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If he gets out, which team will sign him? You know someone will.
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Step 1 is to get reinstated. May take some time but if Vick is a starting QB, then Jolly should at least get a chance.
If he does get out early I hope he takes a little time to really clean himself up. He's 29 so the road back to the NFL is going to be tough. Got to get yourself set up for the rest of your life first.
If he does get out early I hope he takes a little time to really clean himself up. He's 29 so the road back to the NFL is going to be tough. Got to get yourself set up for the rest of your life first.
I'd put his chances of a comeback at zero point zero zero.
He just needs to get out, get into rehab, learn from all this and try to live an ordinary life from here on out. NFL football for him is over.
quote:NFL football for him is over.
We have a winner
I didn't remember reading his sister was murdered
Feb 17, 2012 article
Plus he had that great game vs. the Bears while on the stuff. That's just crazy! No wonder he wanted to keep doing it.
Feb 17, 2012 article
Plus he had that great game vs. the Bears while on the stuff. That's just crazy! No wonder he wanted to keep doing it.
Is 6 months enough to sufficiently shock him?
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
Is 6 months enough to sufficiently shock him?
I think I'd apply after about 6 minutes.
Same here, but I'm guessing neither you or I have lived a similar life as JJ.
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Talked about Johnny Jolly release from prison on @OTLonESPN. Great talent, worried about him every yr when he left GB for Houston.
Must have been many signs.
Talked about Johnny Jolly release from prison on @OTLonESPN. Great talent, worried about him every yr when he left GB for Houston.
Must have been many signs.
Maybe so'oto will give him his number back
Not sure if he'll ever be in the NFL again.
He's an addict, at least that is why he was granted a release.
Being an addict, and in a profession where you routinely take pain-altering drugs, injections, etc because of the nature of the beast, I am thinking his days as a pro football player are over.
Johnny's best bet is to focus on staying sober...if that means finding a job, or toting a Bible with him 24/7 and quoting from it at will...whatever works he needs to find that. If he doesn't he will fall off the wagon, and end up back in the clink.
He's an addict, at least that is why he was granted a release.
Being an addict, and in a profession where you routinely take pain-altering drugs, injections, etc because of the nature of the beast, I am thinking his days as a pro football player are over.
Johnny's best bet is to focus on staying sober...if that means finding a job, or toting a Bible with him 24/7 and quoting from it at will...whatever works he needs to find that. If he doesn't he will fall off the wagon, and end up back in the clink.
quote:Originally posted by edgefour:
I think I'd apply after about 6 minutes.
Or after the first shower. Whichever came first.
Jolly's 1st priority should be moving out of Houston and never going back..
quote:Originally posted by packerboi:
Jolly's 1st priority should be moving out of Houston and never going back..
I wonder if he even has any money.. When's the last time he got a paycheck from the NFL? What are the chances he invested some of his earnings? Couple that with attorney fee's for his 3 cases, I'm guessing he is broke and will be forced to move in with a relative or friend in Houston..
Also, would his probation allow him to move out of the county?
Part of his probabtion is 200 hours of comunity service. How about 200 hours of treatment instead? The guy can't take care of himself and he's being asked to help others.
quote:Originally posted by ChilliJon:
Part of his probabtion is 200 hours of comunity service. How about 200 hours of treatment instead? The guy can't take care of himself and he's being asked to help others.
No schi*. If you can't stay clean or are clean for now but know full well you don't have the strength or skills learned to stay away from purple drank I have no idea how 200 hours of community service is helping anyone.
It wouldn't surprise me if Rodgers and/or other Packers try and get TT to at least look at him. Granted I hardly believe Jolly is on Goodell's to-do list but Rodgers does have some influence as a face of the NFL. And he was a guy who believed Jolly belonged on the Packers and around his team mates before being sentenced. Wonder if he's wandered at all from that stance. Especially knowing he's out of jail.
The Packers may still have the rights to Jolly. He did sign a 1 year contract before everything fell apart on him. They are not paying him anything because he is still on suspension.
Community service doesn't necessarily mean putting the guy in front of others. Community service can involve picking up trash along the side of highways. I'm guessing that'd be more in line with what Jolly would be doing.
I think that was the correct move by the judge. Six months in the pen is enough. As long as the guy has surrendered to his addiction. People that are addicted to a substance need treatment. Prison is not always the best option. In certain cases people need time in the pen to figure out how to pull there heads outof there asses. This could be his last chance. It's up to him
quote:Originally posted by Randy Moss:
I think that was the correct move by the judge. Six months in the pen is enough.
He's a black man in Texas. 50 years ago he'd be hanging from a tree.
He caught a serious break here. Hope he takes advantage of it.
I wish the judge would sentence him to 3 years in GB stuffing the run.
And I request a toilet made of solid gold, but I won't get it.
I shouldn't admit this, but...
Yours truly had occassion several years ago to spend the better part of 20 hours or so in the Clayton County (GA) hoosegow. Lots of very bad people in there, and it was an experience I'd rather not have had, but it wasn't traumatic by any means, and no rape attempt occurred.
Judging by the repeated "What are you doing in here questions, I think it's obvious to the deputies who work in there who "belongs" and who doesn't, and once they found out I had nitro, they were very respectful (didn't want me having a heart attack on their shift!), so I wasn't subjected to anything harsher than their regiment.
My point is that I imagine Jolly being in a similar position; in a rough of jail as I can imagine Houston to be, he may have been the proverbial sore thumb, and could have been a 'target' for some thug. Whatever the case, good on all involved to get him out of there.
He also seems to be opening up more, and talking about his addiction and experience. I think that's an excellent start. I am worried about him not being able to break ties from his family in the area, and I'm sure all of the immediate family depended on him, and it may even be moreso now with the death of his sister. He's got a long row to hoe; I pray he's up to the test.
Yours truly had occassion several years ago to spend the better part of 20 hours or so in the Clayton County (GA) hoosegow. Lots of very bad people in there, and it was an experience I'd rather not have had, but it wasn't traumatic by any means, and no rape attempt occurred.
Judging by the repeated "What are you doing in here questions, I think it's obvious to the deputies who work in there who "belongs" and who doesn't, and once they found out I had nitro, they were very respectful (didn't want me having a heart attack on their shift!), so I wasn't subjected to anything harsher than their regiment.
My point is that I imagine Jolly being in a similar position; in a rough of jail as I can imagine Houston to be, he may have been the proverbial sore thumb, and could have been a 'target' for some thug. Whatever the case, good on all involved to get him out of there.
He also seems to be opening up more, and talking about his addiction and experience. I think that's an excellent start. I am worried about him not being able to break ties from his family in the area, and I'm sure all of the immediate family depended on him, and it may even be moreso now with the death of his sister. He's got a long row to hoe; I pray he's up to the test.
quote:Originally posted by Goalline:
I wish the judge would sentence him to 3 years in GB stuffing the run.
Oh I see what you did there. Gebins!
Hopefully times are changing a little. Locking someone up and throwing the keys away for an addiction is inhumane in my opinion. People with substance abuse need to be slapped in the face hard until they get it. If they do get it they deserve a chance to get help and become a useful human being again. I have yet to run into a Saint.quote:Originally posted by PackFoo:quote:Originally posted by Randy Moss:
I think that was the correct move by the judge. Six months in the pen is enough.
He's a black man in Texas. 50 years ago he'd be hanging from a tree.
He caught a serious break here. Hope he takes advantage of it.
quote:Originally posted by derps:
And I request a toilet made of solid gold, but I won't get it.
Sorry to hear that, Derps. You've clearly earned that golden toilet.
Jolly will be right back in prison before you know it.
what if prison doesn't want him back ?
I figured the early release was a nod to the overcrowding and over-budget prisons
No sense in Joe Public being on the hook for his room and board when he clearly knows how to make money on his own
I figured the early release was a nod to the overcrowding and over-budget prisons
No sense in Joe Public being on the hook for his room and board when he clearly knows how to make money on his own
quote:Originally posted by JJSD:quote:Originally posted by edgefour:
I think I'd apply after about 6 minutes.
Or after the first shower. Whichever came first.
That's the point. I want out of there before anyone gets a chance to cum.
Satori is right about the over-crowding, and that very well could have factored into the Judges decision to grant this release.
I still don't understand the severity of his suspension, at least in comparison to other repeat offenders and those who have committed crimes with worse ramifications. Pacman Jones was a habitual offender, he got a year I believe and it seemed like he had no problem being reinstated. Donte Stallworth drives drunk, ends up killing a woman...does time and gets back on the field.
Is the argument that Jolly had intent to distribute? Is this the reason Goodell brought the hammer down on Jolly?
Regardless of whether it would be good for him or not...in terms of health, sobriety, emotional, etc- I believe at 29 yrs old, Goodell needs to take a long look at this young man's window to play again. Of course Jolly should prove he is willing to do what it takes, if it's stay clean for a period of time or whatever...but I think if he does what is required, he should be given the opportunity like Pacman and Stallworth were given at the very least.
Is the argument that Jolly had intent to distribute? Is this the reason Goodell brought the hammer down on Jolly?
Regardless of whether it would be good for him or not...in terms of health, sobriety, emotional, etc- I believe at 29 yrs old, Goodell needs to take a long look at this young man's window to play again. Of course Jolly should prove he is willing to do what it takes, if it's stay clean for a period of time or whatever...but I think if he does what is required, he should be given the opportunity like Pacman and Stallworth were given at the very least.
quote:Originally posted by Satori:
what if prison doesn't want him back ?
Well it is Texas. They could always send him to the chair.
quote:Originally posted by Hungry5:
Good luck to him.
This. No ill will towards the guy. He says he's 8 months sober. That's his most important goal always.
It'll be interesting to see whether GB gives him a chance...assuming Goodell let's him back.