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I don't know about why everyone else buys Packer stock....I did to pay for a collector's item. No different than a game jersey or something like that.

I don't know how you can say taxing downtown Minneapolis isn't making people pay for the new stadium, including people who do not follow the Vikings (not all, since some old lady could stay in Zumbrota and never help foot the bill....but what about the clubbers at First Avenue?)

I don't know much about science...

But I do know that Jaymo has seriously detered my enjoyment of x4....and my faith in humanity. I don't come to x4 to read snippy little arguments centered on semantics and opinions and half-statements. If I want to do that I can go talk to the middle schooler across the street.

Sorry....I am upset about the influx. This is a Packer site, we discuss and debate and sometime argue over Packer topics but we all do so because we honestly are fans of the Packers and care about these things. Jaymo seems to be here just to argue. I have lots of friends who are Viking fans and we can agree to disagree. Jaymo and those of us who continue to feed him need to do the same. No one is ever going to miraculously change the opinion of a fan of another team...no matter how hard you try.

I just don't like this time wasting, thread filling argumentative garbage....especially on a site "dedicated to the Green Bay Packers and their fans"
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Originally posted by The GBP Rules:
I see Jaymo has wandered over from pubechat and it looks like he's bringing over some of his legion of idiots.

They have no problem ripping Packer fans for paying $250 to help out the team. But it's OK have the general public foot the bill for Zygi Wilf's awful looking stadium - without a referendum of course.

How are those electronic pulltabs working out Jaymo? Have they topped $10 million in gross revenue yet? Confused


I didn't bring anybody over here. No clue who these other clowns are. I think it's great that you can donate money to your team. I'd do it if I could, but the league doesn't allow it. It makes you no better of a fan it person. And the general publics not footing the bill. Please be informed. I have no idea how the electronic gambling is going. Doesn't affect me, but I don't expect it to be running at full steam yet considering they don't even have most of the games implemented yet.
Yep, that "stock" is just a semi-expensive collectible, no different that a Rickey Henderson rookie card, original Luke Skywalker action figure or that Franklin Mint Santa Clause plate. People like to have stuff to put on a shelf/hang on a wall and look at.
That's cool, tdog. Ignore all you want. Ban me? Are you really that sensitive? I'm not degrading anybody. I'm not mocking anybody. Simple discussion about two teams fan bases and players. It's to bad you can't handle that, I like your input.
You and a few others at Rube Chat think it's funny to go over to Packer boards and rub in the fact that either you beat the Packers once or signed a Packer player. Seen it before with the T-Wolves (during the summer battle they had with Portland over Batum). Guys think they are cute and clever by rattling feathers over at rival teams' boards.

What's floating way over your head apparently is that the Packers brass, if they wanted to, would have/could have brought Jennings back. Think about this logically for a minute. If Ted Thompson had any regret or concern of letting Jennings go to Minnesota, don't you think he would have slapped a franchise tag on him?
jayblow can't seem to see the difference between the two franchises. One is a model for success and how a franchise should be run and the other is a complete mess from the owner down to the managment down to the players and all the way down to their jealous fan base. As much as they say they hate the Packers and all they represent they sure as hell do their best to one-up them ever chance they get.

I especially am fond of the time the Vikings make sure to get ol Brad Childress signed before he left the building to make sure the Packers did not get him. Two minutes with that Fraud is all TT would have needed to see he was not coaching material.

I am especially fond of those "Thanks Ted" jerseys. I have to admit I was surprised those guys could see the future as well as they did. We all know how that debacle turned out for them. As they say, Thanks Ted...

And now they are gloating over the fact that they got Jennnings. Like it was some kind of coup. As all the other times before them, Lets see how this plays out over the next couple of years. I have a feeling, Ted will win again, as he always does.

A year from now, the Vikings will probably have hired a new head coach, vanquished Ponder to the Arena league, and drafting in the top five again. The more that team and organization tries to change, they remain the same. A bottom feeder team with one of the worst managements in sports.
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Originally posted by Floridarob:
jayblow can't seem to see the difference between the two franchises. One is a model for success and how a franchise should be run and the other is a complete mess from the owner down to the managment down to the players and all the way down to their jealous fan base. As much as they say they hate the Packers and all they represent they sure as hell do their best to one-up them ever chance they get.

I especially am fond of the time the Vikings make sure to get ol Brad Childress signed before he left the building to make sure the Packers did not get him. Two minutes with that Fraud is all TT would have needed to see he was not coaching material.

I am especially fond of those "Thanks Ted" jerseys. I have to admit I was surprised those guys could see the future as well as they did. We all know how that debacle turned out for them. As they say, Thanks Ted...

And now they are gloating over the fact that they got Jennnings. Like it was some kind of coup. As all the other times before them, Lets see how this plays out over the next couple of years. I have a feeling, Ted will win again, as he always does.

A year from now, the Vikings will probably have hired a new head coach, vanquished Ponder to the Arena league, and drafting in the top five again. The more that team and organization tries to change, they remain the same. A bottom feeder team with one of the worst managements in sports.


Floridabob, being so angry all the time isn't healthy. Fabre, Longwell, and Sharper all had probowl years with the Vikings. Nothing wrong with those pickups at all. Hopefully Jennings follows suit. Time will tell. But we both can be confident that the shoe wouldn't be on the other foot if the packlers signed a similarily skilled Viking player. Nope.
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Originally posted by Jaymo:

It makes you no better of a fan it person.


The basis of truther insecurity seeps through. So you show up here on a Packers board to vomit the usual drivel about Packers stock sales and then wish you could do it. Then as you bloviating and bellyaching you flash your engorged baboon ass with the standard Spermhead insecurities. What is your whole purpose here again? Try to have a spine and admit exactly what your whole reason for posting is?

And Jaymo will probably never pay a tax because just like the other chowderhead he's terrified of leaving the suburbs.

You will pay if the lottery setup doesn't generate the State's cut. That's a fact. Go ahead and tell me if the lottery doesn't generate the needed funds this year and next year you won't be paying taxes. So buy up chump. It's the way of modern NFL business but don't think for a second you aren't paying one way or another.
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Originally posted by Jaymo:
And let's not forget that besides the "stock" sale, Brown County also implemented a half cent sales tax to bring in a huge chunk of money on the Lambeau renovation. So, lets stop pretending that the packlers organization and its fan base are somehow better or do things differently/better than anyone else. It's nothing more than your own little fantasy world that you insist on living in.

There is no pretending... there is no fantasy.

13 NFL World Titles
4 SB Titles
One of the most successful PRO franchises around (4 major sports)
A small market team thriving in a big market world


Simple fact is that the Packers do things differently and better than most.


A league full of GMs acting more like Ted Thompson is simply good business.



Your jealousy is growing.... good, good.

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
That's cool, tdog. Ignore all you want. Ban me? Are you really that sensitive? I'm not degrading anybody. I'm not mocking anybody. Simple discussion about two teams fan bases and players. It's to bad you can't handle that, I like your input.


I'll be you huckleberry.

You can pretend that's your intent but everything you've posted here is the equivalent of a clown going through mid-life crisis with a side of ED trying to show off his Mazda Miata.
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Originally posted by Jaymo:

But we both can be confident that the shoe wouldn't be on the other foot if the packlers signed a similarily skilled Viking player. Nope.


That would actually have to happen in the first place. Packers draft them and win championships with them, you overpay them on their way down. The stats sure are pretty though. Too bad it never amounts to anything.

That is the goal right? To win championships?
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by Jaymo:

It makes you no better of a fan it person.


The basis of truther insecurity seeps through. So you show up here on a Packers board to vomit the usual drivel about Packers stock sales and then wish you could do it. Then as you bloviating and bellyaching you flash your engorged baboon ass with the standard Spermhead insecurities. What is your whole purpose here again? Try to have a spine and admit exactly what your whole reason for posting is?

And Jaymo will probably never pay a tax because just like the other chowderhead he's terrified of leaving the suburbs.

You will pay if the lottery setup doesn't generate the State's cut. That's a fact. Go ahead and tell me if the lottery doesn't generate the needed funds this year and next year you won't be paying taxes. So buy up chump. It's the way of modern NFL business but don't think for a second you aren't paying one way or another.


So if I could by stock in my team that would make me a better fan in your eyes? Way to completely miss the point. And no, I doubt I'll or paying "one way or another", but go with that. Now that you guys have nothing left to give, go completely off topic and post another Super Bowl pic. It's a sure sign that your argument is beaten.
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by Jaymo:

But we both can be confident that the shoe wouldn't be on the other foot if the packlers signed a similarily skilled Viking player. Nope.


That would actually have to happen in the first place. Packers draft them and win championships with them, you overpay them on their way down. The stats sure are pretty though. Too bad it never amounts to anything.

That is the goal right? To win championships?


I know right! Remember when they drafted Favre, White, and the rest of the '96 team? No, of course you don't.
I couldn’t give two sh!ts about this, but let’s be accurate.

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
I'm not degrading anybody.

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
No clue who these other clowns are.

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
But that's just too much for you entitled dummies to swallow.



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Originally posted by Jaymo:
I'm not mocking anybody.

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packlers

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
But now that I'm a packler fan, and better than most other people on the planet simply because I cheer for them, I'll try to change my ways.

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packlers

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Originally posted by Jaymo:
As of today, I am no longer a Viking fan. I will pledge my allegiance to the packlers so I can be looked upon as one of the sane ones...... Roll Eyes

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packlers




X4, Not for Pussies.
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Originally posted by Floridarob:
A bottom feeder team with one of the worst managements in sports.


I think I would save that characterization for the Detroit Lions, Pittsburgh Pirates, L.A. Clippers, etc. Hate the Vikings all you want, but I bet a lot of teams would love to be able to claim even the moderate success they've had.
Again, you simp, you came here with your typical dreck of what a ruse Packer stock is with the standard aspersions on Packer fans and then you turn around claim you wish you could do the same.

I know tons of Vikings fans, many in my family. You, on the other hand, are a weakminded person, not fan, person who has to dwell in the truther scape about Packers organization and their fans due to the failures of your team. What's not completely pathetic about that?

Did you really show up here just to defend that you're "just as good a fan darn it!" as Packer fans or did you show up like a butthurt bitch looking for a fight on a Packer board. Don't worry, I already know you wouldn't say a peep in real life. I can smell your coward stink from here and yes, I am the guy you fear.

Go enjoy the beautiful city you live in (if you're not too terrified to leave Ham Lake), enjoy your team and all it's "victories" and quit being such a poster boy for Vagine insecurity.
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Originally posted by Jaymo:


I know right! Remember when they drafted Favre, White, and the rest of the '96 team? No, of course you don't.


And how's the Vagine FA strategy worked out vs. the Packers FA strategy? Do you want to compare drafting and FA moves of Holmgren and Wolf to the Vagines and what the end result was? And when were those players brought in? As young guys or in their prime to develop in what would be the last team to completely dominate before the Salary cap age? OH BOY! I DIDN'T MEAN TO BRING UP THE EMPTY CASE AGAIN.

Okay everyone! Remember, to not hurt Jaymo's feelings you can't bring up the fact that the team he roots for and is "just as good as you" and has never won ****. Also, stop pointing out that all these coup de grace his POS squad pulls off have lead to nothing.

So remember, in truther land facts = lost argument.
No, just silly brother in laws. CIA grandpa was all about baseball. Nephew doctor can't be bothered with such silly things. I have never asked my aunt and uncle about their sports leanings. I don't think they give a ****.

I do know my aunt, the nun, thinks Dick Cheney is evil. Not bad, evil. I laughed my ass off when I heard her say that. And you know my leanings being the foremost ditch digger in Packer fandom.
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Fabre, Longwell, and Sharper all had probowl years with the Vikings. Nothing wrong with those pickups at all. Hopefully Jennings follows suit.


Funny thing is, Jennings probably will make the pro bowl as a Viking & follow suit. He's the only receiver short of Rudolph in the red zone on the team. He'll get his numbers (provided Ponder doesn't mimic McNabb & throw a bunch of worm burners at Jennings feet).

Best thing is the Vikings have a bunch of individuals who don't (or won't) play as a team which is what's required to win a championship. Four World Championships in the last 46 years. 2 in the last 16 years & would've been three had it not been for the salary cap cheating Broncos. But that's a discussion for another time.
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Originally posted by Jaymo:
And no, I doubt I'll or paying "one way or another", but go with that.


Really? More like you hope you won't be paying. So if the lottery games don't raise the acquired amount of state money it won't come out of other programs like education, infrastructure, etc? It's just a "no worries" proposition?


In reality, I would hope the state has enough marketing sense to put the right games out there and pull tabs be WILD CRAZY fun in VFW and American Legions of the era (played many times myself). The lottery is always a reasonable bet but it sounds like a two year window. Gotta spend money to make money! I bet you were bummed when they scrapped the Arden Hills concept. Frowner
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Originally posted by Boris:
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Fabre, Longwell, and Sharper all had probowl years with the Vikings. Nothing wrong with those pickups at all. Hopefully Jennings follows suit.


Funny thing is, Jennings probably will make the pro bowl as a Viking & follow suit. He's the only receiver short of Rudolph in the red zone on the team. He'll get his numbers (provided Ponder doesn't mimic McNabb & throw a bunch of worm burners at Jennings feet).

Best thing is the Vikings have a bunch of individuals who don't (or won't) play as a team which is what's required to win a championship. Four World Championships in the last 46 years. 2 in the last 16 years & would've been three had it not been for the salary cap cheating Broncos. But that's a discussion for another time.


Cobb, Jones and Nelson will be crushed.
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Originally posted by Fandame:
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Originally posted by Jaymo:

You better talk to fandame...she certainly thinks that her "stock" holds some value.



No clue where you got this idea from. Did you read what I said? Nope, you must not have. Did I ever say stockholders have a say in the team decisions? Nope. Did I ever say I hold stock? Nope.
The dow jones is dropping again today. I hope Apple gets there act together. Anyone know where packer stock is trading at today?
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Originally posted by Randy Moss:
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Originally posted by Fandame:
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Originally posted by Jaymo:

You better talk to fandame...she certainly thinks that her "stock" holds some value.



No clue where you got this idea from. Did you read what I said? Nope, you must not have. Did I ever say stockholders have a say in the team decisions? Nope. Did I ever say I hold stock? Nope.
The dow jones is dropping again today. I hope Apple gets there act together. Anyone know where packer stock is trading at today?


The same place it will be 10 years from now when the new owner takes that pitiful franchise of Minnapolis to the new NFL site of Las Vegas.
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Originally posted by Randy Moss:
The dow jones is dropping again today. I hope Apple gets there act together. Anyone know where packer stock is trading at today?


The satisfaction index is high with standard minor fluctuations during FA period. Like all good long term stock, patience and careful planning always pays dividends.

Vagines = short sellers of the NFL.
BTW Jaymo, Chickenboy is your kindred spirit. Shoot him a PM. He lives in the TC area and was obviously born with all the passive aggressive self loathing traits of a your typical Purple Truther. You two are peas in a pod.

Ask him about his life coach.
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Originally posted by Randy Moss:
The dow jones is dropping again today. I hope Apple gets there act together. Anyone know where packer stock is trading at today?


No Packer stock is trading today. We draft and develop.
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by Randy Moss:
The dow jones is dropping again today. I hope Apple gets there act together. Anyone know where packer stock is trading at today?


The satisfaction index is high with standard minor fluctuations during FA period. Like all good long term stock, patience and careful planning always pays dividends.

Vagines = short sellers of the NFL.
. You are spot on Enrique. Patients does pay dividends. If you are patient sometimes you can sweep crumbs off ofthe floor.
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Originally posted by Randy Moss:
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Originally posted by Henry:
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Originally posted by Randy Moss:
The dow jones is dropping again today. I hope Apple gets there act together. Anyone know where packer stock is trading at today?


The satisfaction index is high with standard minor fluctuations during FA period. Like all good long term stock, patience and careful planning always pays dividends.

Vagines = short sellers of the NFL.
. You are spot on Enrique. Patients does pay dividends. If you are patient sometimes you can sweep crumbs off ofthe floor.


I wouldn't necessarily call gerg a crumb. But it's nice to see a queens fan finally start smelling the coffee.
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Originally posted by Henry:
Do you want to compare drafting and FA moves of Holmgren and Wolf to the Vagines and what the end result was? And when were those players brought in?


Well, why don't you make up your mind. Do the packlers simply draft and develop talent, unlike any other team, or not? Charles Woodson would like to know....


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Originally posted by Henry:
That would actually have to happen in the first place. Packers draft them and win championships with them, you overpay them on their way down. The stats sure are pretty though. Too bad it never amounts to anything.
caught a little rebroadcasting of GJ's interview with Rome during lunch today.
all this talk about not having enough opportunity in GB... Gerg, it's damn hard to grow your stats when you're sitting in the tub. guy's played in 11 games out of the last 22 and he's claiming a lack of opportunity?
granted, he could see the writing on the wall.

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