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@ilcuqui posted:

@TomSilverstein:  Hearing after #Broncos were unable to hire Adam Stenavich from #Packers, they went after WR coach Jason Vrable. But he won’t be going either and is possibly LaFleur’s passing game coordinator assuming Getsy leaves for #Bears. Hackett may have eye on TEs coach Justin Outten now.

Could I have Stenavich?

Vrable?

Getsy?

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Damn!

May explain why the Bores and Vikes avoided this hire after he was allegedly a hot candidate with both teams. It will be interesting to see if he gets a HCing gig this year or if a new team does not want to deal with this..

But it also appears the Giants interview was a total shit show and the Giants are to blame.



It gets better..

The suit makes explosive allegations about the Dolphins, his former employer. Flores says that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross offered to pay him an extra $100,000 per loss during the 2019 season, as Ross wanted the Dolphins to lose enough games to secure the first overall pick in the 2020 NFL draft. (Although the Dolphins were widely perceived to be tanking early that season, they improved in the second half of the year and ended up with the fifth overall pick.)

Flores also alleges that Ross tried to get him to recruit β€œa prominent quarterback” who was under contract to another team, in violation of league tampering rules. Flores says he refused.

Brian Flores sues NFL, Dolphins, Giants, Broncos, alleges racist hiring policies - ProFootballTalk (nbcsports.com)

Flores will likely never get another job, but you can't blame him for being pissed.

His first year with the Dolphins the FO was trying to tank as badly as any team ever. They traded their starting LT (Tunsil), starting WR (Stills), starting DB (Minkah Fitzpatrick), and #2 RB (Drake) right before or during the season for future picks. Then Flores wins 5 of his last 9 after losing their first 7 and do too well to draft Joe Burrow.

Picking 5th in 2020, Flores wants Herbert, but the owner seemed to overrule him for Tua (probably because of the regional SEC connection). The Dolphins still go 10-6.

In 2021, the Dolphins beat the Pats to open the season and then Tua gets injured in the second game and misses 4 of the next 7 games (and appears dinged up in the games he plays). The Dolphins go 1-6. Then they go 7-1 to end the year.

He gets fired because "he doesn't get along with Tua." Anyone looking at what he did in the 3 years would say he overachieved with what he was given. If you take out the first 7 games of his first year (when the Dolphins was trading off good players as fast as they could to get the #1 pick), he was 24-18 and in 4 of those losses he was starting Jacoby Brissett due to injury.

Gruden and him would be a pretty odd couple to f over the NFL, but those two lawsuits could do a lot of damage.

Exactly.

We are still talking about a bunch of white, rich old dudes who own this league. That what Flores is alleging would end up being true is hardly going out on a limb.

To this day, the Rooney Rule just reeks of complete bullshit, smoke and mirrors.

@packerboi posted:

It gets better..

The suit makes explosive allegations about the Dolphins, his former employer. Flores says that Dolphins owner Stephen Ross offered to pay him an extra $100,000 per loss during the 2019 season, as Ross wanted the Dolphins to lose enough games to secure the first overall pick in the 2020 NFL draft. (Although the Dolphins were widely perceived to be tanking early that season, they improved in the second half of the year and ended up with the fifth overall pick.)

Flores also alleges that Ross tried to get him to recruit β€œa prominent quarterback” who was under contract to another team, in violation of league tampering rules. Flores says he refused.

Brian Flores sues NFL, Dolphins, Giants, Broncos, alleges racist hiring policies - ProFootballTalk (nbcsports.com)

If this is true it is a scandal that will get the feds involved.

However, if it cannot be proven then the guy made it up and his NFL career is over.

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Flores will likely never get another job, but you can't blame him for being pissed.

His first year with the Dolphins the FO was trying to tank as badly as any team ever. They traded their starting LT (Tunsil), starting WR (Stills), starting DB (Minkah Fitzpatrick), and #2 RB (Drake) right before or during the season for future picks. Then Flores wins 5 of his last 9 after losing their first 7 and do too well to draft Joe Burrow.

Picking 5th in 2020, Flores wants Herbert, but the owner seemed to overrule him for Tua (probably because of the regional SEC connection). The Dolphins still go 10-6.

In 2021, the Dolphins beat the Pats to open the season and then Tua gets injured in the second game and misses 4 of the next 7 games (and appears dinged up in the games he plays). The Dolphins go 1-6. Then they go 7-1 to end the year.

He gets fired because "he doesn't get along with Tua." Anyone looking at what he did in the 3 years would say he overachieved with what he was given. If you take out the first 7 games of his first year (when the Dolphins was trading off good players as fast as they could to get the #1 pick), he was 24-18 and in 4 of those losses he was starting Jacoby Brissett due to injury.

If I was a team in search of a legit head coach, he would have been my first call.  What he did with what he was given was incredible.  I'd still give him a shot even after this lawsuit, if he still wanted to coach.  The guy can coach.  If he doesn't want to coach in the NFL anymore because of what he went through, I wouldn't blame him.  That's bullshit.

Wow.  I mean I knew Flores got screwed in Miami some how but wow.  My guess is that Flores has enough receipts to push this to discovery.  Depositions are going to be interesting.  But the league deserves this. 

The Ross stuff is whole other issue.  That may involve the feds because you have an owner that is paying coaches to lose games.  That has to be a federal crime. 

@CUPackFan posted:

Wow.  I mean I knew Flores got screwed in Miami some how but wow.  My guess is that Flores has enough receipts to push this to discovery.  Depositions are going to be interesting.  But the league deserves this.

The Ross stuff is whole other issue.  That may involve the feds because you have an owner that is paying coaches to lose games.  That has to be a federal crime.

Vegas won't be happy.

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