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Found on the internet: To open the season 2-0 — let alone both wins coming against division opponents — puts a team on the right track for the postseason. Since 2007, teams that start 2-0 have a 55.1% chance of reaching the postseason, though that trend has cooled the last few years.

In 2018, five of the seven teams to begin 2-0 did not make the playoffs and in 2016 and 2017 four of the eight teams that began those seasons with two victories were sitting home in January.

As for the Packers, a 2-0 start is relatively rare in the Aaron Rodgers era. Since taking over as the starter in 2008, this season is just the fifth time the Packers have won their first two games (with final regular-season record):

2008: 6-10

2010: 10-6, Super Bowl champions

2011: 15-1

2015: 10-6

Here's to hoping for sweet revenge for Super Bowl XXXII.  Okay, bad joke, there can never really be any revenge for that debacle. 

3-0 would look really nice after a 6-10 season.  The Packers haven't played well enough to think this is a "gimme" but this one in theory should be one of the lesser games on the schedule in terms of toughness.  Do not look ahead to the Eagles, focus on this one and make darn sure you've got a good plan to control Miller and Chubb.  Keep those guys from wreaking havoc on Rodgers and Co. and I like the Pack's chances. 

PackerHawk posted:

I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards. 

I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly.  Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced. 

Broncos offense shouldnt be a tough assignment for the revamped D. 

Could be another ugly contest but just win baby. 

Looking for a second receiver to emerge soon. I'd throw a PA go route to Kumarow on the first play. 

fightphoe93 posted:
PackerHawk posted:

I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards. 

I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly.  Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced. 

I agree, but more because of the likelihood that Bakh will be much less likely to play on a short week. It took him all 7 days to get his back into shape to play against the Vikings and it's clear he's not himself given how well bull rushes are working on him so far this year. 

Flacco is a great test for Pettine's defense (now that he has some talent to implement his schemes) because he's the type of QB that always ate up Capers' defenses more than they should have. Steady, veteran QBs that didn't make stupid mistakes were always a problem for Dom's defenses (the superstar QBs ate them up too, but you expect that). 

The Thursday night games are often terrible because it's often just a war of attrition. Bakh may still be the 2nd most important player on offense (right up there with D. Adams) because he's both an All-Pro level player but also because the drop off to his backup is huge. Alex Light lining up at LT in a prime-time game would be a problem. Although at least it wouldn't be Jason Spriggs. 

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RE: Eagles. They have lost one of their core DL in Malik Jackson. That's a huge loss. His back up, Tim Jerginson, left in a walking boot on Sunday. That looks like he could also miss GB. 

And then there's Alshon. Who's hurt again:

Oh. And I have said this a slew of times on here. I'll say it again. I'll say it next week. 

to Thursday night games. If the new CBA does ANYTHING, at least fix these TNF games. Complete bullshit. Completely unnecessary risk to player injuries. This coming from a league who claims to care so much about player safety.

NFLFU  

fightphoe93 posted:
PackerHawk posted:

I expect they should win this week and next Thursday vs. Philly. Anything can happen of course but a 4-0 start looks like it's in the cards. 

I definitely like the chances more vs. Denver than Philly.  Wentz will be the best QB they've faced so far plus I think the Eagles have the best O-Line the Pack has faced. 

Flacco this week will be the best QB they have faced. LOL.

I like Wentz but he looks really up and down this year - so far. 

packerboi posted:

Oh. And I have said this a slew of times on here. I'll say it again. I'll say it next week. 

to Thursday night games. If the new CBA does ANYTHING, at least fix these TNF games. Complete bullshit. Completely unnecessary risk to player injuries. This coming from a league who claims to care so much about player safety.

NFLFU  

Yes. Especially since there is a way that they could get almost as many Thursday games in by just setting it up so that two teams that had a bye the previous week could play the Thursday game. 

Having the game at home for the Thursday is a huge advantage as well, especially since the Packers don't have to travel back from a road game on Sunday. 

Do away with Thursday night. It sucks.

If they MUST keep it, then Thursday games only after both teams have a bye.

Then..... ZOMG....how about (2) Thursday games!

Whoops. Let another million $$$ idea slip out

GreenBayLA posted:

My main concern with Denver is new HC Vic Fangio knows Rodgers and co. Packers still have advantage with unscouted looks on offense and revamped D.

 

Fangina knew TBSS better than anyone, how'd that work out for him?

Boris posted:

Do away with Thursday night. It sucks.

If they MUST keep it, then Thursday games only after both teams have a bye.

Then..... ZOMG....how about (2) Thursday games!

Whoops. Let another million $$$ idea slip out

Why not Wednesday and Thursday night games? It's probably coming at some point. The only reason they stay away from Friday and Saturday is that they don't want to interfere with their free talent development programs (high school and college games). 

The Packers OL getting a lot of grief on local sports radio today for their play in the 1st 2 weeks. Week one was ugly, but consider the team they played. Of the 6 sacks Rodgers has taken in 2 games, you'd have to think a couple are probably on AR. 

And I think MLF has to make a decision on Jenkins vs Taylor. Those watching the tape say Elton is the better athlete and is making the most of the reps he's getting. If that's true and the rookie is the future at LG, then make a decision and make him the full-time starter.  This OL needs to gel and it's hard to do that when you still have moving pieces at G

Jenkins has held his own physically, but they may be wanting to bring him along slowly with the mental side. For all of Taylor's physical deficiencies, he's a savvy veteran OL who generally makes correct reads in pass pro. If we don't need Jenkins in there right away (which we don't, Taylor is fine), then I think bringing him along slowly is correct. I'm way more concerned about Billy Turner getting whipped by power moves than I am about Taylor. He's gotten worked over with that bull rush the first two weeks, can't have interior pressure when you're facing elite edge players. 

This is going to be another tough week for our OTs. The Vikings bull rushed the shit out of Bakhtiari and his fucked up back. He gave up a lot of hurries it seems. He's going to face another power rusher in Chubb this week, so I hope that back is healing up! Rodgers will need to get the ball out quick and do a better job stepping up int the pocket. Can't sit idle on a 7 or 10 step drop and wait, gotta step up or let the ball go. 

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That's been AR's problem for awhile now (Getting the ball out quickly).  

I'm going to the game this weekend and am really looking forward to seeing the whole field.  TV cameras typically focus on the QB and we are left with seeing AR just dance around and hang onto the ball.  I am curious to see if guys are open and he isn't seeing them or if everybody is covered. 

Pakrz posted:

That's been AR's problem for awhile now (Getting the ball out quickly).  

I'm going to the game this weekend and am really looking forward to seeing the whole field.  TV cameras typically focus on the QB and we are left with seeing AR just dance around and hang onto the ball.  I am curious to see if guys are open and he isn't seeing them or if everybody is covered. 

Yep. No arguments here. For those wondering why AR is still occasionally showing that same habit, I think we have to remind ourselves he didn't get into the sandlot style football/waiting forever for a guy to get open overnight. 

That was years of being in an inept, stale offense where he developed those bad habits. Coupled with his complete disdain to throwing INT's. Then add to that, having a QB coach in Frank Cignetti who reportedly AR hated and had no respect for and a HC in MM who tuned out. 

I fully believe MLF can get AR out of those habits including some bad footwork he's still showing here and there. But it's going to take some time. 

Boris posted:

Do away with Thursday night. It sucks.

If they MUST keep it, then Thursday games only after both teams have a bye.

Then..... ZOMG....how about (2) Thursday games!

Whoops. Let another million $$$ idea slip out

2 MNF games each week then? 

The Packers got some help in the return game today, and depth in the secondary, signing Chefs CB Tremon Smith from waivers. His 26.8 AVG on kickoffs last year was fourth-best in the NFL. 

Mike Pettine is a great defensive coordinator, but this is taking defensive schemes and deception to a whole new level. If we sign just one more Smith on defense, we'll have officially entered the Matrix. 

 

 

I think a consistent pattern of successful play calling from MLF will be the only thing that gets AR calmed down. He played within the scheme through 3 series and got it done, but things started to stall and he seemed to revert to trying to do too much or overthink what needs to be done. Sometimes I think AR puts too much pressure on himself to win the game on his own at the expense of the game plan. Gameplans aren’t perfect and there’s plenty of room for improvisation, but there’s no clear strategy to AR’s style besides push the ball down the field with no concern for down, distance, game situation, etc. MFL had a good plan for MIN, more of that and I think AR will fully buy in and do it his way.

The Broncos offense was able to put up some yards on the Bears.  And Flacco passed for more yards than AR did against them.  And the Broncos had a pretty good drive at the end of the game.  

I don't think Flacco's gonna see another SB, or ProBowl for that matter.  But there's some talent on Denver.  And if there D is forceful, it could make for a long day for the Packers.  I don't see it as a gimme win at all.

 Defense with 3 INT's off Shane Falco.

Offense doing just enough to win.

I see this game as a Cakewalk. Another snoozer.

3 weeks in a row against arguably a top 10 defense. 

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fightphoe93 posted:

Here's to hoping for sweet revenge for Super Bowl XXXII.  Okay, bad joke, there can never really be any revenge for that debacle. 

3-0 would look really nice after a 6-10 season.  The Packers haven't played well enough to think this is a "gimme" but this one in theory should be one of the lesser games on the schedule in terms of toughness.  Do not look ahead to the Eagles, focus on this one and make darn sure you've got a good plan to control Miller and Chubb.  Keep those guys from wreaking havoc on Rodgers and Co. and I like the Pack's chances. 

To protect Rodgers from Miller and Chubb, Rodgers must get rid of the ball quicker than he usually does. Quick rhythm plays should help with that. Fangio and Co. got skewered by the refs against Chicago. They will be looking for some sort of redemption but, it will have to wait until next week. If Rodgers and the Offense plays to their potential and the Defense plays to their normal game, the Pack should win this one. GO PACK, GO!!!

IMHO if the defense keeps it up they will make is really hard on Denver to score.  But, what does give me concern is that Denver's D is very good and the Packers will have to score on every opportunity they are given.

I also do worry a little bit this could be a let down game after the big win at home against the Spermheads.

Since he entered the league in 2017, Broncos left tackle Garrett Bolles has been penalized for holding 16 times. Those are just the penalties that were accepted, though.  Two of Bolles’ four holding penalties on Sunday were declined so he was only credited with two. He also held a fifth time but the penalty was incorrectly credited to guard Ron Leary. So, based on the numbers, it’s not surprising that Bolles has a reputation for holding. Speaking to media members Monday, Denver coach Vic Fangio indicated that Bolles may need to respond better to coaching.

“He’s just got to be a little bit more technique sound,” Fangio said. “I think he suffers from — you know, he thinks he’s in good position sometimes and dumps the guy at the end and thinks it’s a legal block. “We have to do a better job of explaining that to him. He’s got to do a better job of listening to the explaining.
But I think he can.”

Guy sounds like a mess. Time to meet the Smith Bros !!!

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On one site I read that the Broncos bemoaned the lack of sacks. They attributed it to the fact that the opponents had quick passes. As of late, Rodgers is not known for quick passes. Perhaps when he looks at the tape Matt will encourage Aaron to do that more often. Too often the key to beating our offense has been to plaster our receivers and get Rodgers to hold on to the ball before a sack. The key for the Packers this week is to do what they did most of the first half on Sunday. Mix it up and play action to slow the rush and release the receivers.

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