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From the link: “They're not used to losing,” Jaguars defensive tackle Malik Jackson told USA TODAY Sports. “Their coach probably told them that we aren't (expletive), told them we can't beat them. We went out there smacked them in the mouth and they don't know how to act.”

It wasn't the right thing to do, but how much do we expect these guys to put up with? I mean, he had a drink thrown at him and you can bet the "fans" were saying some incredibly nasty things. If the cup hits him just right, does it mess with his vision and he ends up without a career? (See the lineman hit by ref's flag.) What should a guy have to put up with when he's putting his health on the line for fan entertainment? Yes, pro athletes make a ton of money, but does that mean fans should be able to abuse them?

These guys are hard-wired to be aggressive and physical, and then expected to just flip a switch when they leave the field. This guy just got ejected and they lost a big game so he's already emotional and then the "fans" pile on.

Sometimes I don't blame athletes who go off on Joe Fan. How many of us would put up with it ? That said, he would have been a lot better if he just tucked his head and kept going.

Let's see... you can tell security about the guy who threw the drink and they may do something, but home security firm doing something about fans yelling at a visiting athlete? I doubt they would do anything.

I despise the Seahawks and their poodle-head coach, but if they end up being the only thing that stands between the Vikings and a Super Bowl appearance, I will swallow my vomit and root for them.  

RochNyFan posted:

I despise the Seahawks and their poodle-head coach, but if they end up being the only thing that stands between the Vikings and a Super Bowl appearance, I will swallow my vomit and root for them.  

Even better would be their kicker kicking the game winning field goal from 40 yards away to win the playoff game.

Fandame posted:

It wasn't the right thing to do, but how much do we expect these guys to put up with? I mean, he had a drink thrown at him and you can bet the "fans" were saying some incredibly nasty things. If the cup hits him just right, does it mess with his vision and he ends up without a career? (See the lineman hit by ref's flag.) What should a guy have to put up with when he's putting his health on the line for fan entertainment? Yes, pro athletes make a ton of money, but does that mean fans should be able to abuse them?

These guys are hard-wired to be aggressive and physical, and then expected to just flip a switch when they leave the field. This guy just got ejected and they lost a big game so he's already emotional and then the "fans" pile on.

Sometimes I don't blame athletes who go off on Joe Fan. How many of us would put up with it ? That said, he would have been a lot better if he just tucked his head and kept going.

Keep your helmet on, head down, leave stadium, heck even jog out of the stadium - no problem.

But no, helmet off and dumbass it up.  no sympathy from me.

I was watching it live on the RED ZONE channel.   The Seahawks D-Line purposely tried to hurt the Jags O-line on a kneel-down play.  It was sickening.  I do think the NFL will look at what that douche Bennett did and suspend him a game.  Maybe even Richardson, too.  The Jags have a right to be pi$$ed about the last sequence of kneel-downs.

That being said...I do agree that there is no place for a fan to throw something onto the field.  As a fan you can boo or curse if you'd like, but throwing stuff is over the line IMHO.

Exactly- this is the kind of crap that got things going at “The Malice in the Palace” when a player (Artest) tried to do something to another (Wallace), and Wallace justifiably hot. Artest backs down because Wallace would eat him alive- but a fan chucks a beer and now the big bad athlete wants to take a fan on. It’s stupid on all counts, but honestly these athletes gotta think rationally- you go home to more money in a year than most of us will see in a lifetime. You walk away and count your money...

I agree. Don't throw things. Say almost what you want, except no yelling about "get your kids," don't threaten family, death threats. If a fan went after my family, then I would be very, very tempted to go after the fan. Say what you will about me, but don't involve my family.

And yes, those were the cheapest of shots at the end of that game. No place for that in a game... and it is a game!

Just get your ass off the field and in the tunnel. Nothing NOTHING of any good is going to happen approaching the stands like that (Pistons/Pacers, Blount and the Boise State punch, etc)

and totally agree about the fans - if they can be identified in video and threw something- buh bye season tickets, or whatever 

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I don't like the behavior of the fans towards a player who had already been ejected, but as all Packers know they (the Seasucks) are callous POS and if they are pressed they will play 60's football with a vengeance!!  Just look at Dec game a year ago KJ Wright and his cheap shot on Rogers (82) and Chancellor, and Lane on Adams after he toasted his azz as well- so I have seen this behavior often and know the origin of it!   I am just hoping LA puts them out of their misery and my joy would be unbound if GB and the Sucks were both 10-6 and they got to watch GB in Jan!

Anyone who would throw anything  from the stands should be just as willing to hop over that rail and confront the player personally. Otherwise, they're a complete pussy. Period.
And if they can indeed be identified, they should be prosecuted. Stadium ban goes without saying.
Yelling at players and coaches (even your own) is as classic as the game itself. But I have no idea where the mentality came from that a ticket "guarantees" anything or gives a person a "right" to do/say/act how they want to. Baseball fans interfering with a ball in play are the worst. People throwing cups of beer/ice/soda, batteries (!), and even snowballs from the stands are just as bad.

I have 2 problems with Richardson in this case. The first is he doesn't realize that 2 wrongs never make a right. There was an appropriate way to handle what occurred, and he either didn't know what it was (and he should), or chose the wrong way. I'm going with the latter. 
The next are his post-game locker room comments, where he speaks of  being "disrespected". The way I see it, he  was the one being disrespectful. Not only to opposing players, not only to his own teammates and coaches, not only the league (and therefore sponsors and advertisers), but even to the game itself. 
So I think he's really just another skidmark who talks the talk, but doesn't come close to walking the walk. What he says sounds right, but his actions show otherwise.

Who remembers when Reggie got a penalty for a dirty hit, then got kicked out of a game for fighting?


Yeah, me either.

I’d like to know WTF the security guys on the field were doing once Jefferson started walking away from the tunnel and toward the stands. Then just let him kind of hang around and jaw it out with the front row drunks waiting for someone to throw more crap. 

Get him off the effing field. Period. He’s been ejected. You grab him and tell him to get his ass to the locker room. Nothing good is coming out of letting him stand there. It almost got really ugly. Much of that was on security that let things escalate. 

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I'll bet there will be some immediate rule changes for ejected players.
Jogging instead of walking, helmet has to stay on, and/or similar.
Maybe change protocol for stadium security for escorting a player off the field, and/or the area of the stands where the players tunnel is.

Thanks, drunk assholes! You've really helped the game of football! You're special!

JuJu Smith-Schuster lays out Burfict and taunts him. One game suspension.

Dean Lowry inadvertently brushes Joe Flacco’s helmet with his hand. $18k fine. 

Bennett tries to take out the centers knee on a meaningless kneel play then instigates a brawl leading to ejections. Nothing. 

There is zero consistency in disciplinary action from the NFL. 

I’m pretty sure Blake Martinez was hit with an $18k fine for a horse collar tackle that wasn’t a full blown intentional HC tackle. 

So for Bennett to get off clean after pulling everything he intentionally did is pretty remarkable. But not entirely surprising given the leagues history with fines/suspensions. 

Brainwashed Boris posted:

The idiots "in charge" of the NFL have no ****ing grasp on reality. 

I think the state legislature in some states are the same. Any state that allows children under 1 year of age to buy a hunting license have no ****ing grasp of reality either. 

Unfortunately I'm stuck living in SoCal for a few more years but watching how much the Rams have improved since last in season is remarkable. The roster is essentially the same but proves the importance of having an innovative HC (take notes MM) along with Goff evolving from his rookie season. 

mr21mr21 posted:

Unfortunately I'm stuck living in SoCal for a few more years but watching how much the Rams have improved since last in season is remarkable. The roster is essentially the same but proves the importance of having an innovative HC (take notes MM) along with Goff evolving from his rookie season. 

Wade Phillips was a big difference maker. He's getting paid more than a lot of head coaches right now. He sucks as a head coach, but he's an excellent DC. Must be nice

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Fedya posted:

Wilson and Seahawks found to have dodged concussion test

Just a fine; no suspensions or loss of draft picks.

They did this in the NFC Championship game also after Matthews blocked (and got flagged) Wilson on a interception return. I think it took Wilson about 2 quarters to know where he was after that.

mr21mr21 posted:

Unfortunately I'm stuck living in SoCal for a few more years but watching how much the Rams have improved since last in season is remarkable. The roster is essentially the same but proves the importance of having an innovative HC (take notes MM) along with Goff evolving from his rookie season. 

They also stocked up on a lot of high round draft choices over the last several years.  That doesn't always translate to success and coaching clearly matters but that team was stocked with talent before McVay got there and they happened to hit it on a QB.  

Yeah, but they hit on the QB only after McVay got there. Last year Goff was a mess and everyone was calling him a bust. Your statement about "the last several years" of high draft choices is true, but then Fischer certainly didn't do a lot with those choices, did he? McVay seems to be doing the right thing and coaching them well. 

Let’s see how McVay adapts to defenses that adapt to his innovation. Film matters. 

Unless you’re defending Aaron Rodgers and every ****ing frame of film you watch doesn’t amount to jack ****. 

****!!!!!!!!!!

Fandame posted:

Your statement about "the last several years" of high draft choices is true, but then Fischer certainly didn't do a lot with those choices, did he? 

Pretty much why I said coaching clearly matters.

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