Packers open as 5.5-point favorites against the Raiders at Lambeau this Sunday, per @betonline_ag.
— Matt Schneidman (@mattschneidman) October 16, 2019
I can't stand Gruden and his fake multiple personality act. I may like him the least of all NFL coaches. Guy is a complete phony and I would love to blow them out.
Pakrz posted:Boris posted:That dude...Lazard, had one catch for his career. ONE! Rodgers went to him 2 straight times & the 2nd one was the TD. He ended the night with 4 catches. There just aren't too many people on the planet that can turn a complete nobody into something resembling an NFL WR. Especially in that situation.
Onward....Beat the Ray-Duhs!
I'm with you, to a certain extent. Lazard is an NFL football player and I wouldn't classify him as a complete nobody. The kid certainly has an impressive skill set but never got a chance to showcase it.
There was a time in GB when Donald Driver was in the exact same position as Lazard. He got his opportunity and responded.
Driver was an elite athlete (a likely Olympic qualifier in the high jump). Lazard is never going to be that.
Having said that, one quarter of real game reps made it clear he's a lot better than Allison, Shepard, or Trevor Davis. I think the best comparison for Lazard is James Jones. He's not going to outrun anyone, but he's a big physical receiver that will fight for the ball and make a lot of contested catches.
MichiganPacker2 posted:Pakrz posted:Boris posted:That dude...Lazard, had one catch for his career. ONE! Rodgers went to him 2 straight times & the 2nd one was the TD. He ended the night with 4 catches. There just aren't too many people on the planet that can turn a complete nobody into something resembling an NFL WR. Especially in that situation.
Onward....Beat the Ray-Duhs!
I'm with you, to a certain extent. Lazard is an NFL football player and I wouldn't classify him as a complete nobody. The kid certainly has an impressive skill set but never got a chance to showcase it.
There was a time in GB when Donald Driver was in the exact same position as Lazard. He got his opportunity and responded.
Driver was an elite athlete (a likely Olympic qualifier in the high jump). Lazard is never going to be that.
Having said that, one quarter of real game reps made it clear he's a lot better than Allison, Shepard, or Trevor Davis. I think the best comparison for Lazard is James Jones. He's not going to outrun anyone, but he's a big physical receiver that will fight for the ball and make a lot of contested catches.
I'd take a young version of James Jones right now.
Don't know if it's a confidence issue or something else, but the deterioration of Allison has been puzzling. Easy to really like Lazard given the wideout play to date.
Hungry5 posted:
The fact that his logic is that Rodgers is earning his paycheck because he succeeded without Geronimo Allison and MVS should tell you everything about how poor GB’s WR depth is. As if having those guys means Rodgers doesn’t have to still be dominant to move the ball. I mean FFS people complain and have complained that guys like Jake Kumerow and Jeff Janis should get more PT, those guys wouldn’t have sniffed the PS in 2011.
A nice distraction for Chucky and Co:
Oakland Raiders offensive tackle Trent Brown has been accused of multiple acts of domestic violence against his girlfriend as part of a lawsuit filed earlier this week.
In the lawsuit, filed in Alameda County (California) Superior Court, Diorra Marzette-Sanders accuses Brown of slapping, punching and choking her on multiple occasions beginning in 2018. She said she has been "bruised, bloodied and battered" from the attacks and lived in fear of Brown.
The lawsuit, a copy of which was obtained by ESPN, says a police report was filed after a June 2019 incident in which Brown allegedly bruised Marzette-Sanders' arm and slapped her.
POS. Well if he plays he's going to get a taste of his own medicine courtesy of Big Z...our guy is out here breaking arms!
One hell of a chop from Za'Darius Smith (on LG). Looks like that hurt. #DETvsGB pic.twitter.com/XJeKYKP4lF
— Josh Cohen (@JCohen_NFL) October 15, 2019
Breakout players often have an element of surprise or unscouted looks that gives them early success. Let's see how he handles defenses that study his film once there is some. Until then, keep riding the hot hand.
In the lawsuit, his girlfriend, Diorra Marzette-Sanders, claims Trent Brown would often hold finances over her head and would allegedly tell her to "follow instructions" with the threat of homelessness, TMZ reported. https://t.co/ex6du7FUno
— FOX5 Las Vegas (@FOX5Vegas) October 16, 2019
Let's focus on this instead of the Game Chucky
Matt LaFleur indicated the Packers have no plans to reduce Jimmy Graham's role despite his ineffectivenss and dropped TD pass against the Lions. LaFleur said he wants "to make sure he knows we believe in him … I think he's going to be ready to battle... https://t.co/grSiuANsVw
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) October 16, 2019
Matt LaFleur said the Packers are sticking with Darrius Shepherd on returns even after his fumble against the Lions. "He's a young player; I don't think you cut the cord with one mistake," LaFleur said. Meanwhile, they'll face... https://t.co/MQyOhH0o1t pic.twitter.com/6Y3behvZZ2
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) October 16, 2019
packerboi posted:Matt LaFleur indicated the Packers have no plans to reduce Jimmy Graham's role despite his ineffectivenss and dropped TD pass against the Lions. LaFleur said he wants "to make sure he knows we believe in him … I think he's going to be ready to battle... https://t.co/grSiuANsVw
— Rob Demovsky (@RobDemovsky) October 16, 2019
We do what we do
To be fair to MLF regarding Graham, what are his options? We got 3 healthy TE's and we play a ton of two TE packages. 98% of the fan base can't name the 3rd TE and do you actually think Rodgers would throw him the ball?
We got to ride this out until Bad Bobby Tonyan gets healthy and he will take a lot of snaps from Graham as the season goes on.
BrainDed posted:To be fair to MLF regarding Graham, what are his options? We got 3 healthy TE's and we play a ton of two TE packages. 98% of the fan base can't name the 3rd TE and do you actually think Rodgers would throw him the ball?
We got to ride this out until Bad Bobby Tonyan gets healthy and he will take a lot of snaps from Graham as the season goes on.
Jace may be riding to the rescue.
DH13 posted:MVS is 6'-4".
Sometimes an inch can make all the difference.....ahem!
When the schedule came out, this seemed like a gimme win for the Pack. Not the case anymore...Gruden has the Raiders playing some good football, they have re-stocked their talent, team speed, and their O-Line looks to be pretty darn good. Plus Gruden has 2 weeks to game-plan after beating the Bears.
Heard an interview on the radio yesterday stating the Raiders have one of the best early down offenses in the NFL....rarely get into 3rd and long. Mainly due to the early down success of Jacobs. Stopping the run early will be key for Pettine.
Lowry had a great game last week. Let's make it 2 in a row for him
I thought on draft day that Josh Jacobs was going to be a really good pro somewhere. He was a bit under the radar because of limited game action in college. But you could see his ability when he was on the field.
This game combines two things the Raiders haven't really been good at over the past few years: Playing on the road and playing against an NFC team. In their past 15 road games, the Raiders are 3-12 straight-up . The Raiders have also struggled against NFC teams, since the beginning of the 2015 season (6-12 straight-up). As for the Packers, they've won seven straight against AFC teams while going 6-1 ATS in those games. Another upside for the Packers is that this game is being played at Lambeau in October, and over the past 10 years, Aaron Rodgers is 16-2 straight-up at home in October.
I still can't believe they beat the Bears last week -- even WITH Chase Daniel
Boris posted:I still can't believe they beat the Bears last week -- even WITH Chase Daniel
You shouldn't believe it because it was two weeks ago.
Long time lurker, 1st time poster here. Who do I pay for a cup and how empty is the keg?
How many more Rube smurfs are gonna join here?
Boris posted:I still can't believe they beat the Bears last week -- even WITH Chase Daniel
Wasnt that in London? All bets are off in those games for me.
Welcome Frankie.
Where ya from?
He could catch Y.A. Tittle in 4 days if he just goes back through every thread in the archives and hits "like"
We believe in your Frankie!
Thanks! Living in the enemy State, Redwood Falls.
Ya don't say?
Blazing through the ranks.
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Frankie.
Should all Viking fans be drawn and quartered...or just most of them?
Gee wiz, there seems to be a lot of injuries on our team this week. I sure hope Clark is good to go.
DH13 posted:MVS is 6'-4".
Ya, but he's only got a 1" vertical.
13X posted:I can't stand Gruden and his fake multiple personality act. I may like him the least of all NFL coaches. Guy is a complete phony and I would love to blow them out.
I'm not saying you're wrong as I don't know Gruden personally but is there something in particular you mean about him being a phony? As a coach, I always got the impression he is a workaholic, no-nonsense, anal son-of-a-bitch to play for, particularly if you are a QB. He's hard on QBs.
I suppose where you could say he's phony is that when he's in the announcers booth, he certainly displays a more pleasant side. That said, I think most guys behave differently in the announcer booth than they do outside of it.