It's Thursday already. Time to talk about Stafford and Patricia!
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20+ touches for Jones this week. No more fooling around. This guy on turf is a perfect match. With all the question marks at WR and TE it's time to go full on Ground Chuck this week.
Interesting to see how the situation shakes out at WR. Opportunities could be there for the rookies.
If we know MM, he'll try to minimize exposing our rookie WR's and lean more on TE's, Ty and RB's (run and pass). It's probably a short term situation, otherwise I think you'd see more rookie involvement to work them into the offense.
I know that we haven't won every road game in Detroit that Rodgers was starting QB, but it feels like we've won almost all of them when he was in there. The only one I remember NOT winning with Rodgers as the starter was in 2010 when he got a concussion and Matt Flynn had to finish.
If it wasn't for Aaron Rodgers, I'd expect a Lions win, but the bottom line is, as long as Rodgers is out there and not completely paralyzed, the Lions aren't going to win. Hell, just 3 years ago the Lions mostly outplayed the Packers for about 59 minutes and 59 seconds but that last second didn't work out for them so well (Rodgers threw the greatest Hail Mary pass I have ever seen) and the Lions still found a way to lose.
Edit: I do see the Lions beat the Pack fair and square in Detroit in 2014 with Rodgers as a starter. I think this was just before he told us all to "relax".
It's pretty bizarre that they are 1-3 but the win was against the Pats.
This will be a tougher test for the defense, that's for sure.
Here's how the 2 teams compare statistically speaking (offensively):
| Rush Attempts | Rush Yards | Rush TDs | Yards/Att | Pass Comp/Att | Pass Yards | Pass TDs | |
| Detroit | 86 | 392 | 1 | 4.6 | 114/171 | 1170 | 8 |
| Green Bay | 91 | 408 | 1 | 4.5 | 103/164 | 1076 | 7 |
Detroit's defense have given up 114 points, while the Packers defense have given up 83.
So far, the 2 offenses look similar, while the Packers defense fared quite a bit better as far as giving up points.
I need to find the link again but I think the Lions defense is giving up something like 170 yards a game on the ground per game. I would love to see the Packers turn loose Jones in the running game and use some play action to loosen things up for the rookie receivers. Offensively, I bet we see when they do pass the really quick passes.
According to the stats on NFL.com (where I got the stats from my previous post), the lions are giving up 157.8 yards per game.
Packers are giving up 107.8
PackerHawk posted:It's pretty bizarre that they are 1-3 but the win was against the Pats.
September football. Also pretty sure that is the one game Patricia circled as a must win at all costs game.
Hopefully the Pack has King back for this game. This will be a test for Pettine's new secondary. They'll need to be able to show they can stop Marvin Jones. He seems to give the Packers fits (avg 117 yds vs Packers since 2016). I'm waiting to see this defense score. Might this be the game vs Stafford?
Thunderbird posted:According to the stats on NFL.com (where I got the stats from my previous post), the lions are giving up 157.8 yards per game.
Packers are giving up 107.8
That is correct for RUSHING yards on a per game basis defensive stats only.
But when both passing & rushing are combined, GB has given up 326.2 yards per game, and the Lions have given up 329.5 yards per game. Not much difference. I used nfl.com too.
My prediction:
Somehow AR coaxes 5 TDs out of this offense (which GB will need) (and to solidify his HOF credentials) as the Packers win 35-28. Crosby will be limited to extra points.
I thought DocBenni's thread qualified. Some of my best plagiarism is in there!
That being said, if this is the official thread...**** the loins.
watching their game last week, big weeks should be in the slot for gb, te across the middle for gb and the deep ball. they are ok against the run, even though 21 gashed them. our defense needs to watch the wr's - tate is really shifty - i can also see him goading 23 into a penalty or 2. overall, since i will be there, packers 43, loins 13. mark it down.
Ghost of Lambeau posted:My prediction:
Somehow AR coaxes 5 TDs out of this offense (which GB will need) (and to solidify his HOF credentials) as the Packers win 35-28. Crosby will be limited to extra points.
This. It’s a nice change for the Packers D to step it up when the offense sputters like they did last week, but I don’t think AR much cares for his offense being outshined by the D. I expect a big game from him. Hopefully the D can hold up their end again this week.
12 players on the injury report. That’s quite a few for only the fifth week. And that doesn’t include the fellas on IR. It’s going to be interesting learning all those new numbers on the jerseys.
Only real concern is WR for this week, every other position should be at full strength. We may get a chance to see if this is our deepest position group as most thought coming out of camp. Too bad Kumerow is out, he may have gotten some opportunities this week. Lions have some injuries of their own most notably to guard TJ Lang (concussion), which will result in a backup having to block Daniels / Clark.
Maybe this is the week our TEs get utilized to their full potential. In slant routes, in the red zone, getting open underneath the coverage, on third and long plays, etc. As our WR corps is somewhat banged up, it is time to use our TEs to full effect.
Randall Cobb (hamstring) has been ruled out for Sunday, coach Mike McCarthy said. Davante Adams (calf) will practice on Saturday, and there's hope for Geronimo Allison (concussion).
We'll see more Ty. In the slot, out of the backfield, maybe even out wide if MM is feeling frisky.
Montgomery has not practiced as a WR since his move to RB. Only pass routes he'll run are from the RB portion of the playbook.
Actually in the jsonline article it said that Monty practices with the WR group a little bit every week.
Agree that the TE's will see more action this game. Even if GMo is active, I'm thinking MVS may see more snaps this week. Looking for him to stretch the field with a couple of deep routes. Don't let that speed/height go to waste.
Ty is a smart kind. I'm guessing he knows every skill position on the offense.
BrainDed posted:Actually in the jsonline article it said that Monty practices with the WR group a little bit every week.
That contradicts what Wilde mentioned on the radio earlier this week. Also, McCarthy has commented that Ty is a RB, and that's the position he practices and plays.
This came up last year when they drafted 3RBs and let Jordy go. McCarthy then said Ty is a RB.
Could Ty play WR in a pinch? Sure. But McStubborn likes the plan he sets in the summer and does not knee jerk change.
Nobody suggested Ty would "be a WR" this weekend. He's moved all around the formation and some of those moves could put him at WR without any issues. He would not be the first RB to be flexed out wide for a handful of plays. Other RB's with far less receiver experience have done it.
Just hand the ball to Jones 25 times and maybe 4-7 receptions. This isn't hard.
Oh, and do I post this tidbit here??? Danica is home in Green Bay.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story...-rodgers/1533486002/
Ugh.....i’d want to see Olivia instead of Danica any day. 
Unless Danica picks up a gig with Uber.
Hungry5 posted:Could Ty play WR in a pinch? Sure. But McStubborn likes the plan he sets in the summer and does not knee jerk change.
Ty should be a WR that plays RB in a pinch.
Goldie posted:Oh, and do I post this tidbit here??? Danica is home in Green Bay.....
https://www.usatoday.com/story...-rodgers/1533486002/
Ugh.....i’d want to see Olivia instead of Danica any day.
I figured you'd rather see Rodgers. Or maybe Callahan or Boyle.
DH13 posted:PackerHawk posted:It's pretty bizarre that they are 1-3 but the win was against the Pats.
September football. Also pretty sure that is the one game Patricia circled as a must win at all costs game.
Obviously, he also knew about as much about their playbook and tendencies as anyone in the league.