Since you brought up the Vikings, it reminds me that the Patrious could raise the funds to pay the fine through the use of electronic pull-tabs.
#Patriots "Free Brady" guys led out by police in front of#NFL offices
#Patriots fans taken to Central Booking in New York City. They will be kept overnight for their stunt in#NFL lobby.
Regardless of reason behind stunt, it's not going to be fun to spend the night in NYC central booking while wearing a Brady jersey.
The face paint is a nice touch. These guys were all in.
At this point there is no way Goodell strolls out to the 50 yard line at Gillette Stadium on opening night Thursday in front of 70,000 Patriot fans other than like this:
Originally Posted by Grave Digger:
Wiping your ass with a bank statement has to be really uncomfortable and it's a good way to get a paper cut.
Not if it is paperless.
Originally Posted by cuqui:
Regardless of reason behind stunt, it's not going to be fun to spend the night in NYC central booking while wearing a Brady jersey.
Annnnnnnnnnnnd karma's a bitch.
Originally Posted by RushRunner:
Rogers is uber-competitive, I suspect he's found unique ways to interpret the rules. ;-)
Are you speaking about Will?
Not photoshopped.
Allegedly by fans but I'm thinking Woody.
All this whole ordeal and thread makes me think... (despite some clever replies)
Fortunately we have unlimited posts & bandwidth. It's a beautiful thing.
Originally Posted by Boris:
Fortunately we have unlimited posts & bandwidth. It's a beautiful thing.
But... but... butt....
That kills the silent killers!!!
*though I knew this fact long ago... work with me boss!*
Help me un-see that.
I think more than a couple of owners whispered in Rog's ear that, "If you want your contract renewed next time it comes up, you better be tough on the Pats on this one!" Siding with Kraft all the time won't let him keep his job, but this punishment just may.
No whispering. **** Goodell. He's a toy. This is all about a majority course correction of Kraft and his soldiers trying to corner the market on shared revenue.
And Kraft had better tuck tail and shut his hole. I think he's smart enough to get that. Even with a soft PR fight.
The NFL needs a commissioner with cement balls now. That's the only thing that's saving this league.
Originally Posted by Herschel:
Originally Posted by packaddict:
Can they trade back into the 1st round?
That would be dumb. Trading from #63 to #31- would be A: ridiculously expensive, which BB has shown he won't do, and B: would lose even more value as the pick they trade for would them be the one forfeited and put them at #31 anyway.
Yeah, not gonna happen. It's kind of funny though that the highest pick he could trade up to without a further hit would be the original #32.
So you are predicting the Patriots will win the SB in back to back years? 
**** the Patriots. **** Patriot fans **** Goodell
Kraft is lucky I'm not the commish.....the Pats would've lost 2 years of draft picks, instead of 2 draft picks.
I demand an apology, think I'll get one?
http://m.packers.com/news/arti...06-ad7a-b89de2f4f964
Dark balls? But, I thought Brady liked his balls smaller.
Dark balls? But, I thought Brady liked his balls smaller.
Kraft may sue the NFL, I'm not sure on what grounds, but this is getting comical.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti...paign=cnn-sports-bin
Andrew Brandt offers his opinions on the penalties - and why the league hammered the Pats:
serial cheaters
lying
refusing to cooperate
current environment post- Ray Rice
http://mmqb.si.com/2015/05/13/...kraft-roger-goodell/
Originally Posted by PackerRuss:
Kraft may sue the NFL, I'm not sure on what grounds, but this is getting comical.
http://bleacherreport.com/arti...paign=cnn-sports-bin
On the grounds that, 'Nobody treats Bob Kraft like that! Nobody!'.
Kraft:....& after all I've done for you
Just saw that Kraft is indeed lawyering up...
Who gives a ****.....it'll be years before anything could get done.
If Kraft didn't like it. He can always sell his team
If Kraft didn't like it. He can always sell his team
I know we live in a litigious society, but is anyone getting sick of all of this lawyering up in the NFL. It really has taken alot of enjoyment out of the game, from the concussion lawsuit to PED's, to Star Caps, to Deflate Gate, to Bounty Gate, its ridiculous.
Lawyer's gotta feed his family, how's he do that if Kraft doesn't sue?
Plus, they're job creators, a couple of paralegals, research assistants and an admin. 'Murica!
the excuses coming out of beantown today are laughable. fighting this is in the media is not the way to win but I'm sure finding comedy in their efforts to do just that. keep it up - the tarnish is really taking hold!
Patriots rebuttal to the Wells report.
They contend the ball boy referred to himself as the deflator because he was overweight.
"They never asked Mr. Jastremski about it in his interview. Had they done so, they would have learned from either gentleman one of the ways they used the deflation/deflator term. Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up — he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. “Deflate” was a term they used to refer to losing weight"
The Patriots are officially a complete ****ing embarrassment of an organization.
If you can't do the time, don't do the crime over, and over, and over again.
I'd expect that kind of story 'off the cuff' from a busted eight year old, not from a billionaire's legal team.
Originally Posted by PackerRuss:
I know we live in a litigious society, but is anyone getting sick of all of this lawyering up in the NFL.
Its no longer just a game, its a business.
And with billions at stake and Corporate America involved... there will be lawyers.
The outcome of the lawyering is irrelevant, the damage is done and the pats will wear their taint forever. The serial cheating will always be a part of their legacy no matter how many holes they poke in this particular report.
A Brady acquittal will be viewed the same as the OJ acquittal - everybody knows he did it.
Even the great Jackie Chiles can't make that go away...
Agree on the litigation getting ridiculous. Outside of the Donald Sterling vs. the NBA lawsuit (that ended up being short lived), and the MLB/Steroids lawsuits (bound to happen due to the steroid era), has any other league been taken to court like the NFL has? Players (Starcaps, Sherman, Bountygate, AP, Ray Rice, now possibly Brady), the fans (Super Bowl XLV in Dallas), and now possibly owners if Kraft sues. No other league operates at such a dysfunctional level between players, fans, owners, and the league.
Yes the NFL is still as popular as ever but with the league becoming a circus, does that change? IMO, not for a long long time. But over the next decade, if the NFL doesn't get it's act together and the NBA makes a few necessary changes to their league, I could definitely see it taking over as the most popular sport. Now it likely won't happen b/c of the NFL's inherent advantage (16 games = any given Sunday) but if we witness 10 more years of owners, players and the league fighting each other and likely very contentious CBA negotiation as early as 2017, it's not out of the question. That, and Adam Silver is starting to look like the best commissioner in the last 30 years of sports.
EDIT: I thought I read somewhere that the players could opt out of the CBA in 2017, but can't find that anywhere. Sounds like it might be 2020. Talk about an awful deal for the players.....
Originally Posted by CUPackFan:
No other league operates at such a dysfunctional level between players, fans, owners, and the league.
that's a very good point...
* add in the Concussion settlement/denial
* lawsuits from former players on their poor medical treatment and not paying them for using their likeness to sell memorabilia and video games
* The blackout rules that Congress is all bent out of shape about
* legalized gambling issues in New Jersey
* blowback from the military paying NFL for ad time
* taxpayer money for stadiums
* Obscene NFL profits from breast cancer awareness program
Its really quite an extensive list
Then there is this. The pattern of rules breaking grows. Lot of stuff out there bubbling to the surface, does Kraft want to go down this path.
http://profootballtalk.nbcspor...-doctored-footballs/
quote:Feeley said on 97.5 The Fanatic that when he was playing for the Dolphins in 2004, he saw Patriots quarterback Tom Brady using old, broken-in balls at a time when NFL rules said that teams had to use new balls provided by the league.
“Prior to Tommy and Peyton Manning going to the league and saying, ‘Let us doctor our balls’ we used to all play with the same balls,” Feeley said. “Somehow this beat-up ball from the ball boy was getting thrown in on offense for New England, yet when we were on offense this orange brand new ball was getting thrown in.”
Feeley says Brady was getting an advantage, and Feeley had a problem with it.
Remember the scene in a Few Good Men where Kaffee has Jessep on the stand and asks him "I'm wondering why Santiago wasn't packed... I'll tell you what. We'll get back to that one in a minute"
I picture a court room in New England about 16 months from now with Kraft on the stand:
Lawyer - "You went to great lengths to explain what the ballboys knew and didn't know. That they were innocent. That "deflator" meant losing weight. You published a 50,000 word rebuttal to portray these two guys as innocent of any wrong doing"
Kraft - "That's correct"
Krafts attorney - "Please the court, is there a question anywhere in our future?..."
Lawyer - "I'm wondering why you fired both ballboys a week before the 50,000 word rebuttal was posted... I'll tell you what. We'll get back to that one in a minute."
"Mr. Jastremski would sometimes work out and bulk up — he is a slender guy and his goal was to get to 200 pounds. Mr. McNally is a big fellow and had the opposite goal: to lose weight. “Deflate” was a term they used to refer to losing weight."
Well, this is another fine mess you've gotten us into.
That's awesome CJ, I hope it goes down like that.
