Ted Thompson does not draft players that drop passes.
I thought it was 2 or 3. If it's 2, of course I should have put down 32.
32 is a high number. One of them was a killer.
I am all for projecting Finley's stats - the good and the bad. The good is wonderful, the bad can sometimes be rather wretched.
I won't dismiss the good, but I sure will groan when I see the bad (which I did yesterday on that 3rd and 3) and I sure do hope the dropsies are reduced.
32 is a high number. One of them was a killer.
I am all for projecting Finley's stats - the good and the bad. The good is wonderful, the bad can sometimes be rather wretched.
I won't dismiss the good, but I sure will groan when I see the bad (which I did yesterday on that 3rd and 3) and I sure do hope the dropsies are reduced.
Maybe, just maybe, he's not as good as we think/hope. He's certainly not as good as he thinks he is. It's starting to look like his one great year may have been an aberration and this is who Finley is. So why don't we give Williams a better look? In TC everyone raved about his catching everything thrown his way. Perhaps he should get more snaps and targets. Or put Finley and Williams out there together and see what happens.
I feel pretty good about this team putting the best players on the field.
Except for Hawk, but that goes without saying.
Except for Hawk, but that goes without saying.
Top ten talent with a bottom ten head.
quote:Originally posted by El-Ka-Bong:
I didn't see three drops. One comes to mind which I felt was an obvious PI, so if you count that, I had two. That was just from memory.
Agree, there were two plays, one was clear PI that was not called.
Post game radio stated Finley had one drop, I don't know if they have the official Packer stats or not but they always seem pretty confident with their numbers when discussing the games.
I agree with Shoeless that the drop he had was a bad one so it may count for 2.
Who can defend his play so far?
Not much to defend
Finley is a coach killer.
At this rate, he is playing his last season in GB.
quote:Originally posted by scottgb:
Top ten talent with a bottom ten head.
Remind me again, who are we talking about, Finley, or Jay Cutler?
Start Crabtree in front of him.
Fine with DJ Williams getting more and more looks.
Coulda solved a lot of problems : pick Vernon Davis
Losing faith in 88.
quote:Originally posted by noiropus:
Who can defend his play so far?
Heck, I don't know that anybody wants to right now.
One play he whiffs on completion or drops it; the next he makes an oustanding snag in mid-air with perfect body control. I guess that's why it's so frustrating, knowing he has the talent to be a top-tier TE, but is too inconsistent, to put it as kindly as possible.
Tonight, in addition to the above, he had a horrible (non)block on a WR screen, IIRC. No matter the play, it couldn't have been a bigger whiff, and it promptly blew up the play, of course.
Given all this, I have no problem with Williams getting some reps in practice, and see if he's ready for a bigger opportunity. I'd be surprised to see Finley replaced as the starter, but stranger things have happened...
from somewhere on the 'net
"Randall Cobbâs pitch play in the first half worked so well because Jermichael Finley held the edge"
"Randall Cobbâs pitch play in the first half worked so well because Jermichael Finley held the edge"
Next time put the quote in italics, makes it more believable.
Damn, are you dum.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
from somewhere on the 'net
"Randall Cobbâs pitch play in the first half worked so well because Jermichael Finley held the edge"
It was a decent block, he just let his man run up field and sealed.. Bulaga and Sitton had the key blocks on that play IMO.
Who would you honestly rather date, a tease or a dead-f**k?
As weird as it sounds, with all the time he has missed, Finley is still growing into it.
Gates looked awesome the other night, even though he dropped a couple.
As weird as it sounds, with all the time he has missed, Finley is still growing into it.
Gates looked awesome the other night, even though he dropped a couple.
Good comment regarding the "tease"
However, jf teases due to the fact that he's a specimen. There are plenty of superb athletes that never achieve on the field. In contrast, Jason Whitten was never one, but he could sure get open, catch, AND block in his prime.
I hope tt and mm have a short leash with the guy - particularly since he's a hothead. The ultimate prize was won without him, and that's all any of us should want, regardless of any stats.
However, jf teases due to the fact that he's a specimen. There are plenty of superb athletes that never achieve on the field. In contrast, Jason Whitten was never one, but he could sure get open, catch, AND block in his prime.
I hope tt and mm have a short leash with the guy - particularly since he's a hothead. The ultimate prize was won without him, and that's all any of us should want, regardless of any stats.
Year of the fan support exodus.
<-- Early adopter.
<-- Early adopter.
I wonder what his yearly projections are now.
I don't think Finley had many touches. With that in mind, I would like to see the percentage of touches that are drops. It gives clarity to the picture.
Like if he had 3 touches and 1 drop, that is a 33% drop rate.
It's really a drag. Some time ago, I saw the great regular season game against the Steelers a couple years back. In that and the Cardinals playoff game, he was an unstoppable beast. THAT Finley? Hell, I would take him over Graham and Gronkowski.
I don't think Finley had many touches. With that in mind, I would like to see the percentage of touches that are drops. It gives clarity to the picture.
Like if he had 3 touches and 1 drop, that is a 33% drop rate.
It's really a drag. Some time ago, I saw the great regular season game against the Steelers a couple years back. In that and the Cardinals playoff game, he was an unstoppable beast. THAT Finley? Hell, I would take him over Graham and Gronkowski.
As I play amateur psychologist, judging from Finley's reactions after the drops this year he seems to be putting extreme pressure on himself.
Hopefully he can just settle down and relax and start being the playmaker we all thought he would be (remember offering him for LFitz with a serious face?).
I will say that I suspect he still draws plenty of attention that opens stuff up for other guys. I don't think any of the other three offer the same amount of attention (dare I say respect?) that Finley draws despite the drops.
Hopefully he can just settle down and relax and start being the playmaker we all thought he would be (remember offering him for LFitz with a serious face?).
I will say that I suspect he still draws plenty of attention that opens stuff up for other guys. I don't think any of the other three offer the same amount of attention (dare I say respect?) that Finley draws despite the drops.
If he keeps dropping the ball, the attention to him will subside!! Not a threat any more, let Crabby play
Finley is great to have on this team. One of a multitude of offensive weapons. Another threat the opposing D has to game plan for. And another potential game changer at any time.
But the offense isn't based around his play. And several other players, whether currently on the roster or players down the road, would be able to step in and fill the void if he departed.
He signed a very fair contract, and I'm glad he's on the team. But I've stopped dreaming he'll be an elite TE. If he can stay healthy and just be hang on to the balls that he should catch, I'd be happy. Otherwise, I'd be fine with DJ, Crabby, Taylor or Quarless get some reps.
But the offense isn't based around his play. And several other players, whether currently on the roster or players down the road, would be able to step in and fill the void if he departed.
He signed a very fair contract, and I'm glad he's on the team. But I've stopped dreaming he'll be an elite TE. If he can stay healthy and just be hang on to the balls that he should catch, I'd be happy. Otherwise, I'd be fine with DJ, Crabby, Taylor or Quarless get some reps.
quote:Originally posted by JJSD:
Damn, are you dum.
quote:Originally posted by Hauser: Not a threat any more, let Crabby play
I reckon if he were better, he would be.
Cut finley and Jones and sign Jennings
No reason to cut Jones and Finley. It's not the money in 2013 that would hinder a Jennings deal, it's the money in 2016 and 2017 that would prevent a deal. All depends on Jennings willing to take a hometown discount. TT will never pay a receiver over $10m a year, which is what Jennings will get on the open market. I could see TT offering $7m or $8m a year over 5 years. Hope Jennings will take that.
But at the end of the day, TT has to pay Rodgers, CMIII and Raji as top young players at their positions in the next 12 months. Then after that, TT has to look at Burnett and Bulaga, two more players that i think will be pro bowlers before their rookie deals are up. And this team would suffer much more if we lost one if those five vs Jennings. With Nelson on his way to becoming a legit #1 WR, Cobb proving to be in his way to a top slot WR, and TT's obvious eye for WR talent, i don't think it would be that crazy to let Jennings go. We'd also get at least a 3rd round compensatory pick, maybe even a fourth too.
But at the end of the day, TT has to pay Rodgers, CMIII and Raji as top young players at their positions in the next 12 months. Then after that, TT has to look at Burnett and Bulaga, two more players that i think will be pro bowlers before their rookie deals are up. And this team would suffer much more if we lost one if those five vs Jennings. With Nelson on his way to becoming a legit #1 WR, Cobb proving to be in his way to a top slot WR, and TT's obvious eye for WR talent, i don't think it would be that crazy to let Jennings go. We'd also get at least a 3rd round compensatory pick, maybe even a fourth too.
quote:Originally posted by chickenboy:
As I play amateur psychologist,
That's worked well for you in the past.
I'm ready for more DJ Williams.
Williams and Crabtree have been the two guys all through TC/Preseason that just seem to be playing at a higher level. More energy and playing with precision.
Thought it was amateur proctologist? 
He puts on the dish washing gloves and probes the cat. Everyone needs a hobby.
"Ah sir, why do you have your finger in my Shih Tzu's butt"?
"Ah sir, why do you have your finger in my Shih Tzu's butt"?
Isn't a Shih Tzu a dog?
It took a disturbing turn when he started practicing at the local dog park.
Does it really matter if it's a cat or a dog if someone's treating it like a ring pop! 
To that particular cat or dog.
quote:I'm ready for more DJ Williams.
Yes. DJ looks like he could have a pretty solid season.