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No word on Winker being sent to AAA for rehab or any other news. He was eligible to come off DL on the 10th I believe.  He is still on the 4o man roster as DH.   

Anyway here is tonight's winning line up.



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Going 2 for 29 from the plate with one walk isn't going to win you many games.

Yelich singled to open the game and then Contreras walked. After that, the Dodgers pitching staff retired 27 of the last 28 (Santana's solo homer in the 7th was it). So, during the last 8 innings, Dodger pitchers never had to pitch out of the stretch.

Of course, the Dodgers having two future HOF position players (Betts and Freeman) as well as another borderline HOFer (JD Martinez) gives them a little more pop in their lineup.

There have to be some discussions going on about how to handle Willy Adames down the stretch (and then what to do with his contract after the season).

He started the season looking OK. At the end of April he was 24 for 100 at the plate with 18 walks. His OBP was 356 and he'd hit 5 home runs with 15 RBIs.

Since May 1st, he is 58 for 306 with 29 walks (and 4 HBPs). That 189 batting average and 268 OBP is not something you can keep sending out there on a daily basis.

He's making 9 million this year and is arbitration eligible again next year.

@ammo posted:

At least the Cubs and Reds lost too so we stay 3.5 games ahead.

This.

Come out of this road trip with any kind of lead and the remaining schedule is very friendly.

-A little shake up in the batting order tonight.   Brewers have hit Kershaw pretty good over the years his record is 7-5 vs. Brewers with a 2.95 ERA.  Meanwhile Miley is 4-0 in seven starts at Dodger Stadium.  ERA of 2.06.  We need this one.

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Miley has given up 3 runs in the first two innings, but it could have been much, much worse. However, given the Brewers typical offensive production that might be enough.

At least they are almost done with games against the Braves and Dodgers. They are 2-8 against them this year.

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@PackerRick posted:

Unbelievable how bad Brian Anderson has been at the plate. On April 26 he had 5 HRs and 20 RBIs. 4 HR and 18 RBIs since then.

You could replace the name Brian Anderson with any of the following and it would still make sense.

Willy Adames, Joey Wiemer, Rowdy Tellez, Jesse Winker, Brice Turang, Carlos Santana, Tyrone Taylor, Blake Perkins, Luis Uriaz, Mark Canha, and Luke Voit. All have OPS well under 700 as Brewers.

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Going 2 for 29 from the plate with one walk isn't going to win you many games.

Yelich singled to open the game and then Contreras walked. After that, the Dodgers pitching staff retired 27 of the last 28 (Santana's solo homer in the 7th was it). So, during the last 8 innings, Dodger pitchers never had to pitch out of the stretch.

Of course, the Dodgers having two future HOF position players (Betts and Freeman) as well as another borderline HOFer (JD Martinez) gives them a little more pop in their lineup.

The Brewers are now 5 for 56 with 5 walks in the first two games of the series.

Anderson has probably hit below .150 with no power for 4 months.  I'll agree on Voit and Winker but not the rest. At least they do other things well. Even Adames at .200 hits with power and makes more plays in the field. Anderson can't even PR.

The Brewers are now 5 for 56 with 5 walks in the first two games of the series.

The Brewers hit the ball hard last night and had nothing but bad luck. The Dodgers are getting breaks on everything they hit. A lot of weakly hit balls for hits. The Brewers have played sloppy and the Dodgers are scoring without hitting the ball out of the infield while the Brewers are lining into DPs.

@PackerRick posted:

Anderson has probably hit below .150 with no power for 4 months.  I'll agree on Voit and Winker but not the rest. At least they do other things well. Even Adames at .200 hits with power and makes more plays in the field. Anderson can't even PR.

I agree and the WAR data for this year backs that up to some degree (Adames, Turang, and Wiemer in particular are plus defenders). I think the underlying problem is that you can afford to have 1-2 guys who are good on defense and weak on offense, but the Brewers started 5 guys with OPS below 700 last night (Canha and Santana are below that as Brewers). The Dodgers started 2.

https://www.baseball-reference...teams/MIL/2023.shtml

Having 5 guys who are well below average on offense just allows the opposing pitcher to coast quite a bit. Even the guys on the Brewers with OPS in the above average range don't really scare anyone (Yelich and Contreras).

The next three games are ones in which the Brewers have the advantage in the pitching matchups with Burnes vs. Lance Lynn (5.88 ERA), Woodruff vs. Heaney (4.17), and Peralta vs. Dunning. They need to win 2 of these three because the final matchup on this road trip of Scherzer vs. Houser is not promising.

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It’s not just bad luck.  We know this about the Brewers.  Their hitting is pretty suspect and has been for some time now.  

You can get by with decent pitching and scratching out close games but almost 60% of their losses this year have been in games that they’ve scored 2 runs or less.  

Good teams like Atlanta and LA can hit and pitch.  

@Tschmack posted:

It’s not just bad luck.  We know this about the Brewers.  Their hitting is pretty suspect and has been for some time now.  

You can get by with decent pitching and scratching out close games but almost 60% of their losses this year have been in games that they’ve scored 2 runs or less.  

Good teams like Atlanta and LA can hit and pitch.  

Yes. The Brewers offense turns guys with 5.00 ERAs into 3.50 guys. The Brewers pitching is top 5 in the league, but there is no room for error.

Here's the current ranks in MLB. They only thing they are really good at is drawing walks.

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It's no secret that the Brewers are weak on offense but both Canha and Santana are hitting the ball hard after slow starts. Weimer has lost playing time since Canha arrived and if this were earlier in the season he might get sent down.

Turang is spectacular on defense and hitting in the low 200s is enough to keep him in the lineup. The needed production from an OFer and a 2B are much different.

Weimer is a different story. Mitchell was every bit as good defensively and a far more accomplished hitter.  To me, Weimer has been disappointing. For all the breaking balls he's been fed this year it appears he hasn't improved at all and that's alarming. Unless he changes his fundamentals he might have hit his ceiling doing what he's doing.

Montasterio has a middle infielder's bat and is not the long term answer at 3B. Adames is the heart of the clubhouse but moving him for a 3B and moving Montesterio might be an option. I doubt Tyler Black will be ready next season although that is the projection.

I don't know if it's possible, but if Yelich and his rag arm moved to 1B it would really solve an OF logjam that is looming in another year.

Yes the bats are pathetic and they'll never compete with LA and ATL financially. So they'll have these windows where everything has to come together. The pitching and defense is there but the hitting isn't. Everything has to fall in place for the Brewers at the same time to create that window.

Burnes locked in after a shaky 1st inning but the offense is still a blank. I feel like I'm waiting for something bad to happen and what's turning out to be that great effort by Burnes will be wasted. Sanchez is a great defensive 1B.

I could see it coming. Burnes pitched the two hitter I asked for and something bad happened. Barnes hits his first HR of the year to give them the lead in the 8th. Brewers had 1st and 3rd no outs in the 7th and got nothing.

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