quote:Originally posted by Coach:
Investing in stadium improvements....yep, that's a horrible idea.
Sure is......probably why they'll have a new stadium in 3 years.
Sure is......probably why they'll have a new stadium in 3 years.
Sure is......probably why they'll have a new stadium in 3 years.
Will it be anywhere near the state of Minnesota?
Sorry. Could not resist.
Sorry. Could not resist.
self-deleted because i insulted another poster.
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
Sure is......probably why they'll have a new stadium in 3 years.
A little late to the party, no?
Of course not.
quote:Originally posted by trump:quote:Originally posted by Va. Packer:
Look. I'm no Brett Favre advocate. It has nothing to do with the Vikings. Every since he threw that pop fly in the Philly 4th and 26 fiasco, then sauntered off the field like he had done nothing more than throw and empty gum wrapper on the ground, the charm left.
But make no mistake about it. This is about Greg Jennings bitterness. Not Brett Favre's. I think it's clear most of us underestimated the rancor. And it all has to do with the money GB took off the table when the FA market set itself.
I totally agree with this BUT if you think GJennings started this nonsense after the season was over, yer an idot.
He cadillaced the season .... I do not like that.
The hillbilly just verified the whorehouses and Applebees.
Also no doubt in my mind TT is cuttin to the very core of who wants to be here and they'll be in Green Bay at their true worth.
I can not tell you how much I respect TT's attitude towards running this franchise and building a team. He protects Green Bay Packer fans from themselves for the good of the Franchise.
Did you write this with your left foot?
I don't give a rats ass when it started. I just stated it has all the earmarks of a player bitter over money.
And enough with the TT walks on water crap too. I believe he's right here just like I believed he was right with Favre. He isn't infallible. Nobody is. Reminds of the foolishness when some folks tried to pretend #4 was.
quote:Oh yeah, you have a special relationship with them until they decide to do what most people on this planet chose to do when given a choice...make more money.
TT offered Jennings $10 mil/year last year. Now he's getting $9.5 mil/year to play with Christian Ponder in a run first offense.
Not to mention the hardware Rodgers could've gotten for Jennings if he'd stayed a few more years.
Now he'll never win anything. Cause he plays for the Vikings.
LOL...
@VaPacker
whatever, i was talkin in general, didn't mean to rattle the mountain folk.
whatever, i was talkin in general, didn't mean to rattle the mountain folk.
quote:Originally posted by Va. Packer:
Will it be anywhere near the state of Minnesota?
Sorry. Could not resist.
Is that comment supposed to have any significant meaning? Any at all?
quote:Originally posted by bubbleboy789:quote:Oh yeah, you have a special relationship with them until they decide to do what most people on this planet chose to do when given a choice...make more money.
TT offered Jennings $10 mil/year last year. Now he's getting $9.5 mil/year to play with Christian Ponder in a run first offense.
Not to mention the hardware Rodgers could've gotten for Jennings if he'd stayed a few more years.
Now he'll never win anything. Cause he plays for the Vikings.
LOL...
Why wouldn't they offer him $10M this year then? I'll tell you why...because THEY decided he wasn't worth it after the market set itself. Funny, he was worth it last year but not this year. It's okay when the franchise pulls the rug out from a player, whether it be Jennings or any scrub on the bench. But Heaven forbid that Jennings decides he wants to do what HE feels is best for himself and his family. No...anything but that......
Greg Jennings doesn't work for you. I don't care how many worthless pieces of paper that you proudly have stapled to your wall. He's not indebted to you.
He, just like any person in this country, is free to seek his employment wherever he feels is best suited for him.
But that's just too much for you entitled dummies to swallow.
"What? Greg Jennings doesn't want to play for US? How dare he? Where's the gas can honey?"
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
Just more fan bias. It's expected. They take care of their own? More than other teams? Even when their usefulness or their ROI has dried up? Please.
Examples, please.
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
And you guys can call it "stock" all you want. What it is, is one of the greatest scams of all time. A brilliant move by someone in the packler's organization, fleecing delusional people who think they actually "own" part of the team.
That dude was brilliant.
Cash in your stock, fandame. Call up ted and tell him that you, the owner, have a personal move you'd like them to make. LOL...I saved $250 and have just as much pull with "your" team as you do.
That dude was brilliant.
As Coach noted, investing in stadium improvements. And yes, the dude was brilliant. Keeping the franchise viable without selling to some nomadic owner who will pack up their tent for $$ greener $$ pastures when the whim strikes.
As a Vikes fan, how sure are you the team won't be sold or move?
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
Why wouldn't they offer him $10M this year then? I'll tell you why...because THEY decided he wasn't worth it after the market set itself. Funny, he was worth it last year but not this year. It's okay when the franchise pulls the rug out from a player, whether it be Jennings or any scrub on the bench. But Heaven forbid that Jennings decides he wants to do what HE feels is best for himself and his family. No...anything but that......
Greg Jennings doesn't work for you. I don't care how many worthless pieces of paper that you proudly have stapled to your wall. He's not indebted to you.
He, just like any person in this country, is free to seek his employment wherever he feels is best suited for him.
But that's just too much for you entitled dummies to swallow.
"What? Greg Jennings doesn't want to play for US? How dare he? Where's the gas can honey?"
I have no problem with Jennings wanting to maximize his earning potential... the thing is, he didn't and that is bad business. He gambled on himself and lost.
exactly. he's taking less money to play for a crap franchise with a crap quarterback.
Jaymo, it's not fishing season yet. Quit trolling. Go home. Wait until we play. If you win, fine, come insult us (but don't expect us to take it quietly; it's our board). If you lose, go away forever or at least until you can converse knowledgeably, humorously, and in good taste. I suspect you are a poster who prefers to troll rather than discuss, so prove me wrong when IF the time comes. It's getting tiresome, IMHO.
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
And you guys can call it "stock" all you want. What it is, is one of the greatest scams of all time. A brilliant move by someone in the packler's organization, fleecing delusional people who think they actually "own" part of the team.
Let's stick with facts. There's no fleecing involved here. Stock sales are completely volunatary. Worth zero cash value, and no one believes a purchase of stock offers any "ownership" value whatsoever. It's completely a voluntary offer made by the organization to fans of the Packers to help the team in their efforts to improve and update Lambeau Field. The offer is made not only for fans in Green Bay, but for Packer fans nationwide.
The stock sale in 2011 resulted in 268,000 shares being sold to Packer fans looking to support their team. This helped the Packers raise $67 million to help offset construction costs to improve Lambeau.
It's important that we focus on voluntary and the fact that the $67 million came directly from Packer fans.
Compare that to the $400 million (and possibly more the way things are going) the taxpayers of MN are being forced to provide to build a stadium to replace a stadium built 31 years ago. That $400 million is coming from Viking fans, non viking fans, people who could care less about football in general, everyone.
IMO, that's a fleecing.
Stop with the facts.
Vagine fans have to create a propaganda program just to be able to cope with the success of the Packers vs. their **** organization.
It's really pretty amazing study in group think (mope really) to have a culture that is more wrapped around trying to create a alternate history around a rival's traditions and successes then reveling in their own team's victories.
Look at the effort of a these two slapdicks to come to a Packer board not to flap gums with some normal ribbing but to think they are actually winning some kind of propaganda campaign.
The Truther label becomes more salient with every post.
Vagine fans have to create a propaganda program just to be able to cope with the success of the Packers vs. their **** organization.
It's really pretty amazing study in group think (mope really) to have a culture that is more wrapped around trying to create a alternate history around a rival's traditions and successes then reveling in their own team's victories.
Look at the effort of a these two slapdicks to come to a Packer board not to flap gums with some normal ribbing but to think they are actually winning some kind of propaganda campaign.
The Truther label becomes more salient with every post.
I had just come to accept Jennings chasing the $ but he couldn't keep his mouth shut. Then I heard about good ol' Purple Brent coming thru again. Of course someone will tell me to "move on" and "get over it" cuz the Farve fallout happened years ago. But apparently he hasn't...
You are known by the company you keep.
**** you gerg.
**** you gerg.
This past season really had me questioning Jennings. After this whole **** show, my thoughts are confirmed. Have fun in Viqueenland dip****!
quote:Worth zero cash value, and no one believes a purchase of stock offers any "ownership" value whatsoever.
Doesn't it offer you the opportunity to vote on the executive board?
Not that it's easy to outvote the original (pre-1997) shareholders, of course.
from MI PACK's article link:
exactly
and this beauty of a comment afterward from the definition of a frustrated queen fan:
quote:Jennings freed up cap space for the Packers and forced a hated divisional opponent to overpay. What a generous parting gift!
exactly
and this beauty of a comment afterward from the definition of a frustrated queen fan:
quote:And just so were clear, I'd rather have have a team with no championships then a team that peaked 3 years ago. Stop living in the past, bro.
Interesting side note from the article linked by MI Pack:
and instead milking the desperate Vikings, the league’s second-worst passing team (just ahead of the Chiefs) last year.
Now the Vikings have also signed Matt Cassel, QB of the worst passing team last season. The Viqueens have traded their best WR and brought in the lately made of glass Jennings and they expect their passing game to improve? Is it possible the Viqueens could finish lower than 32nd in passing?
and instead milking the desperate Vikings, the league’s second-worst passing team (just ahead of the Chiefs) last year.
Now the Vikings have also signed Matt Cassel, QB of the worst passing team last season. The Viqueens have traded their best WR and brought in the lately made of glass Jennings and they expect their passing game to improve? Is it possible the Viqueens could finish lower than 32nd in passing?
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Not learning Silent Killer
You better talk to fandame...she certainly thinks that her "stock" holds some value.
And since we're "sticking to the facts", tell me how the state of Minnesota is forcing me to provide any part of the $400M coming from "Viking fans, people who could care less about football in general, everyone."
You might want to inform yourself a little better before you make such ridiculous statements.
I'm a Viking fan and a resident of Minnesota. I don't expect to pay a penny for the new stadium unless I voluntarily choose to.
I wonder if the latest development regarding Jennings has changed Murphy's mind any regarding the pact with Favre
Pact with Favre
Pact with Favre
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:
from MI PACK's article link:
quote:Jennings freed up cap space for the Packers and forced a hated divisional opponent to overpay. What a generous parting gift!
Boris said it first.
Jaymo = deadbeat no tax payer......or else she is 13.
quote:You might want to inform yourself a little better before you make such ridiculous statements.
I guess you hole up in your basement and never go downtown and have fun.
http://minnesota.publicradio.o...hift-vikings-stadium
quote:The measure redirects the city's hospitality tax to pay its $150 million share of construction costs for the new stadium on the site of the Metrodome. The tax is levied on purchases of food, liquor and lodging downtown.
Better hope that "Bingo gaming" business picks up, it's coming in a little short of what was expected to go towards the state's $400 million tab...
But hey, Wilf did step up and promise to support $477 of his own money. Didn't stop him from taking a $200 million low interest loan with 25 years to pay back from the NFL yesterday though.
But hey, Wilf did step up and promise to support $477 of his own money. Didn't stop him from taking a $200 million low interest loan with 25 years to pay back from the NFL yesterday though.
quote:Originally posted by Tdog:quote:You might want to inform yourself a little better before you make such ridiculous statements.
I guess you hole up in your basement and never go downtown and have fun.
http://minnesota.publicradio.o...hift-vikings-stadium
quote:The measure redirects the city's hospitality tax to pay its $150 million share of construction costs for the new stadium on the site of the Metrodome. The tax is levied on purchases of food, liquor and lodging downtown.
I'll give you credit. At least you try hard. Even though you are still wrong. Let's take a look at what was originally said:
Compare that to the $400 million (and possibly more the way things are going) the taxpayers of MN are being forced to provide to build a stadium to replace a stadium built 31 years ago. That $400 million is coming from Viking fans, non viking fans, people who could care less about football in general, everyone.
Now, he is stating that the "taxpayers of MN" are being "forced" to pay this. WRONG.
And it seems that you are claiming that the "taxpayers of MN" are being "forced" to pay $150M. WRONG.
You do understand the difference between the city of Mpls and All of Minnesota/Viking fans, do you not?
Once again, show me where I, a resident of Minnesota, will be forced to pay one penny of the stadium unless I choose to.
Take your time.
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Better hope that "Bingo gaming" business picks up, it's coming in a little short of what was expected to go towards the state's $400 million tab...
But hey, Wilf did step up and promise to support $477 of his own money. Didn't stop him from taking a $200 million low interest loan with 25 years to pay back from the NFL yesterday though.
So I'm not being forced to pay for the stadium? What is it, ChilliJon?
I bow to your superior non-payment abilities. I enjoy supporting my team.
GO PACK GO!
I'm done with your tired ass shtick.
Enjoy our retreads - we're drafting more soon for your 2018 roster.
Keep up the ineptitude and jealousy - it's adorable.
GO PACK GO!
I'm done with your tired ass shtick.
Enjoy our retreads - we're drafting more soon for your 2018 roster.
Keep up the ineptitude and jealousy - it's adorable.
Don't eat, drink or stay in Minneapolis and don't buy the electronic versions of pulltabs and sure, you don't pay in to this fund - directly.
BUT... if you are MIN resident and taxpayer you should be concerned.
quote:
ST. PAUL, Minn. -- The Vikings stadium deal that Minnesota Gov. Mark Dayton signed into law Monday involves plenty of public participation, but it also prevents the public from getting a look at the team's finances during their partnership to build the $975 million stadium.
The law commits the state and city of Minneapolis to pay a combined $498 million, while the team will bring in $477 million from private sources.
quote:
The city is redirecting an existing hospitality tax to pay its $150 million share of the stadium construction, while the state will cover its $348 million contribution through taxes on new electronic versions of pulltabs, a low-tech paper game sold by charitable organizations in bars and restaurants.
BUT... if you are MIN resident and taxpayer you should be concerned.
quote:
One provision would shield "any financial information" from the team from public eyes. Critics say the blanket protection goes beyond current state law, leaving taxpayers in the dark on one of the state's biggest public works projects. Minnesota law already allows businesses that get state money to avoid disclosing trade secrets, business plans, tax returns and other financial data.
Jaymo, I was wrong. Only the people downtown are footing the bill. My mistake.
quote:Originally posted by Jaymo:
You better talk to fandame...she certainly thinks that her "stock" holds some value.
No clue where you got this idea from. Did you read what I said? Nope, you must not have. Did I ever say stockholders have a say in the team decisions? Nope. Did I ever say I hold stock? Nope.
And let's not forget that besides the "stock" sale, Brown County also implemented a half cent sales tax to bring in a huge chunk of money on the Lambeau renovation. So, lets stop pretending that the packlers organization and its fan base are somehow better or do things differently/better than anyone else. It's nothing more than your own little fantasy world that you insist on living in.
Is this nonsense still going on?? Boys, let it go. Comparing these two organizations is really comparing apples and oranges and hardly worth the time. That is fact and everyone deep down knows it.
I see Jaymo has wandered over from pubechat and it looks like he's bringing over some of his legion of idiots.
They have no problem ripping Packer fans for paying $250 to help out the team. But it's OK have the general public foot the bill for Zygi Wilf's awful looking stadium - without a referendum of course.
How are those electronic pulltabs working out Jaymo? Have they topped $10 million in gross revenue yet? 
They have no problem ripping Packer fans for paying $250 to help out the team. But it's OK have the general public foot the bill for Zygi Wilf's awful looking stadium - without a referendum of course.
How are those electronic pulltabs working out Jaymo? Have they topped $10 million in gross revenue yet?
