I do expect MM to find a way to get both TE's involved. Lewis could be a 1st down machine if he sees a lot of action helping out on the OL. CHI was bracketing Graham all night and you can't do that if you have two legit TE's in the game. Lewis isn't known for his receiving skills but he has plenty of it to have an impact there. Didn't PHI use 2TE's a bunch vs MIN in the NFCC?
oh and i can also see one of the d players cheap shotting to get 12 out and get suspended (bfd), i expect a lot of dirty play if 12 is in there, they smell blood in the water.
I have a feeling that McCarthy will have to make the choice to take the points or go for it, and that’ll decide the game.
I don't see a predictions thread so...
I think our all world WK1 CBs get toasted a bit and come back to earth. Lotta season in front if them. Gotta imagine seeing a heavy dose of 2TE on O. AR will be OK. MM and OL know their season depends on it.
I have a feeling Mike is going to answer a lot of questions on his future prospects as head coach of the Packers this weekend.
Adams, Cobb, Lewis, Graham, and Allison arent ****ing children incapable of executing complex combo routes. So stop giving them bull**** routes that are easily taken away.
This is fish or cut bait weekend for MM.
pkr_north posted:oh and i can also see one of the d players cheap shotting to get 12 out and get suspended (bfd), i expect a lot of dirty play if 12 is in there, they smell blood in the water.
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pkr_north posted:i just watched the queen game blech. the 49er wr were really timid - i expect our veterans will be different, also watch for 89 and 80. 49ers had virtually nothing from the te's - little from rb's too...so your sayin there's a chance.
I think you may have watched the wrong game. George Kittle (the TE) gashed the Vikings D repeatedly with their misdirection game and may have had an even bigger day with two big drops (one in the endzone). I was surprised just how athletic that guy is. I'd love to have that guy on the Vikings roster to pair with The Human Iceberg Rudolph.
*apologies for posting out of the Vikings Suck thread
Success of SF TE surprised me given that Football Outsiders stats had the Vikes as #2 in defending TEs last season.
Brown Paper Sack AGAIN posted:pkr_north posted:i just watched the queen game blech. the 49er wr were really timid - i expect our veterans will be different, also watch for 89 and 80. 49ers had virtually nothing from the te's - little from rb's too...so your sayin there's a chance.
I think you may have watched the wrong game. George Kittle (the TE) gashed the Vikings D repeatedly with their misdirection game and may have had an even bigger day with two big drops (one in the endzone). I was surprised just how athletic that guy is. I'd love to have that guy on the Vikings roster to pair with The Human Iceberg Rudolph.
*apologies for posting out of the Vikings Suck thread
The other thing that surprised me was some of the holes SF opened right down the gut. Of course, Shananhan decides to try and run up the gut about 13 times on the goalline against this team which is sheer genius.
I don't think it's any big revelation the mark of your defense is how you play from in the redzone and it's pretty apparent the Vikings aren't going to give up much more than a FG.
Need some Air Coryell here. It'd be nice to see MVS, speedy ass rookie WR, get up to speed (punishy). Two TE sets seem inevitable. If McVince doesn't utilize Marcedes Lewis more, especially against a physical defense . . .
I believe this is the key to the game.
"We've secretly replaced Mike Zimmer's defensive playbook with Dom Caper's. Let's see what people think!"
Henry posted:I feel bad for McVince having to put up with Uncle Teddy protecting The Wizard all these years.
Whodathunk you maximize what talent you have?
Who'dathunk having a little actual talent would make a difference?
Are these not the type of games where MM circles the wagons and gets the Pittsburgh Macho Mojo cranked up? I think it might be.
Plus you know damn well that 12 wants to stick it to those ****ers that cheap shotted away his 2017 season.
Herschel posted:Henry posted:I feel bad for McVince having to put up with Uncle Teddy protecting The Wizard all these years.
Whodathunk you maximize what talent you have?
Who'dathunk having a little actual talent would make a difference?
Yeah, Capers was completely void of defensive talent for what, 7 years?
TT gone. Wizard gone. Turd remains.
Henry posted:TT gone. Wizard gone. Turd remains.
Time to get out the polishing towel!
Brown Paper Sack AGAIN posted:pkr_north posted:i just watched the queen game blech. the 49er wr were really timid - i expect our veterans will be different, also watch for 89 and 80. 49ers had virtually nothing from the te's - little from rb's too...so your sayin there's a chance.
I think you may have watched the wrong game. George Kittle (the TE) gashed the Vikings D repeatedly with their misdirection game and may have had an even bigger day with two big drops (one in the endzone). I was surprised just how athletic that guy is. I'd love to have that guy on the Vikings roster to pair with The Human Iceberg Rudolph.
*apologies for posting out of the Vikings Suck thread
You really do love us, don't you?
Garrappolo played scared & Niner receivers did him no favors with the drops.
Rodgers officially listed as "questionable" - offense looked Buffalo Bill-ish without Rodgers.
Home game vs. Division opponent. = Must win. Pretty early in season for that but it's true.
MNPackman posted:Overconfidence is off the charts here in the Twin Cities. PA's show is something else. They see no possible way the Packers can win this game.
This year's choke will be really hard for them to swallow.
I hate 538: https://projects.fivethirtyeig...ions/?ex_cid=rrpromo. Queens over Green Bay 60%. 
But I don't care, ya gotta play the game.
Goldie posted:I hate 538: https://projects.fivethirtyeig...ions/?ex_cid=rrpromo. Queens over Green Bay 60%.
I believe they gave the same percentage chances to Hillary in 2016.
And their system has Buffalo two spots below us....
What's up with all this "we won't win" talk! Their D is overrated. 49er's could have beaten them if they had our TEs. Their O line can be beaten and Pettine is the coach who can scheme it! Look for our DBs to have at least one INT that will change the complexion of the game and for our D Line to pressure and sack Cousins all day long! Minnesota's seasonal choke begins at Noon tomorrow at Lambeau! Packers 24, queens 14.
YATittle posted:Preach it!@
Damn straight, YA!
pkr_north posted:oh and i can also see one of the d players cheap shotting to get 12 out and get suspended (bfd), i expect a lot of dirty play if 12 is in there, they smell blood in the water.
Where's the "blood in the water" feeling from our team? After what Barr did to AR last season, you'd think revenge would be on every player's mind. It's time to fish. We don't need to cut bait! There's vikings in the water! GO PACK, GO!
I believe AR will play. I also believe that GB’s defense is improved, especially in the secondary.
If MM is smart and deploys a lot of two TE sets with quick throws, GB will win this game. If MM does stupid schit and has AR standing/running around out there waiting for routes to develop, GB will get beat.
We’ll see how smart MM is tomorrow.
My guess... GB wins this game 27 - 20.
Brown Paper Sack AGAIN posted:pkr_north posted:i just watched the queen game blech. the 49er wr were really timid - i expect our veterans will be different, also watch for 89 and 80. 49ers had virtually nothing from the te's - little from rb's too...so your sayin there's a chance.
I think you may have watched the wrong game. George Kittle (the TE) gashed the Vikings D repeatedly with their misdirection game and may have had an even bigger day with two big drops (one in the endzone). I was surprised just how athletic that guy is. I'd love to have that guy on the Vikings roster to pair with The Human Iceberg Rudolph.
*apologies for posting out of the Vikings Suck thread
- 1-10-SF 14(8:57) 10-J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to 11-M.Goodwin.
- 2-10-SF 14(8:53) 10-J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to 15-P.Garcon (34-A.Sendejo). PENALTY on MIN-97-E.Griffen, Illegal Use of Hands, 5 yards, enforced at SF 14 - No Play.
- 3-7-SF 22(7:27) (Shotgun) 10-J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to 85-G.Kittle (54-E.Kendricks).
- (12:44) 10-J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short right to 18-D.Pettis. PENALTY on MIN-26-T.Waynes, Defensive Pass Interference, 15 yards, enforced at MIN 38 - No Play.
- 2-11-MIN 24(12:00) 10-J.Garoppolo pass incomplete short middle to 15-P.Garcon (21-M.Hughes).
- 3-11-MIN 24(11:56) (Shotgun) 10-J.Garoppolo pass incomplete deep left [97-E.Griffen]
most of these were because the receivers didn't want to get smoked by the secondary/defense. and that's not all of them i didn't feel like posting all the box stats... our wr's got tough last week, i expect them to BE tough this week.
I think the Packers pull it out but I honestly wouldn't venture a prediction other than it won't be a slap and tickle fest.
Pakrz posted:I believe AR will play. I also believe that GB’s defense is improved, especially in the secondary.
If MM is smart and deploys a lot of two TE sets with quick throws, GB will win this game. If MM does stupid schit and has AR standing/running around out there waiting for routes to develop, GB will get beat.
We’ll see how smart MM is tomorrow.
My guess... GB wins this game 27 - 20.
I think everyone wants to see two TEs sets but my reasoning is simply not getting Rodgers killed. It would be fantastic to be able to get Marcedes Lewis involved releasing from the line if Graham is again going to be doubled. Redzone, yeah, absolutely two TE set. One to outmuscle and one to outjump.
Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson.
With Elflein out their OL is even more suspect.
Big uglies, *Burks, and the 7 DBs. I think we may see this a lot.
Pakrz posted:If MM is smart and deploys a lot of two TE sets with quick throws, GB will win this game. If MM does stupid schit and has AR standing/running around out there waiting for routes to develop, GB will get beat.
That's all well and good, but 12 is the one with the ball in his hands and needs to execute. It's quite possible that 12 played better in the second half of the bears game because he was limited and had to execute the plays as they were intended to be executed. Pretty unpopular take, I know.
12 personnel with 88 in the backfield will be super productive tomorrow. In Freesafety's HO.
I don't think it's unpopular I just think it's a bit of both. It makes sense to go with the route of quick release but it sounds like that's what the Vikings are planning on. Simply, it needs to be whatever the situation calls for rather than getting bludgeoned and waiting for some kind of adjustment with the game half over.
Hungry5 posted:Daniels, Clark, Wilkerson.
With Elflein out their OL is even more suspect.
Big uglies, *Burks, and the 7 DBs. I think we may see this a lot.
I'm curious to how they'll play the run. Morrison, Martinez and Burks? He's a converted safety so not out of the question. Has anyone heard if he's actually playing tomorrow? I'm guessing he's going to need some catch up time.
McCarthy indicted himself pretty strongly after last week's game. I don't have a good grasp on how to script the first 15 plays when you don't know what the defense looks like. Anybody with any insight? Because Fangio and the Bears (as many of you and McCarthy have pointed out) destroyed that business.
Aaron Rodgers practiced Saturday for the first time since he sprained his knee, increasing the Packers' chances of having their starting quarterback on Sunday vs. the Vikings. A significant step but doesn't guarantee Rodgers' return. More details to come on ESPN shortly.
Henry posted:Brown Paper Sack AGAIN posted:pkr_north posted:i just watched the queen game blech. the 49er wr were really timid - i expect our veterans will be different, also watch for 89 and 80. 49ers had virtually nothing from the te's - little from rb's too...so your sayin there's a chance.
I think you may have watched the wrong game. George Kittle (the TE) gashed the Vikings D repeatedly with their misdirection game and may have had an even bigger day with two big drops (one in the endzone). I was surprised just how athletic that guy is. I'd love to have that guy on the Vikings roster to pair with The Human Iceberg Rudolph.
*apologies for posting out of the Vikings Suck thread
The other thing that surprised me was some of the holes SF opened right down the gut. Of course, Shananhan decides to try and run up the gut about 13 times on the goalline against this team which is sheer genius.
I don't think it's any big revelation the mark of your defense is how you play from in the redzone and it's pretty apparent the Vikings aren't going to give up much more than a FG.
Need some Air Coryell here. It'd be nice to see MVS, speedy ass rookie WR, get up to speed (punishy). Two TE sets seem inevitable. If McVince doesn't utilize Marcedes Lewis more, especially against a physical defense . . .
I believe this is the key to the game.
"We've secretly replaced Mike Zimmer's defensive playbook with Dom Caper's. Let's see what people think!"
I fully expect Rodgers to lull Three Waynes to sleep with the short get-rid-of-the-ball-quick passes, and then, BLAMMO--double move and a deep shot to Hermano Allison. It'll either be caught or P.I.
This WILL happen.
Goldie posted:I hate 538: https://projects.fivethirtyeig...ions/?ex_cid=rrpromo. Queens over Green Bay 60%.
Numbers seem about right to me. I give the Packers a real shot because of the QB and just a feeling that Pettine will cook up something special for Cousins.
I *Burks because his status is not clear.
As for the run, keep them in the middle of the field. Let them have the yards between the 20's. Red zone TDs are not easy... unless you are Aarons Rodgers.
On offense I'd play with Cobb and Montgomery out of the backfield, a lot.
If the quick route is not there for Adams, Allison, Graham dump it to the flat and let them make guys miss. Patience Danielsan.
Brak posted:Pakrz posted:If MM is smart and deploys a lot of two TE sets with quick throws, GB will win this game. If MM does stupid schit and has AR standing/running around out there waiting for routes to develop, GB will get beat.
That's all well and good, but 12 is the one with the ball in his hands and needs to execute. It's quite possible that 12 played better in the second half of the bears game because he was limited and had to execute the plays as they were intended to be executed. Pretty unpopular take, I know.
12 personnel with 88 in the backfield will be super productive tomorrow. In Freesafety's HO.
I was kinda thinking that country singer guy Ty Montgomery could be the packers' X factor this game.
With Zimmer disguising blitzes and dropping DE's into passing lanes, Hitman Harry and The Flying Sendejo looking to blow up the middle, the two 6'4" safeties (Kearse, Iloka) getting mixed in to eyeball Graham....Montgomery could be the forgotten man out there and gash us. Think what Tom Brady does with James White.
I think the Vikings win, but it'll be another one of those "holy ass, that was nerve wracking" games.
Another thing that will give me facial tic's:
Zim Tzu will be rotating d-linemen in and out. That's the plan this year since the debacle vs Philly where Foles took advantage of the lack of pressure because of gassed d-linemen.
Rodgers WILL catch us with 12 men on the field during rotations.
He will also try to get one of them (probably Everson) to jump and get the free play. I just hope we recognize it and keep going after him during the play instead of just standing there.
Anyway, that's enough from me.
Hope it's a clean game and another thriller.