboi posted:
He's the fastest amongst this group (minus Sternberger who's on IR). He can't be any worse of a blocker than Graham. This should be his Wally Pip moment
Nope, Tonyan ran a 4.58 to Sternberger's 4.75
Proverbs 27:17, âAs Iron sharpens iron, so one man sharpens anotherâ
New offense facing 3 of the better defenses from 2018 is going to prove helpful down the road. Tough sledding for the O so far but itâs going to get better.
I think Jimmy Graham in street clothes isnât hurting anything. I donât think Tonyan is a better blocker but heâll make a better effort and is more dynamic as a pass threat.
I think the NFL is catching on that Aaron Jones is massive matchup nightmare thatâs only going to get worse in MLFs offense.
I hope Kumerow gets more snaps now that Davis has been sent away. Finally.
While I LOVED seeing the few times Rodgers lined up under center in the Chicago opener and watching Chicago try figure it out was fun. I didnât expect to see it expand the way it did against Minny. Minny didnât expect it either.
New film is not easy to game plan for if the QB is Rodgers.
Jeff Legwold ESPN Senior Writer
And this from Broncos coach Vi Fangio Wednesday on the prospect of facing Packers quarterback Aaron Rodgers this week: "He is one of the best of all time, there's not a lot that's given him a lot of trouble. One of the definitions of a great quarterback is there is really no one way to play him. So, we just have to mix it up on him. He's a great passer, quick release, great arm strength, mobile, scrambler, creator, and he's a great player.'' Fangio also said Rodgers has "athletic arrogance, which is a compliment. He just thinks he can do it.'' After two games the Broncos defense has no sacks and has not forced a turnover. Moments later Fangio was asked if he had concerns over the team's pass rush and he said: "Not at this point, one thing I will say is I was disappointed in our rush on the last drive (in the loss to the Bears). But prior to that in these first two games, they've been unusual games as it relates to pass rush.''
The Smith Bros. should be licking their chops:
Jeff Legwold ESPN Senior Writer
On left tackle Garett Bolles' struggles with penalties -- five holding penalties in the first two games, including four this past Sunday in the loss to the Bears -- Broncos coach Vic Fangio said: "We talked to him early in the week, (offensive line coach) Mike (Munchak) did the bulk of it, I talked to him a little bit, I'm sure he's heard everybody else's comments indirectly, he knows what he's up against and what he has to do.'' On how much patience the Broncos would have with Bolles moving forward, Fangio said: "A good amount.''
The Donkeys don't have anyone else. Time to make 'em pay!
Buy a point & give Denver +6.5....Pack by 7
Yesterday's injury report was not particularly good.
Hope these guys can work through it by Sunday.
If we come out as fast as we did vs. Vikes, I don't see Denver being able to come back
Today's has cleaned up.
Three #Packers players not practicing Thursday: TE Jimmy Graham (groin), DL Montravius Adams (shoulder) and ILB Oren Burks (pectoral).
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) September 19, 2019
WR Jake Kumerow, who was listed as a hypothetical DNP yesterday with a shoulder, did practice.
Boris posted:The Donkeys don't have anyone else. Time to make 'em pay!
Buy a point & give Denver +6.5....Pack by 7
Good team win. GREAT teams cover.
edit: just went to 7 1/2
packerboi posted:This should be a good opportunity for Tonyan. If he has any possibility to morphing into a number 1 TE, show that shit now. He had a great pass and catch last year against the Hags IIRC that went for a TD and a 28 yard completion in week 1. It's also time for AR to figure out a way to get this kid the ball.
He's the fastest amongst this group (minus Sternberger who's on IR). He can't be any worse of a blocker than Graham. This should be his Wally Pip moment
I read someplace that Baylis was halfway decent as a blocking TE. And he has been on the PS so he probably knows the offense. I liked him in his limited time in preseason. I expect that he can help on Sunday.
Like everybody, I knew that Graham couldn't block but gave him a pass because his pass-catching abilities could be exceptional. No matter the reason, the pass-catching isn't anywhere near where it needs to be so fuck that guy.
I want to see Tonyan lining up at #1. Get it done young man.
I'd like to see the TE used in the passing offense. We've got enough on the roster, so let's see them in the passing game. Maybe it was that Graham was hurt/done, but hopefully Tonyan gets a shot. It's the only way we'll find out if he can play or not.
fightphoe93 posted:PackerHawk posted:I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards.
I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly. Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced.
Philly is all banged up. Wentz was running for his life last week. Our new defense should be harassing Wentz all night long. For Denver, our O line has to be up to stopping Chubb and Miller before they get to Rodgers. Rodgers needs to get rid of the ball more quickly than he has. Cover their WRs, in Sutton and Sanders, and we should be good. 4-0 sounds really good! GO PACK, GO!!!
PackLandVA posted:antooo posted:
Guy sounds like a mess. Time to meet the Smith Bros !!!
Good thing Bolles was already potty trained when they got him.
I don't know about that. Seems like he's sh!t himself during the game several times already in his young career.
With all those holding calls, I expect the vikings to make an offer for him.
Can you imagine him and Bradbury on the same OL? Staaaaacked!
mrtundra posted:4-0 sounds really good! GO PACK, GO!!!
Should probably get to 3-0 first....one step at a time.
Lane Taylor isn't practicing today. Looks like Elgton Jenkins could make his first career NFL start on Sunday.
â Zach Kruse (@zachkruse2) September 20, 2019
Jimmy Graham (groin) has a chance to play Sunday against the Broncos. He went through the early drills in practice after not practicing on Thursday. Coach Matt LaFleur said Graham wouldn't be a long-term issue but there was some... https://t.co/E2icV657fX pic.twitter.com/CjpJUxTpKq
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 20, 2019
From SI:
"The Packers are one of five teams to have happily kept every kickoff in the end zone for a touchback. The result? With the Bears booting one kickoff out of the bounds in the opener, Green Bayâs average field position following a kickoff is the 27.5-yard line. Thatâs the third-best starting point in the league âĶ for doing nothing. "
Keep it up !!! With a potential fumble and the way the NFLFU likes to throw flags, why bother ??!!
I thought that was supposed to be the majority outcome of the rules changes. Every time I see someone return a ball out of the end zone and end up short of the 20 I just have to shake my head.
Some of these guys can't help themselves. Short kick, less hang-time, etc....."time for me to be a hero" !!!
It's somewhat remarkable that just a few years ago, getting to the 20 (+) yard line from a KOR from the end zone was pretty common.
Now, with the rule changes, it's not as common. Returns to the 25 are even rarer.
Packdog posted:From SI:
"The Packers are one of five teams to have happily kept every kickoff in the end zone for a touchback. The result? With the Bears booting one kickoff out of the bounds in the opener, Green Bayâs average field position following a kickoff is the 27.5-yard line. Thatâs the third-best starting point in the league âĶ for doing nothing. "
Keep it up !!! With a potential fumble and the way the NFLFU likes to throw flags, why bother ??!!
Excellent point! Add in it removes the risk of injury, and it makes even more sense.
Since returning to action in Week 16 of the 2018 season, Bryan Bulaga's 0.5% pressure rate is the lowest among all OT's (min 100 snaps).
â PFF GB Packers (@PFF_Packers) September 19, 2019
Bulaga has allowed (1) total pressure on 182 pass-blocking snaps over the past four games.#GoPackGo pic.twitter.com/fm0mMygQ0B
Some ready to throw dirt on this guy . Guess what - he's still really good !!
And he's done it against 2 top shelf defenses !!
Packdog posted:Some of these guys can't help themselves. Short kick, less hang-time, etc....."time for me to be a hero" !!!
Ty Montgomery.
From FaFleur presser: looks like Graham will play & Jenkins will start at LG
Bears fans were bitching about Bulaga choke-holding Mack on most passing plays.
Well, this is one way to bond as a Team Captain..
ZaâDarius Smith said yesterday he was treating the entire defense dinner last night.
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 20, 2019
Guys asked him: âZ, whatâs the limit?â
There was none, and Smith said the bill was about $5,000 at Republic Chophouse in Green Bay -- not as bad as he thought it... https://t.co/ZVxRPjbAld
Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
That guy needs to be sent off to Canton sooner rather than later. Heâs past his expiration date.
packerboi posted:Well, this is one way to bond as a Team Captain..
ZaâDarius Smith said yesterday he was treating the entire defense dinner last night.
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 20, 2019
Guys asked him: âZ, whatâs the limit?â
There was none, and Smith said the bill was about $5,000 at Republic Chophouse in Green Bay -- not as bad as he thought it... https://t.co/ZVxRPjbAld
Easily the best free agent signing since Woodson. Very happy to have him leading this defense.
ChilliJon posted:Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
That guy needs to be sent off to Canton sooner rather than later. Heâs past his expiration date.
Exactly.
Republic Chophouse was one of Woodsonâs favorite places in GB. The Smiths were fine additions.
In fact. IIRC It was Damarious Randall that took to Twitter during his rookie camp complaining there wasnât anywhere good to eat in GB and Charles took him to school.
Graham is questionable on the injury report just released. He's not offering much when healthy and I wouldn't be that surprised if he's inactive on Sunday.
ChilliJon posted:Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
One of the few things known about Jimmy, he don't miss games. IIRC, he had one season where he played like 11 games, almost every other seasons he's played it's been the full 16.
He broke his thumb last season. Didn't matter, he played.
He didn't play well, but he played.
#Packers injury report. Lane Taylor and Oren Burks are out. Montravius Adams doubtful. pic.twitter.com/4yKOqWkMB3
â Ryan Wood (@ByRyanWood) September 20, 2019
packerboi posted:ChilliJon posted:Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
One of the few things known about Jimmy, he don't miss games. IIRC, he had one season where he played like 11 games, almost every other seasons he's played it's been the full 16.
He broke his thumb last season. Didn't matter, he played.
He didn't play well, but he played.
Think his thumb injury led to a tipped pick in the EZ that should have been a TD.
I get the guy is an all timer at TE. But how everyone can be cool with Clay in LA because his best days are in the rear view mirror but Graham just needs a chance is homerism on a grand scale. Graham looks about as done as done can look. And the last thing I want to see is done with a bad groin.
Tonyan is a better option in this offense. He canât block either (and while weâre here Lewis hasnât exactly been a blocking force either) but Tonyan is a slightly poorer manâs version of George Kittle.
packerboi posted:Well, this is one way to bond as a Team Captain..
ZaâDarius Smith said yesterday he was treating the entire defense dinner last night.
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 20, 2019
Guys asked him: âZ, whatâs the limit?â
There was none, and Smith said the bill was about $5,000 at Republic Chophouse in Green Bay -- not as bad as he thought it... https://t.co/ZVxRPjbAld
As opposed to some players who have to be chased to pay their bills...
And I'll assume there's a lot of coughing in Arod's direction.... 
YATittle posted:
I ain't spending no 200 bucks on a bottle of wine 
These first 2 games have taken a bit of a toll.
Shepherd and Burks still need another couple of weeks.
Good to see Hollman has worked his way back. Neck injuries are nasty.
Hate to see big Mo and Martinez are hurting. It's good that Brown can rotate in as needed. Might be a good week to see more of KeKe.
Fackrell and Graham...meh. Don't know if either of them would be sorely missed.
But if Kumerow can't go, that may limit some options at TE.
I wonder if Summers might get any snaps if Fackrell needs a spell or can't play? He normally sees lots of snaps.
Dexter may see some plays at RB if Jamaal has any troubles.
Hope Jenkins is excited for his first start!
packerboi posted:Well, this is one way to bond as a Team Captain..
ZaâDarius Smith said yesterday he was treating the entire defense dinner last night.
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 20, 2019
Guys asked him: âZ, whatâs the limit?â
There was none, and Smith said the bill was about $5,000 at Republic Chophouse in Green Bay -- not as bad as he thought it... https://t.co/ZVxRPjbAld
What, Applebee's wasn't taking reservations?
Fedya posted:YATittle posted:I ain't spending no 200 bucks on a bottle of wine
Then you get Beringer White Zin or Yellowtail Merlot.
Enjoy that!
ChilliJon posted:Tonyan is a slightly poorer manâs version of George Kittle.
Um yeah....like destitute man's version.
I happen to have a Beringer White Zin and a Yellow Tail Chardonnay in the pantry as we speak.....that's "Company Wine."
We classy.
I know restaurants have a ridiculous markup on alcohol, but I'm sure I could find a perfectly adequate Garnacha or Viognier at the liquor store in the $20-30 range.
And no white zin or chardonnay, although I'm reminded of my niece's college graduation party, a backyard barbecue with lots of red meat perfect for red wine. My sister had three bottles of wine out: white zin, chardonnay, and moscato. Talk about stereotypes.
Pakrz posted:Like everybody, I knew that Graham couldn't block but gave him a pass because his pass-catching abilities could be exceptional. No matter the reason, the pass-catching isn't anywhere near where it needs to be so fuck that guy.
I want to see Tonyan lining up at #1. Get it done young man.
The Packers just promoted Evan Bayliss from the PS. IS he going to be used as a blocker or a receiver more? Gute and MLF have expressed a liking for Bayliss's talents on the field based from his play in camp. Will we see more Bayliss than Tonyan? More Bayliss than Graham or Lewis?
Skip Baylis, go to Tonyan.
Blair Kiel posted:I happen to have a Beringer White Zin and a Yellow Tail Chardonnay in the pantry as we speak.....that's "Company Wine."
We classy.
For Utah.
DH13 posted:Skip Baylis, go to Tonyan.
I see what you did there.
#Packers place G Lane Taylor on injured reserve & sign G/T Adam Pankey from the Titansâ practice squad. https://t.co/5oyXOnVokM
â Green Bay Packers (@packers) September 21, 2019
packerboi posted:Pakrz posted:That's been AR's problem for awhile now (Getting the ball out quickly).
I'm going to the game this weekend and am really looking forward to seeing the whole field. TV cameras typically focus on the QB and we are left with seeing AR just dance around and hang onto the ball. I am curious to see if guys are open and he isn't seeing them or if everybody is covered.
Yep. No arguments here. For those wondering why AR is still occasionally showing that same habit, I think we have to remind ourselves he didn't get into the sandlot style football/waiting forever for a guy to get open overnight.
That was years of being in an inept, stale offense where he developed those bad habits. Coupled with his complete disdain to throwing INT's. Then add to that, having a QB coach in Frank Cignetti who reportedly AR hated and had no respect for and a HC in MM who tuned out.
I fully believe MLF can get AR out of those habits including some bad footwork he's still showing here and there. But it's going to take some time.
Hope we don't get copy and paste 13 more times this year.
WTF happened to Taylor? 2 starters on IR after 2 games.
Bicep injury apparently. I think Jenkins might be an upgrade there though.
Lane would've been good depth.
Hope we don't get copy and paste 13 more times this year.
You're going to get at least 13 more weeks of YA Tittle liking every one of your posts, however.
mrtundra posted:Pakrz posted:Like everybody, I knew that Graham couldn't block but gave him a pass because his pass-catching abilities could be exceptional. No matter the reason, the pass-catching isn't anywhere near where it needs to be so fuck that guy.
I want to see Tonyan lining up at #1. Get it done young man.
The Packers just promoted Evan Bayliss from the PS. IS he going to be used as a blocker or a receiver more? Gute and MLF have expressed a liking for Bayliss's talents on the field based from his play in camp. Will we see more Bayliss than Tonyan? More Bayliss than Graham or Lewis?
I like Baylis and we âPay Lessâ for him.
Pakrz posted:Bicep injury apparently. I think Jenkins might be an upgrade there though.
Agree but the loss of depth sucks.
Troy posted:packerboi posted:Well, this is one way to bond as a Team Captain..
ZaâDarius Smith said yesterday he was treating the entire defense dinner last night.
â Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) September 20, 2019
Guys asked him: âZ, whatâs the limit?â
There was none, and Smith said the bill was about $5,000 at Republic Chophouse in Green Bay -- not as bad as he thought it... https://t.co/ZVxRPjbAldEasily the best free agent signing since Woodson. Very happy to have him leading this defense.
Peppers was a pretty good signing. I might give it more than 2 games before declaring this signing to easily be the best since Woodson.
Peppers was excellent, but Z Smith is bringing it on the field, off the field and inside the locker room. He's a fantastic addition to the team.
Gute is kicking ass.
Still....it's 2 games but it is a fantastic start.
TT was always concerned about the locker room & how guys would fit in the team. It seems Gute has also taken on that trait. Good to see.
This isn't a defense.....it's a Z'fense
ChilliJon posted:packerboi posted:ChilliJon posted:Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
One of the few things known about Jimmy, he don't miss games. IIRC, he had one season where he played like 11 games, almost every other seasons he's played it's been the full 16.
He broke his thumb last season. Didn't matter, he played.
He didn't play well, but he played.
Think his thumb injury led to a tipped pick in the EZ that should have been a TD.
I get the guy is an all timer at TE. But how everyone can be cool with Clay in LA because his best days are in the rear view mirror but Graham just needs a chance is homerism on a grand scale. Graham looks about as done as done can look. And the last thing I want to see is done with a bad groin.
Tonyan is a better option in this offense. He canât block either (and while weâre here Lewis hasnât exactly been a blocking force either) but Tonyan is a slightly poorer manâs version of George Kittle.
Tonyan is a lot closer to being on the practice squad than he is a legitimate starter. Same as Kumerow
They just need opportunities.
13X posted:ChilliJon posted:packerboi posted:ChilliJon posted:Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
One of the few things known about Jimmy, he don't miss games. IIRC, he had one season where he played like 11 games, almost every other seasons he's played it's been the full 16.
He broke his thumb last season. Didn't matter, he played.
He didn't play well, but he played.
Think his thumb injury led to a tipped pick in the EZ that should have been a TD.
I get the guy is an all timer at TE. But how everyone can be cool with Clay in LA because his best days are in the rear view mirror but Graham just needs a chance is homerism on a grand scale. Graham looks about as done as done can look. And the last thing I want to see is done with a bad groin.
Tonyan is a better option in this offense. He canât block either (and while weâre here Lewis hasnât exactly been a blocking force either) but Tonyan is a slightly poorer manâs version of George Kittle.
Tonyan is a lot closer to being on the practice squad than he is a legitimate starter. Same as Kumerow
Disagree. Too harsh.
Rainy day. Impact on game?
Desmond Howard isn't around to miss the second half kickoff because he changing out of his muddy uniform. 
Arrived in GB today for the game. Saw quite a few people in Broncos gear walking around Lambeau. Anyone else from TimesFour going to be at game? I'll be in section 116.
YATittle posted:13X posted:ChilliJon posted:packerboi posted:ChilliJon posted:Great. So a dinged up Graham is gonna make a go of it. Thatâs just fucking spectacular.
One of the few things known about Jimmy, he don't miss games. IIRC, he had one season where he played like 11 games, almost every other seasons he's played it's been the full 16.
He broke his thumb last season. Didn't matter, he played.
He didn't play well, but he played.
Think his thumb injury led to a tipped pick in the EZ that should have been a TD.
I get the guy is an all timer at TE. But how everyone can be cool with Clay in LA because his best days are in the rear view mirror but Graham just needs a chance is homerism on a grand scale. Graham looks about as done as done can look. And the last thing I want to see is done with a bad groin.
Tonyan is a better option in this offense. He canât block either (and while weâre here Lewis hasnât exactly been a blocking force either) but Tonyan is a slightly poorer manâs version of George Kittle.
Tonyan is a lot closer to being on the practice squad than he is a legitimate starter. Same as Kumerow
Disagree. Too harsh.
Maybe a bit harsh, but it's a more realistic take than thinking either can be a starting-caliber player
YATittle posted:Rainy day. Impact on game?
Should keep the Milwaukee crowd from doing the wave?
Ball security day.
Green and Gold storm. We should be good.
Green and Yellow. Pet peeve of mine. Lil' Wayne agrees with me.
YATittle posted:Rainy day. Impact on game?
Protect the ball, rain or shine!
mrtundra posted:YATittle posted:Rainy day. Impact on game?
Protect the ball, rain or shine!
And on defense, take away the ball!
Pack is 5-0-1 all time against Broncos at home. They have scored more than 30 points in all five wins.
Henry posted:Green and Yellow. Pet peeve of mine. Lil' Wayne agrees with me.
Lil bvan agrees too.
It's Deep Forest Green and School Bus Yellow!
