Yeah....MORE HERE

 

I was going to put this in the Patriot Way thread

@gourmetspud:

BILL: Why, Tommy?
TOM: Sorry, coach. I let you down.
BILL: No, I mean why didn't you involve me? This is the thing! The thing that I do!

Aaron Hernandez did it. No way any other Pats players would do that. That franchise is beyond reproach.

Text messages suggest Tom Brady had knowledge of deflating

Posted by Darin Gantt on May 6, 2015, 2:32 PM EDT

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Of all the elements of the Ted Wells report which cast Patriots quarterback Tom Brady in a poor light, a series of text message exchanges between the pair of guys who got game balls where they needed to be and when are near the top of the list.

The messages, not all of which are able to be reprinted here on a family website, give a pretty strong suggestion that not only was Brady in on the deflation, but that he was signing autographs in exchange for special treatment.

 

The messages between Jim McNally [the officials locker room attendant] and John Jastremski [a Patriots equipment assistant] show a level of detail and planning that indicates this wasn’t a random, or one-time occurrence.

 

The first exchange was after an Oct. 17, 2014 game against the Jets when Brady complained about the pressure of the balls.

 

Jastremski wrote “Tom sucks. im going make that next ball a f—in balloon.”

McNally replied: “Talked to him last night. He actually brought you up and said you must have a lot of stress trying to get them done…”

 

McNally, apparently not a fan of Brady’s (or at least his level of attention of air pressure) made several references to pumping the balls up to “watermleon” or “rugby” size, since Brady preferred softer ones for better control.

 

Prior to the next game, McNally wrote: “The only thing deflating sun..is his passing rating.”

 

There was then a discussion of McNally receiving free shoes and gear, and prior to the Jan. 10 game against the Ravens, the two of them were in the equipment room with Brady when McNally “received two footballs autographed by Brady and also had Brady autograph a game-worn Patriots jersey that McNally previously had obtained.”

 

McNally later referred to himself as “the deflator,” and chided Jastremski by saying “im not going to espn……..yet.”..

 

Those exchanges make it hard to imagine Brady had no knowledge of what’s going on, which he’ll need to answer for later.

[equipment guy] Jastremski wrote “Tom sucks. im going make that next ball a f—in balloon.”

@adbrandt: Team owners/executives watching NFL discipline with known Goodell/Kraft relationship. Feeds ingrained paranoia about favoritism.

Favoritism? What favoritism?

 

Entire PDF HERE

 

 Texting starts on page 75

 

10/24/2014 16:47:53 EDT
John Jastremski (508) 958-xxxx
Bird (603) 321-xxxx
I have a big needle for u this week

10/24/2014 17:00:59 EDT
Bird (603) 321-xxxx
John Jastremski (508) 958-xxxx
Better be surrounded by cash and newkicks....or its a rugby sunday

10/24/2014 17:13:40 EDT
Bird (603) 321-xxxx
John Jastremski (508) 958-xxxx
**** tom

10/24/2014 17:15:52 EDT
John Jastremski (508) 958-xxxx
Bird (603) 321-xxxx
Maybe u will have some nice size 11s in ur locker

10/24/2014 17:31:07 EDT
Bird (603) 321-xxxx
John Jastremski (508) 958-xxxx
Tom must really be working your balls hard this week

If enough of the NFL fan base becomes convinced that the fix is in with the game, it will be the ultimate in killing the golden goose.

 

And Roger and these f-in billionaires are arrogant enough, pompous enough, and ignorant enough to watch it happen then stand there wondering WTF just happened.

 

With the game getting increasingly paranoid over lawsuits with injuries, throw in an acceptance of cheating from a "premiere" franchise and this will be the kiss of death of the NFL.

I just want to know what HAVEN'T the Pats been caught doing that they're still getting away with? (If anything)

 

I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt but C'MON....how much "tarnish" is going to show up on those trophies?

I want to know if the league ever did umpologize to Kraft

I know I may be on an island here, but I could care less about this. I think all the teams cheat in their own way. Patriots got caught. Suspend Brady or whatever makes you firm. They won the SB and probably had diffeurent advantages than other teams had.This isn't Daniel Almante helping NY win the Little League WS when he was 22 years old. I gest, but it's over and done with. Beat the effin Patriots. Eff their deflated testicles. That's not why they won.

It was the refs that ****ed the Seahawks.

The Packers did beat the effin Patriots last year.

I'm a Vikings fan first.

  So there's a degree of caring that is less than you actually care?

 

Or......you couldn't care less?

 

Sorry. Pet peeve,.

At least you didn't abuse any apostrophes in your reply. 

Dude comes out as a Viking fan and you ding him for grammar?

 

Jesus Kiel, get your priorities straight!

I'm gonna use "Jesus Kiel"

 

Has a ring to it.

I for one am shocked by this relevation

The Pats cheating?  Alert the media

 

Pretty much.

 

Speaking of getting beaten... http://www.espnfc.us/uefa-cham...munich-pep-guardiola

Dude is magic.

Next thing you know there will be a report on the prevalent use of PEDs in the league. Talk about a revalation.

My favorite athlete. Arod is #2. That second goal was audacious. Everyone else just blasts that ball as hard as possible. Not that little genius.

Pat fans seem to be embracing the cheaters badge and wear it with honor. "So effing what if we cheated. Super Bowl win bitches!!!!" is the rallying cry. It's the corner they've been backed into. 

 

Would GB fans be good with another SB or two if it was proven they skirted a few rules? I'd like to say I wouldn't but I don't know. It would suck to have to defend something like that (and lose) in 10 years, 20 years. 

 

Brady is the big loser here. He's never shedding those texts. And what kind of dumbass leaves a trail like that? 

I think this movie quote pretty much sums up the Patriots:

 

"You always think you can beat the game straight up.  That's not me.  I told you, I'm always gonna look for that edge.  Always."  

They used software to restore deleted text msgs.  Friggin hilarious!

The NCAA makes wins and titles just disappear, maybe the NFL will too now. Nobody won the  Super Bowl during the 2014 season. The Pats had their title taken away for cheating for umpteenth time.   That and suspend Brady for the 1st 6 games of the 2015 season and take away their 1st round draft choice in 2016.  Make it hurt Roger.  This is worse than what some players are suspended for. 

        The game ended after 75 minutes, didn't it? 

I didn't expect Bayern to get past the semis with Robben, Ribéry, and Alaba all out, but I didn't expect the game to go like that. 

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I'm gonna use "Jesus Kiel"

Pronounced "hay-ZOOS", like your landscaper, no doubt.

The act itself isn't the issue;

Its the fact that they repeatedly violate the Integrity of the game -  and with total impunity.

 

Vegas is not amused either.

Robert Kraft may be able to bamboozle Roger, but the leg-breakers don't give a ****

 Brady has a racehorse too

 

 

Speaking of horses. Tommy posted this on Twitter the day after Indy earned a trip to the AFC Championship. 

 

These are the kinds of things cheating ****s like Brady do. 

 

I'm not sure a year suspension is enough given how he orchestrated everything. But that's the starting point IMO. 

Seahawks....You want to crown their ass, then crown their ass.

The people that are involved in this investigation have the kind of pull it takes to look into the NSA database.  None of it will be anywhere in the report, but there's a likelihood they have a full picture of what happened from all sides and used it to shape their investigation.  .    

I don't think it's really any kind of competitive advantage. It's not like it came down to 1 final perfectly thrown ball, it was a blowout.

The Pats deserve punishment because they keep getting caught doing stupid things that provide them with a minimal amount of advantage. I'm sure every team bends the rules like this, but somehow one of the smartest, most consistent organizations in the league keeps getting caught. I don't think it's because they necessarily have a target on their backs either, I think they're just too arrogant to cover their tracks. For that alone they deserve to be punished. Give Brady a 2 game suspension, they forfeit a 4th round pick, and they donate to some charity. It's a non-issue IMO, but they deserve being punished for being so sloppy.

If nothing else they should bring the hammer down because we all know that New England pushes the envelope and it's more about intent than the actual infraction.
Isn't that the same rationale they used to penalize the Saints with Bounty Gate?