Whatever the ultimate term is, he's done there. Bit of a surprise this late in the game.
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Kind of surprising. I thought he did a good job there.
quote:Originally posted by GBFanForLife:
Lovie out? Jeff in?
Just can't see that happening coming off a season the went into the NFCC.
Mularkey?
Billick?
Reinfeldt still is running the show there. Hopefully they leave our staff alone.
Billick?
Reinfeldt still is running the show there. Hopefully they leave our staff alone.
I wonder if the Titans will keep Vince Young now. That would be a nice sucker punch to all of the Queens fans who were convinced that they were getting Young.
quote:Originally posted by bdplant:
That would be a nice sucker punch to all of theQueensPacker fans who were convinced thattheythe Vikings were getting Young.
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I predicted this way back when Young was "released". Since that can't officially happen until the league year is over Adams could and maybe has changed his mind. Young could easily be back in Tennessee.
That would be dum and his second dumbest thing was saying Young would be released. Al Davis would've pissed away the farm for Young.
Our HC has taken a team to a SB as many times as Fisher has and McCarthy is only in year 5. Fisher is overrated in my opinion. His teams are always tough and reasonably disciplined, but they have never gotten the job done.
I gotta say, I do not get the "OMG JEFF FISHER" love at all.
He had 1 run to the Super Bowl (and lost) that was only enabled by an illegal forward pass on the last play of the game in the opening round vs Buffalo. Since those 3 playoff wins 11 years ago, he's won a grand total of 2 playoff games. He's also lost the opening playoff game as the #1 seed twice.
In the last 7 years, he hasn't won a playoff game, has only gone to the playoffs twice, and is 4 games under .500 in the regular season.
He completely botched the Collins/Young transition. He stared 5-2 this year only to end 6-10. His team provided the appearance of quitting on him multiple points the last 2 years. 59-0 anyone?
I don't get it at all. He's done nothing of note in 11 years and the only year they did anything, the refs didn't have the balls to correctly call the illegal forward pass on that kickoff.
Can't wait for some team to overpay the crap out of him and then we'll have ESPN proclaim that the next up and coming team.
If he didn't have a mustache, no one would care about this guy.
He had 1 run to the Super Bowl (and lost) that was only enabled by an illegal forward pass on the last play of the game in the opening round vs Buffalo. Since those 3 playoff wins 11 years ago, he's won a grand total of 2 playoff games. He's also lost the opening playoff game as the #1 seed twice.
In the last 7 years, he hasn't won a playoff game, has only gone to the playoffs twice, and is 4 games under .500 in the regular season.
He completely botched the Collins/Young transition. He stared 5-2 this year only to end 6-10. His team provided the appearance of quitting on him multiple points the last 2 years. 59-0 anyone?
I don't get it at all. He's done nothing of note in 11 years and the only year they did anything, the refs didn't have the balls to correctly call the illegal forward pass on that kickoff.
Can't wait for some team to overpay the crap out of him and then we'll have ESPN proclaim that the next up and coming team.
If he didn't have a mustache, no one would care about this guy.
In 17 years as a head coach, he's won 22 more regular season games than he's lost. Not a stellar record. I'm surprised he's lasted as long as he has.
Wonder what all those teams that filled their head coaching positions so quick are thinking.
Uggh. Just when I thought we were safe to be keeping Dom Capers for at least another year, this happened. Hopefully Dom doesn't get lured by that circus they've got going there.
I do get the Jeff Fisher love and I don't get the second guessing here in this thread. 17 years as a coach in the NFL in this age is quite an accomplishment. Fisher was never overmatched like Wayne Fontes who only was able to sweet talk the Fords for 9 years. Up to this year, and perhaps the year before, the Titans have historically been a solid organization. I do agree this is very strange and the fight over Vince Young clearly has caused the fabric of the team to unravel.
Wonder why so late? Adams getting a dig at Fisher and not letting him get back into the NFL until 2012?
quote:Originally posted by Green Crustacean:
I do get the Jeff Fisher love and I don't get the second guessing here in this thread. 17 years as a coach in the NFL in this age is quite an accomplishment. Fisher was never overmatched like Wayne Fontes who only was able to sweet talk the Fords for 9 years. Up to this year, and perhaps the year before, the Titans have historically been a solid organization. I do agree this is very strange and the fight over Vince Young clearly has caused the fabric of the team to unravel.
Fisher's teams were always tough and fought hard, but he never really did anything. 17 years, winning % of .542, 5/6 playoff record, 1 SB appearance, 1 conference championship (1 appearance), 4 division championships. That's it.
Just to compare in Bill Cowher's 15 seasons, he compiled a .623 winning %, a 12/9 playoff record, 2 conference championships (2 appearances), 2 SB appearances (1 win), and 9 division championships. The difference is that Cowher is actually a good coach.
Oh and in 5 seasons, Mike McCarthy has a .600 winning %, a 6/4 playoff record, 2 conference championship appearances, 1 conference championship, 1 SB appearance and 1 division championship. Not in Cowher's league, but getting off to a good start.
I see. Apparently I cannot read a bio and a recapitulation of his playoff record on this thread according to you. Facts are facts, sure.
-20th all time in wins.
-Fisher oversaw the team's relocation from Houston in which the Oilers played in four different stadiums between 1996 and 1999 before moving into their current home.
- Since 1999, Tennessee ranks seventh in the NFL in winning percentage with a 110-82 record.
What does McCarthy have to do with this? Did I say he was better than this guy or that guy? Did I say he was better than Cowher? I said I understand the love and I don't understand the crap in this thread. The post season record is not great, but let's put it in perspective. Coaches Winning percentages in NFL Postseason:
Don Shula 0.529
Paul Brown 0.529
Tom Landry 0.555
2 or 3 more wins and he is on par or better than those legends. Is Fisher a HOF coach? borderline.
Further, do I send love to Sam Wyche? Playoffs: 0.600, Reg Season 84-107 over 12 seasons.
Fisher is a very good coach. I understand the love for Fisher. I didn't say he was the best.
-20th all time in wins.
-Fisher oversaw the team's relocation from Houston in which the Oilers played in four different stadiums between 1996 and 1999 before moving into their current home.
- Since 1999, Tennessee ranks seventh in the NFL in winning percentage with a 110-82 record.
What does McCarthy have to do with this? Did I say he was better than this guy or that guy? Did I say he was better than Cowher? I said I understand the love and I don't understand the crap in this thread. The post season record is not great, but let's put it in perspective. Coaches Winning percentages in NFL Postseason:
Don Shula 0.529
Paul Brown 0.529
Tom Landry 0.555
2 or 3 more wins and he is on par or better than those legends. Is Fisher a HOF coach? borderline.
Further, do I send love to Sam Wyche? Playoffs: 0.600, Reg Season 84-107 over 12 seasons.
Fisher is a very good coach. I understand the love for Fisher. I didn't say he was the best.
16 years as head coach at Houston/Tenn ... 6 winning seasons !!
Overrated !!
Overrated !!
I get your point Packdog, up to the point of overrated. I've stuck up for Fisher all that I care to. I don't know him like I know GB coaches, but I think his record says he is a very good coach. I'm done on this.
They managed to acquire the best punter of almost all time!
Err sumthin...
On a positive note, they did gain a reputation of thuggery and asshatness that rivaled few teams. JF was often credited for that persona.
If anyone cared about it, it would have mattered.
BTW, SUPERBOWL BABY!
Out of the kindness of my heart, they can overpay Slocum and maybe even Campen for their new stuff. Oh wait I mean staff.
Green towels for the fans is all that matter right now!
Err sumthin...
On a positive note, they did gain a reputation of thuggery and asshatness that rivaled few teams. JF was often credited for that persona.
If anyone cared about it, it would have mattered.
BTW, SUPERBOWL BABY!
Out of the kindness of my heart, they can overpay Slocum and maybe even Campen for their new stuff. Oh wait I mean staff.
Green towels for the fans is all that matter right now!
It couldn't have happened to a nicer franchise.
GC,
Wasn't trying to offend you, just giving you my counterargument.
I wasn't putting words in your mouth either, I was merely pointing out that I think Cowher is one of the best all time and it's hard to find someone to compare Fisher to. There aren't many coaches who have been in 1 place as a HC for that long, Cowher is one of the few. That much I will give Fisher credit for, he has survived. Heck, even Lombardi was only in GB what, 11 years? And let me be clear, I'm not saying Fisher is a bad coach, but he just gets a lot of hype simply for being in 1 place for a long time. And that's fine, but his results in that 17 year span have been ho hum. He's got a lot of wins and has had some great teams, but looking at his overall body of work, I remain underwhelmed.
I wasn't saying McCarthy was any better or even including him in my argument against Fisher, I was pointing out his resume as our HC is surprisingly good. I was just excited when I looked it up. McCarthy has the mindset and vision to be the next Bill Cowher, but who knows if he will.
Wasn't trying to offend you, just giving you my counterargument.
I wasn't putting words in your mouth either, I was merely pointing out that I think Cowher is one of the best all time and it's hard to find someone to compare Fisher to. There aren't many coaches who have been in 1 place as a HC for that long, Cowher is one of the few. That much I will give Fisher credit for, he has survived. Heck, even Lombardi was only in GB what, 11 years? And let me be clear, I'm not saying Fisher is a bad coach, but he just gets a lot of hype simply for being in 1 place for a long time. And that's fine, but his results in that 17 year span have been ho hum. He's got a lot of wins and has had some great teams, but looking at his overall body of work, I remain underwhelmed.
I wasn't saying McCarthy was any better or even including him in my argument against Fisher, I was pointing out his resume as our HC is surprisingly good. I was just excited when I looked it up. McCarthy has the mindset and vision to be the next Bill Cowher, but who knows if he will.
quote:Originally posted by Coach:
Billick?
I like Billick. He should get another shot and I thought Buffalo blew it by not bringing him on.
If thisis the reason, Adams is a petty old man. He has put his franchise in this tough situation over that?