Enough...
Lots of blame to go around with the sh!tstorm that is the Packers offense. Chicken or the egg?
Or the farmer if TT hasn't drafted the right type of players at certain positions also.
Grave Digger posted:I think McCarthy gets frustrated when the team wins and people act like they lost. Some people, even in the media, act like they're 0-5 and the wheels are falling off.
Fine, get pissed and do something about it - and not more of "We do what we do". They're 3-2 and it does look like they are missing more than a few lugs.
They are 8-9 since the 6-0 start of 2015. Lots of blame to go around, but it starts with McCarthy and Rodgers.
Chicken/egg is a phenomenal reference to MM/AR. I thought the same thing Monday am. Which came first. AR's erratic play or the stagnant pass design? Regardless of the side of the fence you're on it's all led to the current clown show.
For the record, I'm firmly entrenched in the "MM done ****ed this up and he'd best burn the midnight oil scheming a way out of it"
I think it's more scrambled eggs as they both prescribe to the same tact and have said as much. This isn't an instance of one ruining the other. They are both culpable and stubborn. There isn't a media yap, fan or NFL exec that doesn't see this system is repetitive and simple yet both MM and Rodgers seem unable to course correct.
It's because of this the predictability of playoff success the outlook is sometimes glum. One, they haven't just exited the playoffs they went careening off the cliff in a flaming wreck vis-a-vis Michael Bay fashion.
This is Andy Reid/Marty Schottenheimer stuff.
Oh, and to add to it, we know MM will go before Rodgers. It's just that way. That may be what's needed but it surely doesn't excuse Rodgers. A new coach is essentially a kick in the ass.
Grave Digger posted:I think McCarthy gets frustrated when the team wins and people act like they lost. Some people, even in the media, act like they're 0-5 and the wheels are falling off.
Nah, it's not that the wheels were falling off. It's more along the lines of "yeah, you won, but there are issues with this offense (in past 1+ years unlike it being the defense 2011-14) that might be covered up vs Jacksonville or Detroit, but will prove significant against any good to great team."
And those people have been proven correct time and time again.
At this point, I think we'd need to see three good games in a row to (re?)establish the trend in order to give them the benefit of the doubt once more.
I'd take 3 quarters.
Henry posted:I get pissed when people don't have a leg to stand and pretend they do by trolling. I'm guessing you're a Trump voter.
Lighten up Francis. You're not going to enjoy being a 49ers fan when Rodgers retires, unretires and gets traded though...
I'll just grab your pussy instead.
Try it buddy. Donald and I eat pieces of sh*t like you for breakfast.
I expect multiple lawsuits.
Grave Digger posted:Try it buddy. Donald and I eat pieces of sh*t like you for breakfast.
And I expect this thread to be locked any minute now
Seems a consensus here that the scheme ought to stay with similar to the Giant drive. Much less of the leaving the pocket stuff.
So practice the crap out of that scheme with a keen eye on AR's mechanics.
Then I'd say it's on Rodgers.
Grave Digger posted:Try it buddy. Donald and I eat pieces of sh*t like you for breakfast.
Bring Melania. I'm a mulatto.
They got spoiled in 2014 - to the point where I think MM and Rodgers think they can just flip a switch and it will all be corrected.
Since the Seattle playoff loss they are 13-8, but are basically a .500 team over their last season of football. Their last really decent win was week 2 last year against Seattle. Since then they haven't had a quality win. It's not supernatural.
One thing they can do and should do is stop with the empty backfield - at least for 3rd and 10 or less. You are taking away even the threat of a run so the safetys can play back and the corners can play man-to-man and just sit on the receivers. Keep a back in to at least pose the threat of a run; he can also block; and maybe even swing out of the backfield for a screen or a dump over the middle if needed.
How do they not go empty, there aren't any RB's
phaedrus posted:Seems a consensus here that the scheme ought to stay with similar to the Giant drive. Much less of the leaving the pocket stuff.
I think the consensus is that the team needs to run more plays that score touchdowns. Those are plays we can get behind
Tschmack posted:Their last really decent win was week 2 last year against Seattle. Since then they haven't had a quality win. It's not supernatural.
Winning at WAS in the playoffs is a quality win.
And part 2 is coming up....
I'd be surprised that professional athletes would ever let something like arrogance impede their performance.
After meeting Jerry Glanville, I'm positive that a HC would.
But I respect Lynn's opinion much more than I would some asshat like Florio or McGinn's "scout source".