Credit to Bvan for posting this but figured this warranted it's own thread:
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Unbelievable to me that there are people still claiming it's a clean hit.
michiganjoe posted:Unbelievable to me that there are people still claiming it's a clean hit.
I just talked to one on facebook
People claiming it's a clean hit are paid to get you to talk about them claiming it was a clean hit.
michiganjoe posted:Unbelievable to me that there are people still claiming it's a clean hit.
First offense? If so that's what can be expected.
Certainly Travathan isn't the only guy in recent history to lead with the crown of his helmet to hit a guy, but the thing that made this one particularly cheap is that Adams was already held up by other guys and wasn't going anywhere. He couldn't do anything to defend himself against what was coming. I really don't know what Travathan was thinking when he did that, but it sure looked cheap and dirty.
I think the only time they won't call a crown of the helmet type hit nowadays is if it's against a runner who is in the open field and can at least move or dive to defend himself. Adams wasn't in the open field, he was completely held up and defenseless. I don't see any reason at all why someone would think that was clean.
Good. He should have been tossed right away.
A pity the NFL cannot afford to have a designated official monitoring such conduct via video somewhere.
Guess that is only possible with leagues that have so much more revenue, like the NHL or the Big 12.
The reason he's gotta sit is because he had zero respect for another football player. He isn't Brandon Meriweather. Unless he is.
Better to make him learn and understand now before he comes another Vontez Burfect.
fightphoe93 posted:Certainly Travathan isn't the only guy in recent history to lead with the crown of his helmet to hit a guy, but the thing that made this one particularly cheap is that Adams was already held up by other guys and wasn't going anywhere.
I think what made it particularly cheap is that he lowered his helmet to direct it head on into 17's face. Like you said, he was a sitting duck- not a moving target- and he knew exactly where his hit was going to land. I'm still amazed he's only in the concussion protocol. His jaw should be shattered if not worse damage.
Packers of the 80's could have used that lamp post--might have made the series more even then.
this got me thinking about an idea I've had before, wondering what others think.
what if there were a rule for exactly these type of situations, where a player is taken out via illegal means, that says the person that delivers such a blow doesn't see the field until the injured player is able to play again? you knock a guy out with a head shot, you're out until he can play again. and even potentially, you end a guy's career, yours is over too.
I think that may get the attention of some of these morons. if you can't show any respect for another player why should you be able to continue your career while they remain hospitalized? to me, it's fairly obvious when these things are fairly deliberate and when they are accidental, and it only applies when it's obvious.
It's still very subjective. Hard to rule intent, no matter what we saw on video. Even a lot if the GB players were stopping short of saying travathon intended to injure Adams. I think in the least it was careless and reckless and at worst malicious. He needs to pay either way but the exact amount entails a lot of interpretation.
I see that too. I heard Morgan Burnett on the radio on the way home from the game and he kept repeating "things happen so fast out there" in defense of trevathan. but if such a rule were in place, would trevathan have attempted the same style of tackle? I like to think he would have come in less like a missile.
A lot of these guys are dimwits. Jahri Evans is not one of them.
Leading with your helmet is a deliberate act.
I hope we take his knees out next game.
Sorry, Timmy!, but I don't want the Packers to gain a reputation as a team that deliberately tries to injure other players.
No need for a Packer to take him out, Thursday night one poster here recommended someone in GB go Chris Kyle on him and another wanted to fly up to GB and go Gillooly on his knees.
Just keep beatin' the Bears' asses twice (and sometimes three times) a year!
hmmm, maybe the idea will catch on. from a PFT comment on trevathan's appeal hearing:
They should review the hit, and say “Sorry, but we seem to have messed up. It should have been 4 games, not just two… In fact, we would like to suspend you until Adams can return to play… as long as he is out, you are out… unpaid, too… That should send a message about these types of hits…”
Derrick Brooks is the hearing officer and I'll be really surprised if he's granted any relief.
Reduced to one game. Disagree strongly with the decision.
The next time the NFLPA and its director Mr. Smith spout platitudes about player safety, I hope someone brings up their support for Travathan.
Charles Woodson sent a tweet out early this am that Brooks doesn't suspend players. I love that Charles still doesn't have time for anyone's bull****.
What a joke. Travathan launched himself with his head down and knew he was going in high. So much for player safety. NFL needs a targeting rule -- but more importantly, it needs someone with the cajones to enforce a tough penalty.
So Trevathan appeals his suspension of two games and gets it reduced to one game. We'll see how Devante Adams comes back from this hit. I think Trevathan should be suspended for at least the amount of time Adams is out recovering from the hit and for all the time he is in the concussion protocol.
One game on appeal makes some sense for a guy with no history or reputation for dirty hits.
Yup.... here's the thing. They reduced it down to 1. That's fine. I have no problem with that. This is the test for Trevathan now.
He does that crap again & he's getting not 4 but maybe 6 or 8 game suspension.
This ain't Ronnie Lott's NFL anymore, better get used to it.
Jon Gruden: I thought Danny Trevathan made a great play
Leading with the crown of the helmet isn't a great play, Jon.
Fandame posted:What a joke. Travathan launched himself with his head down and knew he was going in high. So much for player safety. NFL needs a targeting rule -- but more importantly, it needs someone with the cajones to enforce a tough penalty.
Is 100k joke to you? That is what this is costing him as a first time offender.
i also want to see this guy burn, but..... it is his first offence.
i saw what you saw. He launched himself into a defenseless player. But it is still offense number one for him.
me? I am just happy that Adams seems to be active and healthy right now.
fate will take care of Travathan.
next week or after, fate will punish him.
That's a lot of faith in fate.
So a former LB from the 90's TB teams reduced another LB's suspension? I'm shocked.
GrainBelt66 posted:Fandame posted:What a joke. Travathan launched himself with his head down and knew he was going in high. So much for player safety. NFL needs a targeting rule -- but more importantly, it needs someone with the cajones to enforce a tough penalty.
Is 100k joke to you? That is what this is costing him as a first time offender.
i also want to see this guy burn, but..... it is his first offence.
i saw what you saw. He launched himself into a defenseless player. But it is still offense number one for him.
me? I am just happy that Adams seems to be active and healthy right now.
fate will take care of Travathan.
next week or after, fate will punish him.
No, $100k is not a joke to me but remember that Travathan signed a four-year, $28m contract with a $5m signing bonus and has a $2m base salary this year. A $100k hit to his pocketbook isn't exactly going to have him searching the couch cushions for change.
Yes, Trevathan's a first-time offender. But that first time of him doing something so obvious a foul could have been the last time Adams stepped on the field -- or worse. I wasn't overly happy with just two games, but I could see it as okay for a first-time offender. But one game? Too light for that egregious an offense to a totally defenseless player.
This is exactly why teams need to dole out justice on the field.
The very next play should have been a run to his side of the field and have the leading G/T or FB go for the knees.
If that doesn't work, the very next play should have a TE hitting him from the blind side.