Through 2019 (this extension was done during the season by Ted), per source.
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Mike McCarthy signed a one-year extension during the season. He's now under contract through 2019. Interesting. Keeps him from being a lame duck, but also allows the Packers an out. Simply put, the new GM won't be stuck with MM.
— Michael Rodney (@PackersNotes) January 2, 2018
What else happened over the year that we did not hear about?
And I am just fine with this.....the Packers could do a lot worse than Mike
Not unexpected that he gets an extension. 1 year surprises me.
That is...odd.
Here's Demovsky's piece on the extension:
This to me indicates that the Thompson move was in the works for a while. Also believe they know who the new GM is and they signed off on this as part of the transition plan. They will likely "interview" Highsmith for Rooney rule, then announce Ball as GM to go with his EVP of Football Admin/Player Finance title, and then promote Wolf to EVP of Football Operations.
Ball is 58, so Wolf takes over the whole deal in 5-7 years...
This looks like window dressing to me. Extended long enough to not be a lame duck HC, but not long enough that the Packers will be "stuck" with MM either. Would love to know what guys like Wolf and Gutekunst really think of MM.
Rooney Rule for GM's ? ? ?
Yes, it applies to Head Coaches and Sr football operation jobs.
packerboi posted:This looks like window dressing to me. Extended long enough to not be a lame duck HC, but not long enough that the Packers will be "stuck" with MM either. Would love to know what guys like Wolf and Gutekunst really think of MM.
Well, when they name the new GM, we'll find out. If it's an MM believer, he will get a new three-year-minimum deal. If not, his contract remains the same and he's gone after next year.
Hungry5 posted:Yes, it applies to Head Coaches and Sr football operation jobs.
Thanks, didn't know that.
Well they probably interviewed Highsmith already and they could talk to McKenzie if needed.
Could it have also been stuffing MM's pockets a bit with position for a bigger buyout if the new GM wants to curb him?
We heard mention of the "transition plan already in place" this last offseason. This could all be unfolding as part of their grand plan, established long ago.
Mike Sherman got a two-year extension when he was removed as GM and fired one year later. Wouldn't really read too much into that except the new GM will have lots of options available as far as MM goes.
Sherman's extension was Harlan's request to Thompson.
McCarthy's extension was Thompson's idea.
Well.....sounds like MM will have to actually COACH in 2018 if he wants to stay in Green Bay
Hungry5 posted:McCarthy's extension was Thompson's idea.
Wilde reporting that TT got a one-year extension previously. Makes sense he would want MM's contract to mirror his own.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Well.....sounds like MM will have to actually COACH in 2018 if he wants to stay in Green Bay
That was my first thought. New deal, new boss, new DC, let's see what you got.
Dislike. He’s done.
prove me wrong and I’ll eat crow, you stubborn fool who can’t even see how bad Brett Hundley is...
Good news
Somebody please convince me that the Rooney Rule is not a cruel charade to minority candidates?
...just because something is a good idea....
I’m betting he did see how bad Hundley was, but you have to give the guy a chance because he has been in the system for three years and it’s not like he’s seen a lot of real game time in any of them. Once he played a couple games, it’s too late to bring in anyone and now your team is screwed. At that point, you can’t say publicly, “Our QB’s best play is the duck and run.” MM is not one to criticize his players in the media.
MM made two mistakes: not signing a veteran backup immediately, and not realizing just how badly Hundley would play. If he had signed a vet, he could have given Hundley two games to show what he could do and then pull the plug so the other guy was ready. Hundley did okay in preseason and I recall several folks crossing their fingers but there were no pitchforks and torches for a new backup, and many even praised Callahan. It wouldn’t surprise me at all to see MM dump Hundley this year, now that he’s seen him in live action.
Hope you’re right
Me too! :-)
Brainwashed Boris posted:Well.....sounds like MM will have to actually COACH in 2018 if he wants to stay in Green Bay
Yeah, about as close as you can get to 50/50 coming back or not. Late last night I later thought the one-year deal was the only safe solution in order to avoid MM being a lame-duck and/or ,if released, going to another team such as the Lions or Bears. If successful then being offered a longer extension after 2018.
Good luck trying to get a defensive coordinator with a lame duck coach. I'm not so sure they can get a good one with the current state of things.
Disagree. They'll get a good DC.
I agree. If I'm a good DC, I see opportunity post MM. If I can fix the D in in a year or two, MM rides off into the sunset after a couple, I become head coach and AR12 runs the offense for the last couple years of his career ala Peyton and pick up Super Bowl Titles 5, 6, 7 and 8 (to quote LeBron) along the way.
How often does a HC get let go and the DC gets promoted to HC? Unless there is some sort of "agreement" ahead of time, I don't see why any good DC would want to come to Green Bay with the current situation of no GM, Murphy and a HC that doesn't have a longer commitment.
Leslie Frazier comes to mind :ducking:.
A younger guy who has something to prove and would work his arse off.
I think most in NFL fully expect one of the three insiders to get the GM position, and they are all fairly well known within the league. So it is not much an uncertainty risk. I also think most DC candidates would jump at the chance to be on a SB team with AR12 and only need to field a top 10 D or at least get a few key stops in an important game. The current situation in GB is likely very attractive to potential DC candidates.
bigdoggyjude posted:I think most in NFL fully expect one of the three insiders to get the GM position, and they are all fairly well known within the league. So it is not much an uncertainty risk. I also think most DC candidates would jump at the chance to be on a SB team with AR12 and only need to field a top 10 D or at least get a few key stops in an important game. The current situation in GB is likely very attractive to potential DC candidates.
Especially since there’s nowhere to go but up from this year’s dumpster fire
Listening to WTMJ Packers talk. Some minor speculation that if a new GM is hired outside of the Packers current org, that MM being on the sideline in 2018, is no sure bet.
And if you think about it...while a one-year extension alleviates the lame-duck status. But it is also akin to asking someone to sit down for dinner while you're cleaning the kitchen and putting away the meal.
I think MM needs to re-evaluate himself. Drop about 40 lbs and get in shape.
Blair Kiel posted:Somebody please convince me that the Rooney Rule is not a cruel charade to minority candidates?
...just because something is a good idea....
At best, it gives up and coming minority candidates practice interviewing.
I read this as the GM move has been in the works since the beginning of the season. Extend MM for a year, hand over control to Ball or Wolf and let them make the call after the 2018 season.
Cant just hand it over because of Rooney Rule so we have to put on the show like someone else has a chance.
Brainwashed Boris posted:Disagree. They'll get a good DC.
I totally agree. Many may be really down on this team right now but I guarantee you that the Packers DC (or working for the Packers) is an attractive job in football circles.
I think MM being the HC this year will happen whether they hire a GM internally or externally. I know I am way in the minority thinking this but I just don't believe MM all of the sudden forgot how to coach and I think football guys know that. This past season MM was totally hamstrung the moment AR went down and with Dom's defense. Now I will say if next year is another disaster I would say a move has to be made.
Coaches know what comes with the profession...they all know they can come in one year, and be gone the next. The Packers are the outlier...as long as McCarthy has been here, he's stuck by his assistants. Any DC that comes in will want a 2-year deal, which isn't unreasonable.
Any DC worth a damn isn't going to be scared away by a perceived lack of talent. Good DC can take what you have and get respectable performances. It happens every year in the NFL.
If anything, a new DC will look at the Packers and say half the battle of winning is having a great QB, and GB has the best one in the business. They've won with dog$hit defenses the last 5 years...if I can just get them to improve by giving up 7 less points a game, we are going to win a lot of ball games.
A great QB can really help his D.
I would thing any DC worth a **** would want to be somewhere that gives a longer than 2 year opportunity.