Michigan @ Badgers........can you say bloodbath?? Or first loss for Michigan......

Usually when I think UW will get blasted they do good. And I think they will get blasted.  

Part of me wants to say they pull it out but I think they will get blasted.

They'll hang close and end up losing by 6-8 points. 

Down 2 at the half.   They did have a lead a few times.  Went over 5 minutes without scoring too.  

Badgers are playing well, but this game shows why Happ is not an NBA player. He can not deal with NBA level size. 

AtTheMurph posted:

Usually when I think UW will get blasted they do good. And I think they will get blasted.  

I agree, but a tad surprised they’re at hanging with em.  Come on Bucky win this thing.  

Sit Kobe King. He's loafing on defense and ineffective. At least most of the other guys are putting in effort on defense. 

Their offense is just awful without Happ on the floor. They look like they are running an offense a team would at an open gym when the next five guys are the next team in. 

Goldie posted:

AtTheMurph posted:

Usually when I think UW will get blasted they do good. And I think they will get blasted.  

I agree, but a tad surprised they’re at hanging with em.  Come on Bucky win this thing.  

I've watched Michigan a few times this year. They are well coached and will win a NCAA tournament game or two, but if anyone thinks they are the best team in the country, they're on something. 

MichiganPacker2 posted:

Goldie posted:

AtTheMurph posted:

Usually when I think UW will get blasted they do good. And I think they will get blasted.  

I agree, but a tad surprised they’re at hanging with em.  Come on Bucky win this thing.  

I've watched Michigan a few times this year. They are well coached and will win a NCAA tournament game or two, but if anyone thinks they are the best team in the country, they're on something. 

Well if Bucky can knock them off, that’ll go a long way to indicating Michigan’s not that good.   

MichiganPacker2 posted:

Badgers are playing well, but this game shows why Happ is not an NBA player. He can not deal with NBA level size. 

Happ has looked a lot better the last 5 minutes. He's adjusted something in his post game and is now handling Teske's defense. 

Goldie posted:

MichiganPacker2 posted:

Goldie posted:

AtTheMurph posted:

Usually when I think UW will get blasted they do good. And I think they will get blasted.  

I agree, but a tad surprised they’re at hanging with em.  Come on Bucky win this thing.  

I've watched Michigan a few times this year. They are well coached and will win a NCAA tournament game or two, but if anyone thinks they are the best team in the country, they're on something. 

Well if Bucky can knock them off, that’ll go a long way to indicating Michigan’s not that good.   

If Bucky would have played this well against Minnesota, Marquette, and Western Kentucky, they'd still be rated in the top 25. 

Hack a Happ. They've already lost a couple of games because of this. 

How can Beilein complain about that? It's as obvious an intentional foul as you will ever see. 

This game may have saved Gard's job. 

Michigan played very atypical - they looked terribly coached the last 3 minutes. 

That’s about as big a win as they’ve had in some time.  Rally around Gard perhaps? 

MichiganPacker2 posted:

How can Beilein complain about that? It's as obvious an intentional foul as you will ever see. 

He should have been thrown out of the game.  

Shocked, gave them virtually no shot for the win.

I didn't see much of it, but I thought King was playing well?  Maybe just the few glimpses I saw?

MichiganPacker2 posted:

Badgers are playing well, but this game shows why Happ is not an NBA player. He can not deal with NBA level size. 

michiganjoe posted:

Shocked, gave them virtually no shot for the win.

#Badgers are 6-2 against top 10 opponents at the Kohl Center when they're unranked in the last 10 years...crazy.

— Evan Flood (@Evan_Flood) January 19, 2019

To be clear, I don't think Happ is much of an NBA prospect, but playing against size isn't his problem.  

I also didn't give Bucky much of a chance today.  They were playing to weak of defense and missing shots.  

And lastly, I thought the game was over in the last few minutes when Trice had the ball and dribbled and dribbled and dribbled.  I thought for sure this was another lost possession that would give Michigan some Mo.  Dribble, dribble, dribble, no look pass to Ethan for a slam.  

Then I knew they would win.  

WARNING: DUBS DOWN CAN BE HAZARDOUS TO YOUR UNDEFEATED RECORD#Badgers pic.twitter.com/BUn1PgteeS

— Scary Alvarez (@barryisthedon) January 19, 2019

To me there's 3 reasons Happ isn't NBA caliber.   He's not explosive, he isn't as big as many NBA Centers are, and most importantly he can't hit a shot outside of 5 feet.

What makes him a fantastic college player, his ball handling, post moves, and hand eye coordination in terms of steals/blocks are elite for a college Center.  If he could ever develop any sort of outside shot it would make up for his lack of explosiveness and size and give him a chance at the NBA.  But so far, he hasn't shown any hope of ever developing a jump shot.

At around the midpoint of the second half, Happ had been stopped on post moves about 3 or 4 times in a few minutes. After that, he made some adjustments and looked like the fantastic college player that he is. 

I agree on the lack of a jump shot. It's perplexing that after 5 years at Madison that he hasn't developed into a guy that could hit outside shots even in the 20-25% range. 

EC Pack posted:

I didn't see much of it, but I thought King was playing well?  Maybe just the few glimpses I saw?

He played well in spurts, but got called out by Dakich for jogging back on defense a couple of times and giving up layups as a result. 

Happ is almost the mirror image of Frank Kaminsky in terms of his NBA strengths and weaknesses. Frank is riding the bench for the Hornets now because he is a poor rebounder for his size and they consider him a liability on defense against the stretch 4 types. However, he's very effective at stretching the court from the 3 point line. 

Happ would be a decent defender against the stretch 4 types and he's a better rebounder than Kaminsky. But a guy that can't shoot outside of 5 feet has no place in today's NBA. The fact his FT shooting is so bad probably makes scouts project that he's unlikely to improve much from outside.

But Kaminsky will probably find a job somewhere because 3 point shooting from your big guys is a key skill in the NBA right now. 

Michigan should be ashamed of this... to let the one guy that can beat you beat you, that’s pathetic. 

If this game saved Gard’s job, then Alvarez should be fired too. 

Do we need my annual 'storm the court' comment(s)?

I have no issue with the fans running onto the court after that win. Pure emotion...

chickenboy posted:

Do we need my annual 'storm the court' comment(s)?

If we do, take it to the Viking Forum please.

A win over the number 2 team in the nation could change the Badgers WHOLE season.    12-6 overall      4-3 in the conference  with the fighting Illini coming up Wednesday nite in Champaign.