Matt flynn??

Agree. 

Wallace needs to be able to hit a few passes now and then, he was nearly incapable of that Monday night (lucky he wasn't picked off). 

 

Still, the loss was on the defense, but even if they got the stop, I had no confidence in Taco passing them into a TD with time ticking off the clock. 

 

 

That last drive was 8:58 long. It the defense gets a stop even with 4:00 left, MM could use the running game and get in the EZ like they'd proven they could do a couple times earlier in the game, with Wallace at QB.

 

I am not saying a know they would have scored for sure, but we sure weren't going to score a TD letting the Bears hold the ball for 9:00.

Respectfully Disagree with the comments on Wallace

 

I don't think Packer fans/NFL fans really have an appreciation of what it takes to be an NFL QB let alone one with no advance notice. Wallace will be better this week because Wallace will have time to prepare and so will his coaches and teammates.

The game plan was designed around having Aaron Rodgers skills available and that is very very different from one designed around Wallace. There isn't a single NFL QB who can come in and run an Aaron Rodgers-designed offense without a dropoff.

None, zero , nada and if you think there is, you're sadly mistaken.

 

What he was asked to do is a lot more difficult than some imagine and if you rewind the tape and watch how the savior, Matt Flynn , did under similar circumstances, you'll see how much he struggled

 

He sucked when asked to come in off the bench vs Detroit; he managed to complete only 15 /26  passes, scored zero points and threw an INT.

http://www.pro-football-refere...res/201012120det.htm

 

He looked a lot better and in command the following week in New England. Its the nature of the beast and expecting more just means you have very unrealistic expectations that will lead to disappointment when they aren't met

 

Look how bad Cutler performs and he's the starter ! Ponder looks lost, Freeman was abysmal, Weeden was a joke. Eli Manning is sucking, Vick lost his job, Carson Palmer can't hit the broadside of a barn. All of those guys had weeks to prepare and offenses designed around their skillsets, yet they still sucked.

 

I keep telling "you people"... we have the best organization in sports and they will rise to the occasion.  Sit back and enjoy how the Packers find a way to win without their leader and best player- but understand it takes more than a couple timeouts to pull it all together.

 

Onward

 

That's it in a nutshell Satani. Even Gruden spoke on this during the game, back-up QBs get almost zero reps in practice with the #1 offense...heck the #1 QB barely gets enough time to practice everything. That's because practices are shorter and coaches are much more limited with what they can do. So think about how "prepared" Wallace could have been Monday night: minimal reps in practice for an offense he has only been in for 8 weeks with receivers he hasn't developed any kind of timing with. Not only is his package of plays limited, but he's barely done any quality work with the guys he's playing with. That's not anyone's fault. That's just how the NFL works. McCown had all offseason and preseason to work with Trestman and their skill players AND he got a BYE week to prepare for GB. Apples and Oranges with Wallace. 

 

Wallace was rusty and there's a lot to clean up, I'm not saying he was good, but there's a limit to what he was able to do. If you expected him to look sharp and McCarthy to have a strong emergency game plan then you need to adjust your expectations.

#FIDO

 

I actually thought MM should have called a time out much earlier, before the two minute warning.  I was worried about how the defense couldn't get off the field, and thought they needed to regroup.  I know that falls against conventional thinking (and comes with a heaping dose of hindsight). 

I always wonder about the use of timeouts and your comments were ones I thought about during the game. To me, it makes more sense to call the timeout earlier on when you can save as much as 40 seconds by doing it.

 

But coaches all seem to let the clock run way down and then call the timeouts, sometimes only saving themselves 8 seconds in the process. There are many ways to stop the clock on offense, but only a few on defense. Seems like calling timeouts earlier on is a better move, but none of them do that and I haven't figured out why

 

Clearly the defense was gassed and needed to regroup; that might have been a better use of the timeout. Oh crap, just noticed the silent killer strikes again !

This. Though I will still say MM/TT took a big gamble waiting so long to bring someone in. The list of available QB's is bad and then you have to consider the number of bad QB's that are starting. The talent pool has definitely been diluted at QB. Believe me, where I live, I have had to try to explain the difference between McCown having training camp and 2 weeks to prepare vs Wallace but there isn't any reasoning with the Bear's "fans".

@ satori

 

I just had a feeling things were going south, and I was pretty sure playing for the last few ticks off the clock on offense wasn't going to end well.  Of course, if MM burns a time out earlier in the clock and the bears still get a first down, he gets lambasted by everyone and their sister for wasting time outs to early.

 

I get why coaches are conservative, I just had a feeling they needed to preserve clock earlier in the game. 

♫ Red flags in pocket and time-outs at halftime

Third and one passes and players who hate crime
Having to win using his second and third strings
These are a few of MM's favorite things ♫

Although my first reaction to Wallace was the same as many, condemning MM and TT for being ill-prepared, I'm going to reserve final judgement for at least a couple games. McCarthy's offense seems to be pretty complicated, really tailored for Rodgers skills. But it's unlikely that they will re-create the whole thing for Wallace. I'm guessing that McCarthy went with Wallace as the No. 2 based more on his potential ability to get his head around the offense than his amazing physical skills. Hopefully what we saw Mon night was not his best and a week of prep will make a big difference. It didn't help that our OL had to be juggled around again to accommodate the loss of Lang. At this point, I'll give McCarthy the benefit of the doubt. We'll know soon enough.

Defense played very poorly, but the offense was 1-9 on third down and couldn't stay on the field. Wallace should (hopefully) improve with first team reps and I expect him to play much better than we saw on Monday night.

 

As far as the mishandling of the backup QB situation, the organization admitted to that when they brought Vince Young in.

I agree we probably expected miracles from Wallace and were going to be let down, but I was really disappointed in his body language and seeming attitude. Did I expect him to miss passes? Yup. I was disappointed in his not talking to his teammates, his not "inspiring the troops," so to speak. Every shot they showed of him on the bench, he was by himself. I wasn't at the game, but from what they showed on TV I would have expected him to be communicating to his teammates (especially his receivers) and getting a better feel for them and for the game. I did not expect him to be a cheerleader but I wanted more leadership and enthusiasm from him, especially as he's a 10-year guy. I certainly would not have been inspired to play for him with the demeanor we saw on TV.

 

Actually, Wallace's demeanor was like how I felt at home over the loss of Rodgers.

I frequent another site and someone said on there that Tebow is in talks with GB.  I don't know if this is a rumor or not, but has anyone heard this?

If they don't have a reputable link, it's bull****.  And even then it's likely bull****.  Tebow is done.  If they wanted him starting they would've brought him in with Vince Young, etc.

I am calling bs on the Tebow thing as well.  They guy had no link to prove it.

We could use a prayer leader....

I'm handling the prayers around here, you ****ing ****bags.

 

Here's a link - it's from some idiot's blog:

 

http://jremsing.sportsblog.com...tebow_headed_to.html

 

Seems reputable to me.  

Everyone seems to have also forgotten that Wallace had not seen any live NFL action for nearly 2 years. He never even played a down in 2012.  Bring in any QB who had not seen the speed of NFL players for 2 years and they would look bad too. Remember many people said Peyton Manning looked washed up at first after his year off but he seems to have put it together again now.

Tebow would be to replace Finley, not Rodgers.

 

I.E. it aint happenin

The Packers have 4 TEs and 3 QBs on the 53... and Tebow ain't better than any of them at either position.

I would like to make a motion that this is now JJSD's new Avatar tag line!  And a change in the avatar too, we need some mojo!

 

Second.

 

Maybe Booger P. still has some mojo?

 

 

If we want to keep it prayer related...

 

Guido lives !

 

Here he is talking about the 5 Minute University

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO8x8eoU3L4

Done and done, just for you guys.  It was time to bring Booger back anyway - the situation the GBP are in calls for it.  

 

 

You did NOT just compare Senecca "Taco" Wallace to Peyton Manning.

 

Yes, I know what you're trying to say

Peyton Manning never caught a TD in the playoffs. And Taco has never lost a playoff game as a QB!

Reaching???

I'm ****ing praying for you, my confused friend from Iowa.  

Well that makes one of you...

@zachkruse2

PFT says the same thing. 

Saw those reports. Unless Flynn's arm is really really okay, I don't see them signing him. Maybe this is just a courtesy workout. They would have to make room on the roster for a fourth QB, and I just don't see that happening. Geez, then we'd look like the Vikings or something. 

If the arm is OK, they sign him immediately. It probably isn't OK, witness 3 cuts by QB-starved teams.

Ian Rappaport also said Packers would tryout Matt Flynn.

 

It doesn't make any sense NOT to, especially after TT was watching Seneca the last 2 days at practice

 

Guh.....

I think it's different. Keeps the heat on Wallace. Perform Sunday, or you could be gone. Same with Tolzien. Whether Flynn gets signed or not, the threat of his workout may help us get a win Sunday.

quote:

Lets see what happens with a week to prepare, we can always kill him later

 

No kidding

 

You'd think the Packers were 1-7 right now instead of 5-3

 

Did Wallace play well on MNF?  No.  But the D was the real disappointment in the game.   It's not like they got blown out.

 

None of us are happy that Rodgers got hurt but the reality is that this is the NFL and guys get hurt.  The fact of the matter is that the Packers have been extremely lucky to have Favre and Rodgers and neither guy has missed extended playing time really until now.   That's 20 years of prolonged success at the most important position on your team.  

 

Hopefully Rodgers is a quick healer and comes back for Detroit or the week after.   I think having Wallace get some preparation and practice can only help.  

 

Without Rodgers, we very well could.