This should indicate to other GM's that ROTTT will not draft a center in the 1st rd.
I expect Uncle Ted will now have a shot at the Center he is looking at and draft that Center in the 1st rd.
Excellent. Now we fix the D and get a running back who catches passes. LaMichael James anyone?
quote:get a running back who catches passes
Alex Green?
Good deal. Now we don't have to worry about possibly using a high draft pick on a center who would have to start as a rookie.
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:quote:get a running back who catches passes
Alex Green?
Saine. Best hands on the team according to AR...
As long as the cost is not too high...
Easy Answer - Bought my house in 2008 3 months before Lehman and Bear imploded. Down 30%. Do the math and now you will know why I grumpy. However, it is a beautiful town. Classic historic CT setting, 2 acre lots, top 5 school system in state. Jeff Saturday would love it. Its where 35 - 40 year old New yorkers go to settle down. He is the perfect age.
Come to think of it, trying to figure out who made a worse financial decision. Me for buying a house in 2008 or Rom Wolf signing Joe Johnson to a 15 million contract.
Come to think of it, trying to figure out who made a worse financial decision. Me for buying a house in 2008 or Rom Wolf signing Joe Johnson to a 15 million contract.
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
As long as thecostguaranteed dough is not too high...
the more I examine this signing the more I like it. Saturday graded out at 14.2 on PPF, just 4 points behind Wells, good for fifth among all centers. He's terrific in pass protection, giving up only 2 sacks all last season.
The signing also allows TT to concentrate his higher picks on d-linemen, which is terrific.
The signing also allows TT to concentrate his higher picks on d-linemen, which is terrific.
One way to look at this signing is the price paid for Nick McDonald not working out. The team did have a replacement for Wells in mind that they were developing, but he didn't work out. The lack of an offseason may have contributed to that. Anyway, Saturday is not the worst stopgap - we can draft a center in the mid or late rounds to develop.
quote:Originally posted by kworst:
Easy Answer - Bought my house in 2008 3 months before Lehman and Bear imploded. Down 30%. Do the math and now you will know why I grumpy. However, it is a beautiful town. Classic historic CT setting, 2 acre lots, top 5 school system in state. Jeff Saturday would love it. Its where 35 - 40 year old New yorkers go to settle down. He is the perfect age.
Come to think of it, trying to figure out who made a worse financial decision. Me for buying a house in 2008 or Rom Wolf signing Joe Johnson to a 15 million contract.
Yeah, you sniveling about money is pretty much the last straw. Please feel to proceed though.
aaron has to be getting a nice boner from this signing. i sure am.
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:quote:get a running back who catches passes
Alex Green?
our 2012 starter by year end. roll it and smoke it!
Saturday also made audible and line calls in Indianapolis even with Manning shifting plays at the line. He's likely a small step back in blocking but they shouldn't lose a step in protection calls to help avoid free runs at Rodgers.
quote:Originally posted by kworst:
Rom Wolf signing Joe Johnson to a 15 million contract.
Rom Wolf didn't sign Joe Johnson, your pal Mike Sherman did
quote:Johnson signed a six-year, $33 million contract with the Packers in March of 2002
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Years from now Jeff Saturday will tell his grandchildren that he's one of the few center's to snap the ball to two Hall Of Fame QB's. Good signing.
Curtis Painter to the Hall? C'mon, man.
I'm not talking about Curtis Painter. He's marginal at best. I'm talking about Dan Orlovsky.
quote:Originally posted by Boris:quote:Originally posted by kworst:
Rom Wolf signing Joe Johnson to a 15 million contract.
Rom Wolf didn't sign Joe Johnson, your pal Mike Sherman didquote:Johnson signed a six-year, $33 million contract with the Packers in March of 2002
Rom Wolf let the great Amtomio Dimgle get away.
Sorgi makes more sense, Chilli.
Good call Herschel.
Nice job Ted. Great short term solution.
Dan Orlovsky stepped into an impossible situation and calmly led the Colts to their 1st win last year in week 15 by unleashing a dizzying arial assault that resulted in a touchdown and 82 yards passing.
Plus, there's this,
The HOF has to play bloopers, right? So whatever. In is in!
Plus, there's this,
The HOF has to play bloopers, right? So whatever. In is in!
I am really interested to see the 2 contracts now. (BTW, did anyone release the $$ details for Wells.) Wells' contract is obviously longer, but I am interested in the delta. It will be a rare insight into how much TT values bringing in a 38 year old elite center to replace a 33 year old elite center.
in all this draft a center talk, don't forget Sampson Genus is already on the team. who knows, after OTAs and training camp....
quote:Originally posted by drmrboy21:
Great signing, IMO.
Welcome back, DoctorMisterBoy21. Haven't seen you round these parts in a long time.
Per Saturday's agent he confirmed it is a 2 year deal.
And rumor is somewhere in the 3.5-4 mil per year range w/ GB being able to opt out of it in 2013. So if Saturday regresses GB is quickly off the hook w/ the contract.
And rumor is somewhere in the 3.5-4 mil per year range w/ GB being able to opt out of it in 2013. So if Saturday regresses GB is quickly off the hook w/ the contract.
Beautiful! I'll bet they would've gone as high as $5 million for Wells but this is a Perfect deal for the Packers & jeff.
Let's get that ring!!!
Let's get that ring!!!
quote:Originally posted by kworst:
Easy Answer - Bought my house in 2008 3 months before Lehman and Bear imploded. Down 30%. Do the math and now you will know why I grumpy. However, it is a beautiful town. Classic historic CT setting, 2 acre lots, top 5 school system in state. Jeff Saturday would love it. Its where 35 - 40 year old New yorkers go to settle down. He is the perfect age.
Come to think of it, trying to figure out who made a worse financial decision. Me for buying a house in 2008 or Rom Wolf signing Joe Johnson to a 15 million contract.
Easier answer- Who cares? The only semi intelligent comments I've ever seen next to your name was after 9/11. It took one of the worst times in our country's history to see that you're not always a sniveling idot. But you quickly regained your whining ways! Carry on!
quote:Its where 35 - 40 year old New yorkers go to settle down.
Um...no. But it totally makes sense that you would end up there. Please stay.
That kind of money is what they were rumored to be offering Wells (about 4 million), sounds like Thompson values elite 30+ Centers in that price range. It's a good deal though, Saturday may not physically be what he used to be, but he is probably there aren't many other Centers I would trust to make all the right line calls. This not only allows us to draft a replacement and let him sit for a year or two, but it protects us in case we miss out on one of the top Center prospects.
If Konz isn't an option, I think they look towards Michigan C David Molk. He just seems like the kind of OL Thompson drafts. He has that kind of nasty, mix it up attitude that seems to be a common thread with the OL they draft. On field attitude and demeanor were two of the most frequently mentioned qualities with both Josh Sitton and TJ Lang, Molk seems like he fits right in with those two.
If Konz isn't an option, I think they look towards Michigan C David Molk. He just seems like the kind of OL Thompson drafts. He has that kind of nasty, mix it up attitude that seems to be a common thread with the OL they draft. On field attitude and demeanor were two of the most frequently mentioned qualities with both Josh Sitton and TJ Lang, Molk seems like he fits right in with those two.
This is a great, great move by Ted! I've always liked Saturday (moreso when Lord Peyton started yelling at him, and Jeff didn't back down). Five time Pro Bowler, two time All Pro...he's a winner, and will solidify the line. Two years $3.5-4 million per with an opt out for the second season....pretty cheap for what we're getting. More importantly, his signing means we can go nuts drafting defense in the draft, and go after a center in the third round. Whoever we get, he'll be able to learn from one of the greats in the game.
Having Saturday under center is like having a second quarterback. Aaron can call an audible, and Jeff will move the other linemen around while he's doing it. I'm a big Manning fan, and have spent a lot of time watching the Colts, and Jeff is really active.
Manning is lucky Saturday didn't get up. It would have looked kinda like this.
Timmeh would have gotten smacked.
Having Saturday under center is like having a second quarterback. Aaron can call an audible, and Jeff will move the other linemen around while he's doing it. I'm a big Manning fan, and have spent a lot of time watching the Colts, and Jeff is really active.
Manning is lucky Saturday didn't get up. It would have looked kinda like this.
Timmeh would have gotten smacked.
quote:Originally posted by kworst:
I just hope he has the same impact as the other 36 - 37 year old guy, steve mcmichael, that we added to improve the line many years ago.
And this is related to the offensive line in some way?
Who is the better bet to get a Super Bowl ring after this season, Jeff Saturday or Peyton Manning? And while typing Peyton it got me thinking, if the Saints by miracles or miracles win the Super Bowl does Sean Payton get a ring?
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
does Sean Payton get a ring?
I would assume not Ammo thoough teams have large discretion with who they give them to (See Al Harris).
Jonny Jolly never got one correct? SB was the year he was suspended yes ?
I like it! ! On Friday, Saturday signs to play on Sunday
Packerboi's report about Saturday's contract was pretty close:
quote:@AdamSchefter: Jeff Saturday's two-year deal in Green Bay is worth $7.75 million, including $4 million this season.
quote:Originally posted by ammo:
Who is the better bet to get a Super Bowl ring after this season, Jeff Saturday or Peyton Manning? And while typing Peyton it got me thinking, if the Saints by miracles or miracles win the Super Bowl does Sean Payton get a ring?
I say Saturday has the better shot to win a ring this season. Unfortunately, as good as Manning has been, and has the potential to be, cleared by doctors or not, we are talking about his neck, and I think he gets hurt and doesn't last the season. As far as "coach" Payton goes, may he never coach another snap in this league!
Sounds like a McCarthy-influenced move. He talked about their multi-scheme offense and how important Wells was to facilitating the calls for that offense. Saturday at least has experience with the complexities that Manning's offense consisted of, so perhaps there's less of a curve.
I worry about him breaking down, though... EDS is the only back-up, right? Obviously a draft pick seems likely, and Saturday is the kind of guy you entrust with mentorship, so perhaps it's all a series of calculated moves. They wanted to get younger there, and were not willing to commit long-term to Wells knowing he's getting older as well and would likely break down more.
I worry about him breaking down, though... EDS is the only back-up, right? Obviously a draft pick seems likely, and Saturday is the kind of guy you entrust with mentorship, so perhaps it's all a series of calculated moves. They wanted to get younger there, and were not willing to commit long-term to Wells knowing he's getting older as well and would likely break down more.