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Having served as a Board Member for the Boys and Girls Clubs in one of the largest counties in the U.S. and on a public school foundation board whose purpose is to raise funds to plug the shortages left by inadequate government funding, I too am a huge advocate of "teachers."

Teachers today are charged with fulfilling ever-expanding and often conflicting societal expectations, especially since so many parents (or increasingly just the one parent) abdicate their responsibilities vis-a-vis their children. 

Teaching should be a cherished and honored profession.

That said, having repeatedly witnessed the unproductive, uncaring, ill-tempered, and, in some cases, outright criminal conduct of a small minority of teachers defended, rationalized, equivocated, and ultimately excused due to the extraordinary powers wielded by unions representing public school teachers in the State of California, I confess to having lost significant respect for the teaching profession. 

I refer those doubting the truth of the statement above to the following article from the San Jose Mercury News and editorial from the Los Angeles Times, two newspapers known for their solidly "progressive" takes on the issues of the day:

https://www.mercurynews.com/20...fornia-can-be-tough/

https://www.latimes.com/opinio...-20170527-story.html

PS YA you are my favorite poster on this board and I have no doubt you are one of the best teachers in Kern County.

phaedrus posted:

Alleged:
https://www.washingtonpost.com...m_term=.7bc862355fae

Graduation Examination Questions
of Saline County, Kansas

April 13, 1895

J.W. Armstrong, County Superintendent.

Examinations at Salina, New Cambria, Gypsum City, Assaria, Falun, Bavaria, and District No. 74 (in Glendale Twp.)

Reading and Penmanship. – The Examination will be oral, and the Penmanship of Applicants will be graded from the manuscripts.

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GRAMMAR
(Time, one hour)
1. Give nine rules for the use of Capital Letters.
2. Name the Parts of Speech and define those that have no modifications.
3. Define Verse, Stanza and Paragraph.
4. What are the Principal Parts of a verb? Give Principal Parts of do, lie, lay and run.
5. Define Case. Illustrate each case.
6. What is Punctuation? Give rules for principal marks of Punctuation.
7-10 Write a composition of about 150 words and show therein that you understand the practical use of the rules of grammar.

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ARITHMETIC
(Time, 1 ž hour)
1. Name and define the Fundamental Rules of Arithmetic.
2. A wagon box is 2 ft. deep, 10 feet long, and 3 ft. wide. How many bushels of wheat will it hold?
3. If a load of wheat weights 3942 lbs., what is it worth at 50 cts. Per bu., deducting 1050 lbs for tare?
4. District No. 33 has a valuation of $35,000. What is the necessary levy to carry on a school seven months at $50 per month, and have $104 for incidentals?
5. Find cost of 6720 lbs. coal at $6.00 per ton.
6. Find the interest of $512.60 for 8 months and 18 days at 7 per cent.
7. What is the cost of 40 boards 12 inches wide and 16 ft. long at $20 per m?
8. Find bank discount on $300 for 90 days (no grace) at 10 per cent.
9. What is the cost of a square farm at $15 per acre, the distance around which is 640 rods?
10. Write a Bank Check, a Promissory Note, and a Receipt.

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U.S. HISTORY
(Time, 45 minutes)
1. Give the epochs into which U.S. History is divided.
2. Give an account of the discovery of America by Columbus.
3. Relate the causes and results of the Revolutionary War.
4. Show the territorial growth of the United States.
5. Tell what you can of the history of Kansas.
6. Describe three of the most prominent battles of the Rebellion.
7. Who were the following: Morse, Whtney, Fulton, Bell, Lincoln, Penn, and Howe?
8. Name events connected with the following dates: 1607, 1620, 1800, 1849, and 1865.

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ORTHOGRAPHY
(Time, one hour)
1. What is meant by the following: Alphabet, phonetic orthogaphy, etymology, syllabication?
2. What are elementary sounds? How classified?
3. What are the following, and give examples of each: Trigraph, subvocals, diphthong, cognate letters, linguals?
4. Give four substitutes for caret ÃĢuÃĪ.
5. Give two rules for spelling words with final ÃĢeÃĪ. Name two exceptions under each rule.
6. Give two uses of silent letters in spelling. Illustrate each.
7. Define the following prefixes and use in connection with a word: Bi, dis, mis, pre, semi, post, non, inter, mono, super.
8. Mark diacritically and divide into syllables the following, and name the sign that indicates the sound: Card, ball, mercy, sir, odd, cell, rise, blood, fare, last.
9. Use the following correctly in sentences: Cite, site, sight, fane, fain, feign, vane, vain, vein, raze, raise, rays.
10. Write 10 words frequently mispronounced and indicate pronunciation by use of diacritical marks and by syllabication.

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GEOGRAPHY
(Time, one hour)
1. What is climate? Upon what does climate depend?
2. How do you account for the extremes of climate in Kansas?
3. Of what use are rivers? Of what use is the ocean?
4. Describe the mountains of N.A.
5. Name and describe the following: Monrovia, Odessa, Denver, Manitoba, Hecla, Yukon, St. Helena, Juan Fernandez, Aspinwall, and Orinoco.
6. Name and locate the principal trade centers of the U.S.
7. Name all the republics of Europe and give capital of each.
8. Why is the Atlantic Coast colder than the Pacific in the same latitude?
9. Describe the process by which the water of the ocean returns to the sources of rivers.
10. Describe the movements of the earth. Give inclination of the earth.

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PHYSIOLOGY
(Time, 45 minutes)
1. Where are the saliva, gastric juice, and bile secreted? What is the use of each in digestion?
2. How does nutrition reach the circulation?
3. What is the function of the liver? Of the kidneys?
4. How would you stop the flow of blood from an artery in the case of laceration?
5. Give some general directions that you think would be beneficial to preserve the human body in a state of health.

Yeah, but I bet none of those little shits had a clue how to post a shit-take on Twitter. Losers!

YATittle posted:

From the link: 

What nearly all these pundits fail to grasp is “I can’t answer these questions” is not the same thing as “These questions demonstrate that students in earlier days were better educated than today’s students.” Just about any test looks difficult to those who haven’t recently been steeped in the material it covers.

You are just mad, because you couldn't figure out what a bushel is. 

Steveluke thanks for the kind words. I do recognize the foolishness inherent in what you posted. A teacher at a neighboring school made porn videos with her husband and she's only suspended and lawyers are debating whether it's fair for the school district to fire her for something she does in her off time. Nuts. Teachers are role models, should be held to a higher standard. JMHO.

Thanks for the positives. School boards? Usually run by superintendents who have short shelf lives. Many board members ran on "hot issue" (books they wanted banned, bathroom issue, teaching sex ed, etc.) that got them all hot and bothered. All they care about is that issue and making sure their viewpoint is inflicted on everyone rather than what's really good for all. Few are worth their weight in feathers.

ChilliJon posted:

Coulter thinks Colin is a border savant. 

The amount of stupid in high places in this country is concerning. 

Never been more important to teach our kids to read, everything, gather facts, investigate, ask questions, question answers, then question facts. 

Education will always win. Education is absolutely everything. 

Ya, but ...

Never underestimate the ability of educated people to justify their biased preconceptions.

El-Ka-Bong posted:

Have to agree with MC here, education will be a joke until all children agree with me, it's really the only barometer worth its salt anymore.  Bonus points if we can hate things we don't understand but are popular for like thinkers like me to hate.

Our benevolent billionaires will take care of it though.  

Authentic x4 gibberish.

Gabby Johnson couldn't have said it better.

El-Ka-Bong posted:

Educated in Wisconsin, had to google the definition of 3 of those words.

And don't get me started on science.  God created the earth with dinosaur bones already in it, but he tricked the loser scientists by making them think the dinosaurs died of vaccines.  

Turn, turn, turns out that only the birds were antivaxers.

Sad!

antooo posted:
ChilliJon posted:

Coulter thinks Colin is a border savant. 

The amount of stupid in high places in this country is concerning. 

Never been more important to teach our kids to read, everything, gather facts, investigate, ask questions, question answers, then question facts. 

Education will always win. Education is absolutely everything. 

Ya, but ...

Never underestimate the ability of educated people to justify their biased preconceptions.

Never overestimate anyones education. Just listen. 

Music City posted:

Education in this country has been hijacked by the social justice/occupy/intersectionality movement. It is the secular religion of the new left. 

If you don’t think that, there’s a reason... in an echo chamber, it’s hard to hear a dissenting voice. 

If you do think that, there’s a reason... in an echo chamber, it’s hard to hear a dissenting voice. 

Goalline posted:
YATittle posted:

From the link: 

What nearly all these pundits fail to grasp is “I can’t answer these questions” is not the same thing as “These questions demonstrate that students in earlier days were better educated than today’s students.” Just about any test looks difficult to those who haven’t recently been steeped in the material it covers.

You are just mad, because you couldn't figure out what a bushel is. 

Four pecks or two kennings.

Which begs the question: What the **** is a kenning?

YATittle posted:

Steveluke thanks for the kind words. I do recognize the foolishness inherent in what you posted. A teacher at a neighboring school made porn videos with her husband and she's only suspended and lawyers are debating whether it's fair for the school district to fire her for something she does in her off time. Nuts. Teachers are role models, should be held to a higher standard. JMHO.

Why are people letting their kids watch porn? She's a legal adult, making vids with her husband even. People in this country are too damned uptight about sex and too dismissive of violence. 

Herschel posted:
YATittle posted:

Steveluke thanks for the kind words. I do recognize the foolishness inherent in what you posted. A teacher at a neighboring school made porn videos with her husband and she's only suspended and lawyers are debating whether it's fair for the school district to fire her for something she does in her off time. Nuts. Teachers are role models, should be held to a higher standard. JMHO.

Why are people letting their kids watch porn? She's a legal adult, making vids with her husband even. People in this country are too damned uptight about sex and too dismissive of violence. 

Uh, should parents be with kids 24/7? Believe me, they can get around any "blocks" you put on the internet. And can you remember what you were like as an adolescent boy? How much would be be paying attention to the material if this was your teacher?

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El-Ka-Bong posted:

Educated in Wisconsin, had to google the definition of 3 of those words.

And don't get me started on science.  God created the earth with dinosaur bones already in it, but he tricked the loser scientists by making them think the dinosaurs died of vaccines.  

As someone with a PhD in Genetics, clearly the explanations you are espousing make more sense than those developed after decades of research by thousands of researchers throughout the world. Of course, we scientists are all involved in a grand conspiracy. 

You forgot about how God tricked all them book-learnin' scientists by deliberately messing with the amount of Carbon-14 in fossils and how climate change is hoax because Inhofe could throw a snowball in the Senate. This is my favorite recent social media post. Sums up a lot about the idiocy in our country. 

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I am continually shocked as a species so many of us actively chose to deny science and work against our best interests.  I guess it will take another millennia (if we make it) to get past our hunter/gather caveman live for tomorrow brain.  



We trust scientists when it comes to bad lettuce, so at least we got that

antooo posted:
Goalline posted:
YATittle posted:

From the link: 

What nearly all these pundits fail to grasp is “I can’t answer these questions” is not the same thing as “These questions demonstrate that students in earlier days were better educated than today’s students.” Just about any test looks difficult to those who haven’t recently been steeped in the material it covers.

You are just mad, because you couldn't figure out what a bushel is. 

Four pecks or two kennings.

Which begs the question: What the **** is a kenning?

A kenning  "a metaphorical circumlocution, signifying a person or thing by a characteristic or quality." Basically, it's a metaphor. Kennings are really common in the poem "Beowulf," and after a short bit the kids catch on and really find them fun to decipher. 

Examples: "whale-road" = the sea; "battle-sweat" = blood; "raven-harvest" = corpse; "light-of-battle" = sword; "shadow of death" = Grendel (the monster); "helmet-bearers" = warriors

Kids like Beo as it's fighting, monsters, blood and gore, heros, etc.     

Donner the reindeer loves this discussion. After all, “that’s women’s work” 

Kyrie Irving wants to weigh in on the subject 

i have a feeling the anti immunization crowd also doesn’t think we put a man, or I mean astronaut, on the moon 

Or to quote the most famous junkie/dealer Jessie Pinkman - “yeah Mr. White! Yeah Science!” 

I’ll side with the man or woman that went to school for 25 years and tested theories vs the mouthbreathers and knuckledraggers crowd.   High IQ is pretty much undefeated.  Unless you exist in the ‘Murican State.  Not to be confused with M$U. 

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