Jermichael Finley

Rong.

Agree.

....with pboi.

Finley and Bush take more hits on here than a big fat joint at a Grateful dead concert...

I totally disagree.

Completely disagree.

OK... so i'm wrong (and would be happy to be)... but where is the consistency in this guy?

Part of his problem is lack of durability. Knee surgery, concussions, missed preseason time, etc... Maybe his routes are not optimal? I just think Gronk and Graham's hand are made of glue - those guys consistently haul in the tough balls. Plain vanilla was not going to cut it against a team like SF.

Overrated, huge ego, a me first player who can't catch
Sort of important to do when you can't block
Pack should get rid of him

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Originally posted by kworst:
Overrated, huge ego, a me first player who can't catch
Sort of important to do when you can't block
Pack should get rid of him

Remember the Arizona playoff game? Finley dominated. That's why he is on the field. He had more targets than ANY receiver today, I think MM and Arod disagree with the haters...

ok - the arizona game was OVER 2 years ago, and a lot can change in that timeframe for any player - this is a 'what have you done for me lately' business.

where was he against pittsburgh again? the giants?

If Finley plays exactly how he did today for the rest of the season:

112 catches. 752 yards. 16 TD's.

Exactly.

faking the ankle/knee injury made me laugh

kworsts posts also make me laugh

with how many crucial drops?

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Originally posted by noiropus:
ok - the arizona game was OVER 2 years ago, and a lot can change in that timeframe for any player - this is a 'what have you done for me lately' business.

where was he against pittsburgh again? the giants?

Its funny because people always look at the Arizona game for his achievements..he hasnt done squat since... the guy is overrated.. that said,im giving him this year to redeem himself and be the player alot of people think he is

Finley is a punk.

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Originally posted by PDXPackFan:
he hasnt done squat since...

honestly asking, is this hyperbole?

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Originally posted by DeepChicago:
Finley is a punk.

I have a feeling this will be required a lot over the next 3 days.

ok bad choice of words, but he hasnt lived up to the hype

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Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
faking the ankle/knee injury made me laugh

kworsts posts also make me laugh

Faking? Did you see his ankle twist after it got stepped on? Give the guy a break will ya?

yes, he was faking it for the refs, milking it as much as he ever has. He was fine.

And he played a good game today.

Seems kind of biased when the projection for Finley omits the negative.

You know - like dropping the &*^%'ing football? A crucial 3rd and 3 GIMME?

The whole premise of this thread was to omit his positives and focus solely on his negatives.

Of course. Finley never does anything positive.

Let the crap flow & the doomsdayers ring their bell.

I'm certain the Packers will be 4-12 this year

At a certain point you are what you are. Finley is top ten, but inconsistent TE with questionable hands and a highly emotional disposition. The onus is on him to show elevate his game if he wants to be better.

He's far from a bad player but he sure as hell isn't a top 5 player at his position either. He was made a central part of the game plan today. He can't talk enough about getting on the same page and being a big part of the offense. Did some nice things at times, got too wound up at times, and dropped a gimmee. It's not unfair to call him a guy filled with false confidence.

Football games come down to a handful of plays. He's been on the wrong side of those handful of plays a number of times. Doesn't mean I want him off the team or that he can't make some plays but I sure as shhh don't trust him as a focal point of the offense . The next time he plays a consistent full game will be the first time in a long time.

Finley drives you crazy because you see at times the glipses of dominance, but then when they really need the play (i.e. the 3rd and short late) he doesn't execute. I don't know if it's concentration or what, but the dude is not a Top 5 TE in my book until he learns to make all the plays.

They are still a much better team with him than without him but the drops are just killers.

so the standard for the guy is, he is either a top 5 TE or a bum (not directed at you T in particular, but that has come up before).

The guy is a really good TE who made some good plays for us. The third down conversion was a catchable ball, but I don't know why that defines him for some of you.

And do we really think he hurt his ankle, then his knee, then was perfectly fine?

We can't run so they laugh at play action. And that hurts a TE because the LB only has to worry about pass coverage. We should be in hurry up all the time, throw screens, and have lots of motion.

The KC, Giants, and SF template has been established. Gash us inside and don't worry about our run. It's on MM to adjust.

one play I didn't like yesterday was when both Fin and AR correctly read a MLB blitz yet Fin didn't cut his route short like AR thought he was gonna and that's where AR was gonna go with the ball and then didn't have any other options. between the TE and QB that's got to be automatic. get yer head in the game Finley.

can't win games with a sorrowful run defense and a secondary that doesn't know who they're covering or when to react to their zone. watched Bush line up against Moss, back pedal with him just fine but he didn't even attempt to close when he should have and Bush had safety help. Moss caught the ball for a 14 yard completion and bush was still 5 yards off him.

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The KC, Giants, and SF template has been established.

and run a WR anywhere across the middle - no LB will cover them.

I said the same thing to my Son, TD. Finley's gotta read that blitz. He looked back then continued with his route.

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Originally posted by Tdog:

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The KC, Giants, and SF template has been established.

and run a WR anywhere across the middle - no LB will cover them.

Be nice if our wideouts went in motion once in a while, wouldn't it.

"All warfare is based on deception".
-Sun Tsu

Knee is probly still sore. Give him another year to get to 100%.

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If Finley plays exactly how he did today for the rest of the season:

112 catches. 752 yards. 16 TD's.

If Finley plays exactly how he did today for the rest of the season:

112 catches. 752 yards. 16 TD's.

48 drops

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Originally posted by phaedrus:
If Finley plays exactly how he did today for the rest of the season:

....

48 drops

Link to an official source crediting Finley with 3 drops yesterday?

Thanks in advance.

I agree that Finley has peaked. He's a good player, but his drops during crucial moments will keep him, just like James Jones, from being one of the elite guys at his position.

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Link to an official source crediting Finley with 3 drops yesterday?

I verified the drops by www.watchingthefriggengame.com

I didn't see three drops. One comes to mind which I felt was an obvious PI, so if you count that, I had two. That was just from memory.

Dropping an easy pass for a crucial 1st down counts as two drops in my edition of Earning Millions By NOT Doing What They Pay You For - For Dummies.